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Season One
Topic Started: Nov 4 2015, 12:30 AM (664 Views)
JethroClemson
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I checked XOD, and the first episode is up. I'll see it when I have the time.
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Neurotic Chainsaw
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Just finished this. I don't see anything wrong with it. Then again, I love Army of Darkness. I didn't see the point in the sex scene at the beginning, as none of the Evil Deads had sex scenes in them. Then I remembered. This is a Starz show. Starz always tries to be as dirty as possible with their stuff.
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The sex scene is what made that four minute preview not sit right with me, as well as the much more slapsticky dancing stuff. I was like, "That's not Ash, that's just Bruce Campbell being Bruce Campbell." Nothing wrong with that, but in the context of this film series, it just didn't fit for me.

I do think it got better after those awkward first four minutes, but I also still think it could use some improvement. Ash stomping the piss out of deadites is always fun to see, and it works fine in a 90-minute movie, but this is a ten-episode season. My concern is that it's going to get old really fast, and I'm a bit worried that they're not going to be able to sustain interest past the action/splat scenes for one season, let alone the second (for which it was approved before the first episode even aired).

I'll stick with it, obviously -- it's Bruce, after all -- but my hopes aren't exactly high for the long run.
Edited by Lon Of The Dead, Nov 4 2015, 03:03 AM.
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Neurotic Chainsaw
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Bruce and Ash are basically the same guy... Has it not always been that way?
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Not exactly, no. Ash in the first ED flick was a coward, plain and simple. That he was the last man standing had less to do with prowess than the fact that the deadites happened to get to him last. So when he puts up a fight at the end, it's not because he found the inner strength and courage to do so, but because it was a matter of plain old desperate necessity. If he could have beat feet and escaped, he would have. He didn't CHOOSE to fight.

In the second ED flick -- more a remake than a sequel -- Ash is presented as more a regular joe who happens to find himself in an extraordinary situation. The big difference being that in this flick, he does choose to fight. He makes the conscious decision that he's had enough of these evil fuckers and damn it, he's going to kill 'em.

Only in AoD is he a brash, arrogant, smart-ass wannabe lothario. When you watch the first three ED flicks in a row, you'll see it's actually jarring how different he is from the last movie. While the violence in ED2 was tinted with splat-stick comedy and black humor, Ash himself was a serious character. And now here he is all of a sudden, all loud-mouthed and brash and talking shit and being a smart-ass? When did this change occur?

One thing to remember, though, is that the first two ED flicks weren't hugely successful. They received critical acclaim, yes, but they didn't draw big box office. They were gory independent films with no name actors and no real advertising budgets, and received limited theatrical releases. Realistically, if not for the advent of home video where the ED flicks were able to find a real audience, these two films would probably have been quickly forgotten the instant they ended their brief theatrical runs.

But Army of Darkness, because it was more comedic, less horror-intensive and far more mass audience-friendly, was given a much wider release. It wasn't a blockbuster by any means but because it was more accessible to the general audience, it was more financially successful than the first two. Because more people saw it, it was this AoD version of Ash that found its way into pop culture, despite it being a drastic difference from the first two versions. As a matter of fact, when AoD was first released, the majority of the audience had no idea it was the third film in a series because they'd never heard of the first two Evil Dead flicks, much less seen them.

So in answer to your question -- No, Bruce and Ash have not always been the same guy. Before AoD Cambpell had appeared in a wide range of roles, including a number of straight dramatic roles. But AoD Ash proved so popular that he quickly found himself typecast. In fact, if you look at all the roles he's appeared in since Army of Darkness, you'll notice that the majority of them are just riffs on that character. Even in his most (arguably) successful project, the USA show Burn Notice, his character was really just a more competent and bad-ass version of AoD Ash. Matt Nix, who created the series, once said the reason he hired Cambpell was because he was a fan of Army of Darkness and wanted Ash on his show. Not Bruce Cambpell, the versatile character actor -- ASH, FROM ARMY OF DARKNESS.

