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| Gunman Kills at Least 58 in Mass Shooting in Las Vegas | |
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| MacReadyOrNot | Oct 2 2017, 08:52 PM Post #1 |
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| MacReadyOrNot | Oct 2 2017, 08:55 PM Post #2 |
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This . . . is . . . Wow. My heart goes out to those who were there. All the victims, alive and dead. Their families. Their friends. *heavy sigh* Wow.
Edited by MacReadyOrNot, Oct 2 2017, 08:55 PM.
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| The Shadow | Oct 3 2017, 02:57 AM Post #3 |
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The fact he didn't shoot it out with SWAT. What a bitch. You can open fire from your ivory tower but you can't deal with it when it comes to your doorstep.
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| Vanessa | Oct 3 2017, 04:37 AM Post #4 |
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My best friend in high school was there with her family. My friend injured her shoulder, but everyone was okay. I'm only just now catching up on what happened. I couldn't keep myself from picturing her when watching the news before I heard that they were okay. |
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| Baby Firefly | Oct 3 2017, 06:48 AM Post #5 |
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I have several friends who were in that area and close enough to hear shots. None were injured though. There's one girl no one has been able to get in touch with. I'm hoping she just dropped her phone. I've been arguing with quite a few people about this. I'm sick of all these fucking gun nuts saying that we need assault rifles and that if they had been there they would've used their rifles to take down this monster. PUHLEESE. There were DOZENS of people with guns and literally hundreds of guns on buses and elsewhere. They were all useless. People fail to realize thst this was a bizarre event that would not have been solved by random people pulling out guns and firing blindly. Most people didn't even know exavtly where the shots were coming from. A friend of mine who was in the area was terrified, assuming as it was happening that there were multiple gunmen in at least four different locations. I am just sick of this and I hate that I can honestly say that I know people who witnessed the two worst mass shootings in modern American history and that I know others directly impacted by the Sandy Hook shooting and several others. I kept panicking at work earlier and repeatedly making sure that the emergency exits and fire exits were unlocked at all times. Just in case. I dont want my grandmother leaving the house by herself. Just in case. I feel nervous about my mom being at work in a crowded building dealing with large sums of money, environmental planning, and the health department. Edited by Baby Firefly, Oct 3 2017, 06:50 AM.
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| Lon Of The Dead | Oct 3 2017, 05:46 PM Post #6 |
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"Guns don't kill people, people kill people" is, always has been, and always will be the most inane bit of rationale that has ever existed. Yes, people kill people. But without guns -- which are so ridiculously, scarily available that you can literally walk into a Wal-Mart empty handed and walk back out with a shotgun -- it wouldn't be near as easy, and not near as many people getting killed. Take it from a former infantryman and combat veteran: Guns are for the weak and cowardly, and to insist every American be allowed to purchase, own and/or carry a firearm is akin to saying every American should be allowed their own personal nuclear launch button. Outlawing firearms works. Back in the mid-00s, there was a mass shooting in Australia. Thirty-six people killed. The Aussie prime minister banned guns. How many mass shootings have there been in Australia since? Zero. The second amendment is a primitive law, written during a more primitive time in our nation's history, and it takes a primitive mentality to champion it. Taking away guns doesn't remove a person's intent or desire to kill, but it does take away one of the most easily accessible means to act on that intent or desire. But that's just simple logic, and simple logic isn't a common trait among gun enthusiasts. Any of you who had friends/family there, I hope they're safe. Edited by Lon Of The Dead, Oct 3 2017, 05:49 PM.
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| The Shadow | Oct 3 2017, 06:07 PM Post #7 |
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I think the second amendment should stay, but it needs to be drastically altered. You should by right be allowed to own a handgun. A hunting rifle etc. (a basic class of firearms). We're selling weapons of mass destruction like candy though.. and one could argue someone with skill can tally up mass casualties with a couple handguns and pockets stuffed with clips (and it's happened) but let's make it harder for someone to accomplish 50+ kills than make it easier. |
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| Kevin R. | Oct 4 2017, 01:00 AM Post #8 |
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If now is "not the time" to talk about gun control, then what is? I say this as somebody who owns two guns himself: here in my home state, at least, it is embarrassing how easy it is to get a gun, or a CCW permit. This shooting was practically the Brady Foundation's nightmare vision of gun culture run amok -- a lone nut firing on a crowd of people with an automatic rifle from an elevated vantage point where no "good guys with guns" could shoot back -- and we're still saying that this is "not the time"? The thing about gun control, though, is that while the mass shootings get the headlines, most firearm-related deaths are suicides or petty crime. Bringing back the Assault Weapons Ban would merely be a band-aid on a bigger problem, especially given how many loopholes such laws have. I think Chris Rock had it right. We don't need gun control, we need bullet control. Specifically, background checks for ammunition purchases and a high tax on ammunition, especially of the sort that the guns most commonly used by criminals are chambered in -- i.e. handguns. There are already too many guns to get enough of them off the street to matter... but as former Senator Daniel Patrick Moynahan pointed out when he proposed just such an ammo tax, America only has about a three-year supply of ammunition. The high tax on ammo might give sticker shock to some folks looking to kill themselves or those who pissed them off, and convince them to back out. Gangsters wouldn't be able to spray ammo recklessly in drive-by shootings, because now that costs money. It's a solution that countless old survival horror games like Resident Evil and Silent Hill implemented without even realizing it: restrict the ammo supply, and guns are suddenly a lot less menacing. And for the sake of sport shooters and hunters, you can waive the tax in some instances. For instance, any ammo that's purchased and used at a shooting range won't be taxed (though you cannot bring it out of the range), and those who have a hunting license may have the tax waived on purchases of rifle and shotgun ammo. Law enforcement and private security officers also get to buy all the ammo they want, tax-free, given the needs of their job. You've gotten rid of the main thing that makes guns deadly, and you've done it without taking away anybody's AR-15s. |
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| Vanessa | Oct 4 2017, 03:59 AM Post #9 |
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I really liked that Jason Aldean's guitarist came out and talked about how he used to think that way but was wrong. (Especially because a ton of country artists are prostituting themselves to the NRA and aren't going to say anything.) I think that if someone can't be convinced by this that there isn't much hope for them. Even if they could tell where the shooter was, they would be firing at a hotel full of people. They're not Deadshot. They'd just be adding to the danger and chaos. |
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