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Upcoming 2016 President Election; Upcoming 2016
Topic Started: Aug 3 2014, 06:03 PM (2,748 Views)
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The news is already getting fired up on the upcoming 2016 President election in November of 2016! and almost everybody wants Hillary Clinton to make a run for the white house, mainly because she's a Democrat and nobody wants to see a Republican for President again, and who else will be running to the white house next year? (bullshit) (stupid)
"That Was So F**king Extreme!" -Harold & Kumar Go To White Castel.
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Candidates spent a LOT of time in western PA in the last two elections. We had that girl that claimed that she had been attacked for supporting John McCain, but that hoax settled down pretty quickly.

A friend worked a Trump rally where a protester made it into a venue. Someone making it into the venue is always a crisis, but you didn't really have to worry so much about a bunch of guys all gaining up on one person like that. If some Trump supporters hadn't stepped in to break it up, he might have been hurt before the police could get to him.

I want to balance this out with a complaint about Democrat rallies this year, but my brain is refusing to think of something that isn't people peeing places that they are not supposed to.
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Bernie's diehard supporters almost make me ashamed to have supported him. (I would've voted for him in the primaries, but I'm registered independent and Florida is a closed primary state.) Figures that a lot of them wound up going over to Trump simply because they hated Hillary more.

As for Hillary, I'm gonna say "vote for the lizard, not the Grand Wizard." As far as I'm concerned, both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are crooks. Hillary's foibles have been talked about all year, but Trump matches her beat-for-beat in his long history of shady and morally bankrupt business dealings. Between trying to get an old lady in Atlantic City evicted from her home so he could build a parking lot for limousines, trying to do the same to a Scottish farmer whose home apparently "ruined the view" at his golf course (that man, for the record, wound up becoming a modern folk hero of sorts in Scotland for his fight with Trump), and everything involving Trump University, I'm of the firm opinion that Trump is at least as crooked as Hillary -- and I'm probably forgetting some stuff. The difference is that Hillary hasn't emboldened the extremists on the far-left the way that Trump has done to the far-right, and she doesn't openly admire authoritarians like Putin. And since I live in Florida, I have extra reason not to vote third-party, since I remember what happened with Nader in 2000. I'm gonna vote for Hillary, even if I have to hold my nose on the way to the polls.

And if her health really is failing like they say, or if she has to step down due to scandal, then that just means we'll be getting President Tim Kaine. Which I definitely approve of. Trump, meanwhile, has the ultimate insurance against anybody trying to assassinate or impeach him: President Mike Pence.
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Sep 16 2016, 01:03 AM
And if her health really is failing like they say, or if she has to step down due to scandal, then that just means we'll be getting President Tim Kaine. Which I definitely approve of. Trump, meanwhile, has the ultimate insurance against anybody trying to assassinate or impeach him: President Mike Pence.
As someone who had Pneumonia, it absolutely is. Her collapsing getting into that Van isn't a symptom, not to mention there isn't such a thing as "non-contagious pneumonia" since it's caused by bacteria. And lol. To be fair, President Kaine is a horrifying thought. I think he and Trump's VP actually have a lot of similar stances on things. I know their abortion one is identical. So yeah, not a lesser evil there.

As for who's the bigger criminal, Trump isn't responsible for any deaths Benghazi-style, so I think Hillary wins that by default (there's also her emails, where the verdict is a see through cover up by a corrupt presidency if there ever was one) Though what makes me cringe most about this corruption isn't even the corruption, but how blatantly stupid and incompetent it is. We can't even trust Hillary to keep herself out of jail, but because we're unlucky enough to have it be Hillary vs. Trump (though you can basically take your pick of all the Republican candidates and get the same result), we have to trust her to keep the country running smoothly. Of course, there's also the things of social policy, economic policy, immigration policy, foreign diplomacy, etc. where Hillary easily wins over Trump on the grounds of not being Trump.

Ugh. I hate our options so much.
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Puppy, just because there's no evidence she killed her aunt doesn't make her dating material.


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Trump probably indirectly killed a lot of people through funding drug trafficking and the mafia. I typed this thinking that it would make things better, but I am realizing now that it would be the opposite of reassuring.
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For the first time since I became of voting age, I won't be voting this election. I am so disappointed in my country that they have not only allowed, but encouraged, a spoiled, egotistical buffoon lacking any kind of qualification to make it this far into an election process in which his very presence has rendered it a farce, or a woman who, while qualified, is an unapologetic, bald-faced liar who will always put her own personal self-interests before her sworn office.

Regardless of who wins, we are well and truly fucked. I don't want that kind of shame on my shoulders.
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Hillary is totally wiping the floor with Trump. (lol) Of course, that seems to be a rather easy task because I'm honestly a better speaker (and more coherent) than he is. He's just been rambling on and on and saying rather stupid shit. He's trying to act like he'll be the savior of minorities all the while going on about how it's the DEMOCRATS who "ruined" minority communities and how we need "stop and frisk" laws/procedures in place. Uh. Hillary IS sort of pandering when it comes to some things but I'd honestly rather deal with some pandering than deal with someone who is even more inconsistent, moronic, and temperamental.
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"The cyber" is what completely destroyed me. I think Donald Trump is too fundamentally uninformed to be successful in a debate setting. He messes up on facts that he should have spent a week having drilled into him. He missed easy openings to go after Clinton over Bengazi and the e-mails. He also failed to directly say that he is not racist or that he does not say offensive things about women. When the moderator calls you racist, you need to lead with a denial of being racist. I can't.

