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Split (2017)
Topic Started: Jul 29 2016, 05:02 PM (310 Views)
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A man (James McAvoy) who has multiple personality disorder holds three teenage girls captive.
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(goo) I really want to see this
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This actually looks really good. Seems like it'll be a bit watered down when it comes to violence and whatnot but that's okay. It doesn't really need to be all that violent. I'm hoping at least eight or nine of the personalities are given a lot to do.
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Great trailer. Shyamalan should just stick to horror for the rest of his career, when he veers off the path we get shit like After Earth.
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I am very excited about this one. The trailer started playing between videos on YouTube, and I stopped in the middle of a plank and watched until I fell over.
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I'm glad he's "back" so to speak. If this is great then that means he's released two VERY satisfying (I like The Visit a lot) movies in a row. Hopefully now people won't bash him as much. It does seem like his worst films are his ones that don't connect to the genre in any way but I haven't bothered with them. Signs, The Sixth Sense and ESPECIALLY Unbreakable were really good. The Visit was really good. I'm one of the few who really enjoyed The Happening. Lady In The Water sucked and I still need to quit being lazy and go watch The Visit.
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People on Facebook are boycotting this, bashing it, and (successfully) convincing people to protest at theaters. Why? Because it paints mental illness as a "bad thing." I made a lengthy post on Facebook about it. Lol.

"So people are already getting offended and being crybabies about the upcoming movie Split (the one about the guy with 23 personalities who abducts a couple of girls). They're whining because it makes mental illness look bad. I'm sorry but no. If you let a FICTIONAL MOVIE dictate your thoughts of mental illness, maybe you're the one who needs help, seriously. It's just a movie. Period. If you're offended by THAT then I'd hate to see the kind of panic you'd be thrown into if you watched movies from before the 2000s, haha.

I'm very much against censorship. If I don't like something, tough shit - the maker still has the right to create what they want to create as long as it's within legal boundaries. If you're for the censorship for films, books, songs, and so on just because you're offended, I have very little respect for you, you have no business calling yourself an artist, and you're probably not as liberal as you think you are.

the people complaining are doing so because the film doesn't appear to be glorifying it as a lovely, happy, sunshiney thing and they feel that the film itself will make people hate the mentally ill lol. That's my issue with the whining.

As someone who deals with quite a few mental/emotional 'issues' I'm honesty more offended when writers and filmmakers try to paint them as things that can pretty much be cured overnight (but as bothered as I may be, I refuse to try to have the film yanked out of theaters and the careers of the creators destroyed because of my 'hurt feelings', lol).

There's also the fact that the trailer focused a lot on an identity known as "The Beast" and given what was shown, I honestly think the "identities" aspect is an enormous red herring and that the twist is going to be that the man is actually possessed by different spirits and/or demonic entities. If that's the case (or if it turns out that The Beast is the only evil one while the other identities are totally harmless), then the whining about this movie has no leg to stand on whatsoever.

I wonder if these people would've complained about Identity back in 2003 as well? I remember when that came out and I don't recall hearing anyone getting offended. In fact, it was seen by many as a total masterpiece."
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I'm fighting with someone about that on imdb right now. They're being a jerk and claiming that the people disagreeing with them aren't mentally ill, though. That's mostly what I took offense to.

I want to see it, and I have been diagnosed with a dissociative disorder. I wasn't diagnosed as a kid, which is when I really suffered. I think it would be a good thing if this movie got people talking about that spectrum of disorders.
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I think it'd also be really nice if each personality had their own disorder as well. It'd help separate them from each other.

I've been diagnosed with numerous things. I've already been told that I "don't know what I'm talking about" when it comes to mental illness (by the people protesting this film) despite those diagnoses and the fact that I developed more time during high school to learning about illnesses/disorders than I did literature/filmmaking, lol. Spending time in a 'facility' and having multiple friends and relatives with even bigger issues than mine = also good for learning and seeing certain behaviors firsthand as well. So yeah, I feel you. Sorry but no...me not being offended by this movie does NOT mean I'm clueless and/or ignorant when it comes to these things. (lol)
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Yeah, if the twist is what you say it is, Jon, then these claims are invalid. They're invalid regardless, because, as you said, it's a movie and you can't take everything a movie presents to you to heart, if any of it. Unless it's a documentary, but even then you have to check up on the facts. I'm sure these people are the same people who saw the movie Pay It Forward and thought to themselves, "I'm going to live my life like that from now on," and haven't done much else other than to continue to complain and nitpick about things that make them uncomfortable; especially when having to explain anything to their children. I wonder how they feel about the movie Prisoners since that has a mentally ill antagonist, if I remember correctly. Mental illness isn't great and a lot of people are too embarrassed to discuss it. And when it seems like they do want to talk about it's almost the David and Lisa approach or Manic-Pixie Girl idea that it's not a mental illness, just a cute AF quirk that will eventually lead to love and happiness and blah blah blah (blah) Everyone's mentally ill, as far as I'm concerned, but don't condemn a movie that you haven't even seen yet. That doesn't make sense. As they said though, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Man, did writing this make me exhausted.
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It might be overly optimistic of me, but I think that anything that could raise awareness is a good thing when it involves an illness that a lot of people don't think is real. I have been diagnosed with depersonalization disorder and possibly dissociative amnesia (I have seizures, which makes this diagnosis complicated). Both of them don't affect my daily life anymore, but they had a big impact on my life when I was younger. In hindsight, I don't think that any of the people in my life that could have done something about it even knew what those were. I was tested for learning disabilities instead. I don't think that things are much better now than they were when I was a kid. I think in a lot of ways this was a bad thing, but Sybil did make people a lot more aware of the existence of DID.
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I'm really excited for this one. Loved The Visit and McAvoy is just...<3 Looks like a lot of fun.
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I'm so surprised by how respectful this was when it came to the subject matter. It's certainly not exploitation by any means and there's not too much of a focus on the bad things happening to the girls. It's mostly about relationships and escape attempts and how the three girls handle the situation in totally different ways. I was surprised that I really liked all three girls though two of them kind of fell into the background after a while.

