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Questions Before Buying A Lens; A Brief Discussion ...
Topic Started: Dec 30 2007, 01:30 AM (2,537 Views)
Ming
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Ok , 1 vote for KM85mm ...

Really cannot get over it ... Its always in my mind for very long already , recently it just popped up & ... You guys know that feeling when it calls for you ... :(
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KM85G for me. You have votes to 2 G liao... Headache right? The Sony/KM line now happens to have 2 premium lines of optics compared to other brands...

CZ offers more contrast and higher resolution - these are elements of precision that when added to bokeh, will make it look more defined, something I don't really like... Let's say from what I see from image samples, it looks like the way bokeh's delivered on many of the higher end C/N lenses.

Gs take a little of that precision away as a trade off to make the bokeh look like Gaussian blur. But it is usably sharp, and the color rendition... :wub: :wub: :wub: So I'm pretty much staying on the G-side.

I gotta say, that these large aperture lenses are hard to tame. You have 2G lenses liao, get used to them first and master them before trying to expand your arsenal. :P
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For you, I will vote neither.

You have a good lens at 85mm and 135mm.... the 70-200 SSM, unless you want to shoot below f2.8. :D
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Feb 22 2008, 09:05 PM

Cannot sleep at night........then sleep in the day then.  :sofunny:

That's a good one! :roll: :sofunny:

Ming pls don't :knock: me.


Me I'll go for CZ. :wub:
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Hi Mr Tankm , but it had been said this 85mm is a portrait lens . I do not have any primes thats good for Portraits ... And taking the 70-200mm to use 85mm & 135mm , i have not tried lor ... Frankly i have not used it to shoot anyone else except my wife & kids ... They look great ! Oh how i love my 70-200mm ! :wub:

But now i feel like i wanted to have a portrait lens , like 85mm or 135mm ... Not really a must have now , for i believe i will not use it as often . Its the G thats making me going round & round :coming: ! I seems to have realised the difference of the photos i have taken using that 2 Gs and compared to the rest ...

I also do not know what is the necessary to shoot below f2.8 ... ? :sweat:

I have a choice now ... Its just very very hard to decide ...

>>> Bro docdeng , have you own this piece of CZ already ? Comments all over were CZ are too sharp for portraits . But speedy focus & no zoom creeps sure wins the G ...

I had just missed a Mint Condition Konica Minolta 85mm f1.4 G D at ebay ... supposed to end tomorrow but someone just ended it with BUY NOW , thats the one i wanted to get ... <_< Maybe this is good for me too , so i can have more time to think about it ...
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Feb 23 2008, 06:28 PM
Hi Mr Tankm , but it had been said this 85mm is a portrait lens . I do not have any primes thats good for Portraits ... And taking the 70-200mm to use 85mm & 135mm , i have not tried lor ... Frankly i have not used it to shoot anyone else except my wife & kids ... They look great ! Oh how i love my 70-200mm ! :wub:

But now i feel like i wanted to have a portrait lens , like 85mm or 135mm ... Not really a must have now , for i believe i will not use it as often . Its the G thats making me going round & round  :coming: ! I seems to have realised the difference of the photos i have taken using that 2 Gs and compared to the rest ...

I also do not know what is the necessary to shoot below f2.8 ... ? :sweat:

I have a choice now ... Its just very very hard to decide ...

>>> Bro docdeng , have you own this piece of CZ already ? Comments all over were CZ are too sharp for portraits . But speedy focus & no zoom creeps sure wins the G ...

I had just missed a Mint Condition Konica Minolta 85mm f1.4 G D at ebay ... supposed to end tomorrow but someone just ended it with BUY NOW , thats the one i wanted to get ... <_<  Maybe this is good for me too , so i can have more time to think about it ...

ask choaxangel which portrait lens he use ?

If your minimum f-stop for portrait is greater than f2.8, eg f3.5, f4, f4.5, f5.6 or even f8, then I really believe your 70-200SSM is more up to the task as a portrait lens. The 85 1.4 doesn't guarantee creamy bokeh all the time, you still need to control the background and distant of subject to background to get the creamy background. :)
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Anyway , its just a want ... Not really need ... Cool down a bit , then i should forget about it ... :burp:
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Feb 23 2008, 10:08 PM
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Anyway , its just a want ... Not really need ... Cool down a bit , then i should forget about it ... :burp:

i have been wanting the Minolta 85 G for 1+ year now ... missed out on a few good offers from the local bros.. the ebay prices are simply too horrible at >1.3k at least..so not worth it for me to get from ebay..

Then cool down a bit i also forget about it liao.. i dun shoot portraits too often also.. den if shoot portrait also using tamron 90.. so eventually the urge died off..although the crave still there..haha.. wait till i got more money... :wub: :wub: :wub:

but i think.. if you got the money.. just BBB la.. :lol: :lol:
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Same here but after careFUL evaluation whether to get either the minolta 85mm or cz 85mm, most probably i will stick with my 100mm 2.8 sf and 135mm f2.8 for dedicated portraiture shot and snapshot.
time is hard and it going to get even harder. got to save for raining day, the cz and 85G can wait
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Yes i agree to what Bro Rongren & cjng said here . After a while , the urge for it will slow down but not died yet ba ... :D

I will try to shoot with what i have , especially using the 70-200mm at 85mm & 135mm ... But i think there will be a big difference to achieve the bokeh . I had tried the CZ85mm at Sony gallery yesterday and i was so amazed by it once again ! WOW ! :wub:

100mm f2.8 , mine is macro , shoot model sure very jialat ... I tried it on my wife & kids ... :faint: , too sharp la ... :wacko:
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