I'm not going to vote for him no matter how he does in the debates, but it offends me that he wasn't better prepared. How do you not have an answer prepared for some of this stuff? Or at least remember not to bring up Rosie O'Donnell or fat people?
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Didn't he bring up larger people several times? (lol) He even threw in a random "400 pound guy sitting behind his computer" comment.
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I heard the one about the 400 pound guy. He completely dodged saying anything about judging people on their appearances by claiming that Hillary Clinton was being mean to him.

Apparently, he controlled himself and didn't say something about Bill Clinton cheating. His campaign manager said something on Fox that I think implies that he was supposed to do that if she questioned his comments about women. I cannot believe that we live in a world where that can be considered a reasonable response to the (true) accusations that she was making.
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YES! I'm SO fucking sick of people using the Lewinsky scandal as an excuse to bash Hillary. I'm not one to really throw this term around (mainly because it is often misused) but that's seriously the most in-your-face example of Victim-Blaming that I can think of. I've seen that sort of thing from so many Trump supporters and it's one of the more disgusting things about this election. I've told numerous people, "Next time your girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever cheats on you, I don't want to see you bitch. I'll just tell you that you have no business being a boss of any kind of business. Now...do you SEE how revolting it is to use that against Hillary? "

It's funny that Trump rambled about the ads of Hillary's featuring Trump's comments about women. Sorry but those were HIS words, in HIS voice. Editing didn't even work bigtime wonders for those ads when those are simply the things he said. (un)
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I wish I cooked some popcorn for that debate, because that was entertaining. I was worried for a few minutes when Trump seemed to be keeping his cool early on, but then he got to the self-promotion, and the Trump we all remember, the one who hadn't been focused-grouped into being an actual contender and kept on his handlers' short leash, came out and just kept digging himself deeper. The 400-pound guy on his bed. The laughable sorry-not-sorry attempt to backtrack on his birther remarks. The fact that, of all the things he denied ever saying, his racist and sexist remarks weren't among them. The fact that he had several openings to pounce on Clinton for the emails and didn't. For bonus points, since my computer sits right beneath my television, I was able to watch the debate side-by-side with Wired's live-tweet of a group of fact-checkers just picking him apart.

Best part was definitely "the cyber". One of the fact-checkers, once internet security came up, said to take a drink the moment he said those words. Sure enough, I had my half-full metal water bottle next to me, and I was chugging it down.

I heard Roger Ailes coached him for this debate. Given how Ailes was drummed out of Fox News in disgrace for sexual harassment, why am I not surprised?
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You know what's mind boggling? I've been reading many posts on Facebook and elsewhere. Here's what I've gathered from the more active ones.


Pro-Hillary post by a diehard liberal: 58 comments. 35 in favor of Trump. 8 non-voters or third-party voters. 7 Sanders supporters who jumped onto the Trump train. 8 in favor of Hillary.

Anti-Hillary post by a Trump supporter: 89 comments. 58 in favor of Trump. 9 non-voters or third party voters. 7 Sanders supporters who jumped onto the Trump train. 15 in favor of Hillary.

Rather neutral post: 43 comments. 30 in favor of Trump. 3 non-voters/third-party voters. 2 Sanders supporters who jumped onto the Trump train. 8 in favor of Hillary.


No wonder other countries are laughing at us.
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It's funny that Trump rambled about the ads of Hillary's featuring Trump's comments about women. Sorry but those were HIS words, in HIS voice. Editing didn't even work bigtime wonders for those ads when those are simply the things he said. (un)
That ad guts me. I think it is one of the artifacts from this election that people are going to be studying in history classes fifty years from now.

I think the one line from the debates that is going to haunt Trump is the comment about the loan his father gave him not being a lot of money. I think Clinton's campaign can put together a very damning add from debate footage presenting him as being too rich to relate to the rest of the country.
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Sep 27 2016, 04:40 AM
I think the one line from the debates that is going to haunt Trump is the comment about the loan his father gave him not being a lot of money. I think Clinton's campaign can put together a very damning add from debate footage presenting him as being too rich to relate to the rest of the country.
That was the moment when it all started going wrong. Hillary describes her middle-class upbringing and how her father worked for his money as a professional, while Donald makes himself out to be Mitt Romney 2.0.
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Sep 27 2016, 01:59 AM
Hillary is totally wiping the floor with Trump.
I actually watched that lol. I died every time she would laugh and smile when he would talk.

I honestly still believe he is a plant, just to make sure she wins the election. Everyone who is voting for him is being trolled by him.
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Trump later said that the attack he didn't bring up because Chelsea was in the audience was to bring up Bill Clinton's adultery. I wish he did, if only so I could witness the raging hypocrisy of a man who broke up with his last two wives under fraught circumstances attacking a woman for her husband's philandering.

It was probably best for his campaign that he not mention it at all, but how he went about it was the worst of both worlds: it was not only an awful line, but he waited until after the debate to use it when Hillary wasn't there to pounce on him.
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I woke up to a large Trump/Pence flyer on my front door. *shrieks*
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I was going to force myself to watch tonight's debate, but Joe Biden just made me cry so I feel like I have had all the politics I can deal with today.
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Just when I think I can't hate this election more, the VPs make me hate them even more than I already did. I didn't know it was possible for me to have such a strong hatred towards every candidate and running mate. I also never thought I'd see a VP debate be between two Republicans (Yeah, I know Kaine is officially a democrat, but he might as well be one of those loony republicans that you think are stereotypical caricatures... but nope, they aren't)
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We're so fucked.
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