Betty was fantastic in this and aside from James, she was the best part of the film. She had some really good lines and I was surprised that her character was as witty as she was. It was also nice that she served the purpose of spelling things out for the audience without it being an obvious exposition dump. It all felt natural. All of the performances were good.

I was frustrated that they kept going on about 23 personalities when we only ended up seeing six or so. I wonder what the rest were like? The ending was also a bit too far fetched and I could see why some people may get a mixed message from it. I was expecting some grand twist but surprisingly, there wasn't one. We got a few story surprises here and there but it was more of a slow unraveling than a sudden shock. Once characters started dying, it happened WAY too quickly.

It did slow down a bit too much from time to time but I, unlike some people in the theater who actually left (damn teens lol), wasn't bored. I'm sure the bluray will have a special feature that shows the video diaries of all of the personalities. I really don't know which one is my favorite. I know Hedwig was the most adorable but Patricia and Barry were both VERY intriguing and I loved their motives. I wasn't as intimidated by Dennis as the makers of this probably hoped for.

The score was also great and there's a nice little tacked on surprise that feels like forced fanservice but I didn't mind. I thought it was cute.

6.5/10+ quality, 7/10 entertainment.
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I really like this movie. M. Night definitely is earning points again with me. Especially
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And as Jon already commented on, I too am surprised by how respectful this movie is toward DID. Especially with the character of Dr. Karen Fletcher. Then again I don't have much experience with that disorder to know if I'm wrong. I could see me watching this again in a theater sometime in the near future. Or at least when it hits the dollar theater.
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I think they had Kevin have 23 personalities even though we don't see all of them to help distinguish him from the average person with DID, who would mostly have less.

I liked it. I only really like James McAvoy in some roles, and this is definitely one of them. I did not think he was capable of transforming himself to this extent. Anya Taylor-Joy is a really wonderful actress. I'm already preparing myself for when she leaves horror to go get an Oscar. I was also squeeing at the end. I do think that Shyamalan uses a lot of the same tricks and that this didn't always make the best use of them.

Is it respectful? Ehhh... It had really good intentions, which matters to me more. It has enough flaws that I'm not going to go defend it in spaces that I hang out at that are focused on mental health, but I also spend my time with reasonable people that have understandable complaints. Some of the complaints I've heard about I actually find pretty offensive and bother me way more than anything in the movie, which mostly just went a little too far in making people with DID sound like X-Men.

There are some things that I liked.
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I also liked that they made sure to clearly show how the character's condition worsened and led to him kidnapping the girls.

It would have been nice if the movie had approached the normal life of someone with a dissociative disorder more. It's fine for the character to be unrealistic, but it would have been nice for them to reference that in the movie. I also wish that we had seen Fletcher use a real technique instead of the
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I think its a good and well made movie but I dod not enjoy it very much. I think I went in with the wrong expectations because I was thinking it would play like The Visit crossed with 10 Cloverfield Lane but got something else entirely. I had to explain to the friends I went with the ending because none of them got it
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I saw it and liked it. Yeah, its portrayal of DID as basically giving the villain superpowers was laughably bad science, and to be honest, without spoiling anything, that wasn't the only area where I found it to be a bit tone-deaf. That said, even if the writing wasn't the greatest, Shyamalan is still a damn good director, and he does a great job here with both the tension and especially the actors. Anya Taylor-Joy is proving to be a great scream queen in the making, but it was James McAvoy who stole the show here. He was like a male version of Tatiana Maslany on Orphan Black with how he was able to move so effortlessly between Kevin's various personalities, always making it clear who was in control even when he was dressed as one of the others. Overall, it's not without its problems, but as just a good old-fashioned horror film, I recommend it.

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