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The Burning (1981)
Topic Started: Apr 6 2013, 02:51 AM (1,595 Views)
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A former summer camp caretaker, horribly burned from a prank gone wrong, lurks around an upstate New York summer camp bent on killing the teenagers responsible for his disfigurement.
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My main complaint is that going 37 minutes without a kill was a HUGE mistake.


Ideal Burning;


First 20 minutes is the exact same
Kill a random counselor 25 min in
Kill a random camper 40 minutes in
The rest of the film stays the same, but they kill the main female camper toward the end for shock value


I love the meanstreak (minutes 49-67 when eight people were killed in pretty awesome fashion) but I wish that hadn't been the ONLY part of the film with juicy kills.

Still though...the fact that they went all-out with several of the kills, the setting, and two or three of the characters and Cropsey himself REALLY saved this for me. And the score was great as well. I just wish that the last half of the first act and the ENTIRE second act hadn't been so damn dry and kill-free. With two or three more kills between the 25 and 40 minute mark, this would've been great.

I DO love that the two 'finals' of this were both male since at the time (and even now, to an extent) that was somewhat rare.
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I had gone so long without watching this that I had forgotten that I didn't like it. There isn't enough gore to keep my attention, because I don't like the main characters. The only exceptions are Dave, because he is played by Jason Alexander, and the girl with braces, because she tends to be the one that says what I'm thinking. I can't stand either of the final guys.
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Yeah my thoughts exactly Vanessa. I get that it wanted to "build tension" but the time between the first kill and to the raft scene is just so long and drawn out. Someone could fan-edit this to chop out a good chunk of the long gap but hell, that wouldn't even save this poor movie due to it's uninteresting characters, poor acting, and the long gap.
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Why do people keep going on about bad acting in movies like this? Lol. It could be worse...much, much worse, in that department.

And remember Derek, there was a kill 49 minutes in BEFORE the raft scene but yeah, I get what you mean. Like I said before, we should've gotten at least one kill before the skinnydipping chick. A kill 30 min in (17 min after the first, 19 min. before the third) would've helped a lot, I think.
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Is this still on youtube?
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Probably :P
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I watched the DVD, but stuff that looked full-length came up when I did a video search.

I think my big problem with the movie is that I don't get why so many of the characters are varying degrees of awful people. I don't like rooting against the characters that aren't killing people. I feel like it should be some kind of Slumber Party Massacre-esque parody.
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Well the only one I really rooted against was Glazer lol.
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The two I disliked the most were Todd and Alfred, which isn't a great thing considering their roles in the movie. Todd seemed pretty flippant about having almost killed someone. He brings it up at least twice in the movie, and he doesn't mention feeling bad about it either time.

I also just can't be convinced that someone that peeps on a girl in the shower because her kind-of-boyfriend was mean to them isn't an asshole. No one even seems to really like Glazer.
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I'll never accuse anyone of not liking something just because it's popular to like it, because I can't speak for other people but I thought this was an absolutely great slasher.

First off, it was fun for me to see something I knew absolutely dog dick about and see so many faces I recognized, especially from so far back when. How it all got started made sense, it wasn't exceptional or anything but I think it worked fine for a slasher. I was honestly really only bored at the beginning and once it got going, I really enjoyed all of it. Everybody sucks of Tom Savini and I don't really care one way or another, but I thought the effects and gore in this was pretty solid... and it's at least as old as I am. I've seen much, much worse in much more recent 80's slashers.

I thought the characters were actually pretty well developed, back to what I just say... a lot more than what I typically expect out of an 80s slasher. Granted, they didn't kill them all off but I thought several of them were good and realistic and that exact dynamic is what made is actually seem like a camp would be which I felt really added to what was going on.