This is one of the reasons I wasn't looking forward to this Ash vs Evil Dead show. Cambpell really is a very capable actor, and it kind of saddens me that he's having to once again fall back on this franchise and that character. I'm sure he's not complaining -- dude's gotta make a living, can't fault him for that -- but you've gotta think that while he seems to be having fun with it, he's gotta be tired of playing this character (or variations of him) by now.
Edited by Lon Of The Dead, Nov 4 2015, 04:25 AM.
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Episode 2 definitely improved the tone some and scaled back the humor. The action sequences flowed better as well.
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Yeah, I didn't LOVE the pilot, but I enjoyed it thoroughly. It was kind of annoying. The deadites annoy me now, to be honest.

And the sex was pointless. Very pointless... And out of place. Evil Dead has never had graphic sex, and Ash has always been kind of a horny prick, but he's never outright done that shit. It just felt... Not Ash.
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I think only being half an hour long works for this. I'm liking the new characters more than I thought I was going to. I didn't love the lullaby bit, but everything worked fairly well. They might be changing the mythology a little, but it hasn't been any changes that really bother me so far.
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I'm happy with how much I'm enjoying this. Episode 2 was great!
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I didn't think episode 2 was as good as the first episode, but I still liked it. I'm not too fond of Kelly (wary)
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Unfortunately, I don't get Starz, so I haven't been able to watch this. Shame, because I liked all the movies.
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It might be worth calling your cable provider. They're constantly offering free trials.
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Episode 3 was decent, not quite as good as the first two imo. I liked the demon, but the color flickering effect on him was annoying as hell.
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That demon was bad-ass looking, but I'm still luke warm on the show so far. As much as I dig Bruce, this show doesn't feel like Evil Dead to me. Sure there's splatter and comedy and Bruce cracking one-liners, but the overall vibe feels generic to me, more like an Evil Dead knock-off.

Also, it seems they've either forgotten or chosen to ignore (more likely) two major things from Army of Darkness. First, at the end of that flick, Ash is returned to his own time with a fully functioning metallic hand that they've yet to make any kind of reference to. And second -- they have Ash seeking help in translating the book to find a spell to send the Deadites back to hell, but he already knows that spell.

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I agree, it does feel somewhat by the numbers. I think they just left out anything directly connected with AOD. Legal issues wouldn't prevent them from showing Ash with a hand, but maybe it was an all or nothing approach.
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I agree, it does feel somewhat by the numbers. I think they just left out anything directly connected with AOD. Legal issues wouldn't prevent them from showing Ash with a hand, but maybe it was an all or nothing approach.
Legally, the best (and realistically only) approach is to write the show as though Army of Darkness does not exist. Even showing Ash with the hand could open them up to a challenge from the people that own the rights to Army of Darkness, which would seriously impact the way the show is made. It's possible that they got permission for something during the tons of meetings that they had with the people that own the rights, but it didn't sound like those were all that successful. No lawyer is going to let them, especially if they're going to be in negotiations for as long as the show is on.
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Of the shows that I'm watching right now, this is the one that I enjoy watching the most. It's consistent. Kelly is my least favorite of the group, but she's growing on me. I like Pablo and Amanda quite a bit, and Lucy Lawless has finally started having scenes.

Without intending to, I apparently crank out enough gifs for this show to be one of the main blogs for it on tumblr.
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I agree, it does feel somewhat by the numbers. I think they just left out anything directly connected with AOD. Legal issues wouldn't prevent them from showing Ash with a hand, but maybe it was an all or nothing approach.
Legally, the best (and realistically only) approach is to write the show as though Army of Darkness does not exist. Even showing Ash with the hand could open them up to a challenge from the people that own the rights to Army of Darkness, which would seriously impact the way the show is made. It's possible that they got permission for something during the tons of meetings that they had with the people that own the rights, but it didn't sound like those were all that successful. No lawyer is going to let them, especially if they're going to be in negotiations for as long as the show is on.
That's what I figured. It doesn't alter the show negatively for me, it's definitely in my current top shows as well.
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I didn't care for the first episode, to be quite honest, but it really is growing on me. i was just skeptical about it at first.
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One thing that I rather like about the show is that they actually reference the comics. Stuff in the comics still aren't in the show's canon like Army of Darkness, but there are little things that have subtly and vaguely carried over.
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