They kept Cropsy pretty mysterious, which I figured they would after the initial kill and had him slinking around which is par for the course but it was pretty cool to see him "unmasked," so to speak at the end. I liked the end for the most part, especially when he finally brought the namesake element back into play (I had been expecting more of it) which it then dawned on me what was going on and it's not like I disliked the ending in any way, I just really got to disliking Mark Ratner... because that's who he'll always be to me. I liked Mark Ratner way more anyway.

Also, that poster is freaking great. I'd have to compile the 80s slashers I thought were really great and rewatch them all and kind of analyze but I thought this was really, really good for what it was.
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I'll never accuse anyone of not liking something just because it's popular to like it, because I can't speak for other people but I thought this was an absolutely great slasher.

First off, it was fun for me to see something I knew absolutely dog dick about and see so many faces I recognized, especially from so far back when. How it all got started made sense, it wasn't exceptional or anything but I think it worked fine for a slasher. I was honestly really only bored at the beginning and once it got going, I really enjoyed all of it. Everybody sucks of Tom Savini and I don't really care one way or another, but I thought the effects and gore in this was pretty solid... and it's at least as old as I am. I've seen much, much worse in much more recent 80's slashers.

I thought the characters were actually pretty well developed, back to what I just say... a lot more than what I typically expect out of an 80s slasher. Granted, they didn't kill them all off but I thought several of them were good and realistic and that exact dynamic is what made is actually seem like a camp would be which I felt really added to what was going on.

They kept Cropsy pretty mysterious, which I figured they would after the initial kill and had him slinking around which is par for the course but it was pretty cool to see him "unmasked," so to speak at the end. I liked the end for the most part, especially when he finally brought the namesake element back into play (I had been expecting more of it) which it then dawned on me what was going on and it's not like I disliked the ending in any way, I just really got to disliking Mark Ratner... because that's who he'll always be to me. I liked Mark Ratner way more anyway.

Also, that poster is freaking great. I'd have to compile the 80s slashers I thought were really great and rewatch them all and kind of analyze but I thought this was really, really good for what it was.
Glad you enjoyed it, i love The Burning, i particularly love the Rick Wakeman score in it works really well and of course the infamous raft scene.
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Said scene actually surprised me.

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I'm not really a fan of slashers but this is one of the more enjoyable ones I've seen.
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I found it really enjoyable for what it is.
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Same here. It could've used more individual death scenes though. They might as well have killed off the main female counselor since she...sort of didn't really end up doing anything.
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I'll never accuse anyone of not liking something just because it's popular to like it, because I can't speak for other people but I thought this was an absolutely great slasher.


I am extremely tempted to make a list of everything I disliked about The Burning, but I feel like it would be cruel to put Jon through reading it.
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Well $5 for a Scream Factory release made a year ago is a pretty great deal.
I honestly dont think i would buy this movie for even 5 bucks lol.
Why on earth not? I certainly would buy it for $5.
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I would def buy it for that.

I know there is a bit of a gap between kills, but overall i love this film

Remake imo would be welcome, couple more kills, slightly faster pace, and lets be honest they have remade a lot worse.
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Only seen this once (on YT) and I thought it was pretty good. Could have used a few more kills, but it still holds up


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This is easily one of my top three or four favorite slasher flicks. Properly motivated villain, plenty of teens as knife-bait (or shear-bait, as it were) and one of the classic slasher scenes with the brutal and vicious raft attack. My biggest complaint about this film is the editing at the climax; very choppy, with shots seen earlier being re-used (one hilarious example in particular is the frame of the girl whose throat was slit being matted in to make it appear as though her body is there in the cave, yet you can kind of see the lake scene borders around her LOL).

But I liked that it had a final boy instead of a final girl, and of course there are all the future stars appearing as supporting characters (Jason Alexander, Holly Hunt, Fisher Stevens), not to mention Tom Savini's always-reliable FX gags. Savini said he was hugely disappointed with Cropsy's burn look, because he only had a few days to work on it. Me, I think it works just fine. It may not be 100% realistic, but it's still pretty damned creepy.
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