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Shaky Hands Problem
Topic Started: Mar 20 2008, 05:04 AM (1,372 Views)
OldFlower
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Ok, first off as a Newbie in this forum, I post my first concern in photography;
I have shaky hands.

This is a problem when shooting in shutter speeds below 1/60. At times, even at 1/60 there's image blur due to movement of camera. It is frustrating! Therefore, whenever I use telephoto lenses from 300mm onwards, a tripod is a must no matter what shutter speed. Very troublesome.

Anyone know how to steady hands or somehow reduce hand tremors? I notice that when shooting an exciting subject, the shaking is worse! :lol:

As such, grabbing a quick shot of a flighty subject, is at best iffy. :(

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Some proper holding technique can help.

http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/gu...ndholding1.html

http://www.moosepeterson.com/techtips/shortlens.html

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Hi OldFlower , welcome on board alphadslr.com ! :roll:

With all the equipments you have owned , i can tell you have come a long way , so i think you should not have much problem with shaky hands already . Furthermore , :P Alphas got SSS ! :cheer:

For me i realised myself got very minor hand shake problem which is making my photos blur when not using flash , especially shooting Macros . How to overcome it ? I don't think there is a way lor ... Otherwise , practice practice practice , try to grab & hold the camera with all the ways (as stated in the links provided by Mr Tankm) till you find a way that can reduce the hand shakes . Pushing your eye on & off the VF might helps too ... Sometimes i will not push my eye onto the eye cup when i shoot , i find it can stop some shakes . :sweat:

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OldFlower
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Hi hi alpha-ming & tankm, thanks for the reference and kind comments.

I personally don't think I've come a long way in photography - gone a long way in successfully emptying my bank account every year, is more accurate. :lol:

I still feel that I belong in the Newbie category. My consolation is that I am passionate about this art form, and the very equipment/accessories associated with it.

Well, this shakey problem I have persists no matter what handholding technics I deploy; even leaning against a tree or wall, helped little, unless I can shoot above 1/200. Sucks..

I'm a nervy guy (jumpy), so perhaps that's why. :lol:

oh and one more thing; OldFlower as a nick, implies I'm Long Sighted - in Hokkien is Low-huay, Cantonese is Loh-fah. This makes photography even more challenging for me! LOL

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Try find support - pillar, beam, railing, etc. Lean shoulder, rest hand with lens, etc

Else use light weight monopod...

If you using A700, can try higher iso, up to 4000, so you can increase shutter speed. Find a range confortable to use with available lighting.

No joke, cjng tested a lot of the high iso shoot without flash. Can see his recent shoot at Chingay (no flash) at around iso2000-4000.. can check his thread in gallery :)
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OldFlower
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Mar 20 2008, 10:44 AM
Try find support - pillar, beam, railing, etc. Lean shoulder, rest hand with lens, etc

Else use light weight monopod...

If you using A700, can try higher iso, up to 4000, so you can increase shutter speed. Find a range confortable to use with available lighting.

No joke, cjng tested a lot of the high iso shoot without flash. Can see his recent shoot at Chingay (no flash) at around iso2000-4000.. can check his thread in gallery :)

Thank you for your advice. Will try whatever is suggested, but at times, trying to get a good steady hold can change or ruin the framing I was trying to achieve. This is quite a bugbear for me. :( Hope this is not a sign of Parkinson's Disease when I grow old. :blink:

As for ISO, I shoot almost regiously in ISO100 - if possible, I'd crank it down to ISO25. I hanker for high res images, hence going up in ISO is my last resort in a shooting situation. Or unless graininess is what is called for in the image.

Flash is a definitie solution in lowlight for me, otherwise, out comes my tripod. ANd it will take time setting it up. When I say flash, I meant dedicated flash gun, with difuser attached. I cannot stand direct flash - too harsh, too cold. Difusing it into a soft light, with even distribution and almost zero shadows. This is flash photography in my mind and in my heart.




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Mar 20 2008, 12:18 PM
As for ISO, I shoot almost regiously in ISO100

Just thot this snippet from dpreview.com's review of the Sony Alpha A700 might be of interest to you given your preference for ISO 100...

"When ISO 100 isn't really ISO 100

So we've already established that there's a dynamic range difference between ISO 100 and 200 and that the sensor's base sensitivity is actually ISO 200 (although this isn't indicated on the camera). What this means in reality is that in ISO 100 mode the camera is effectively over-exposing and relying on the headroom available from the sensor to 'pull down' to a normal response. This can be seen clearly if you shoot RAW+JPEG at ISO 100 and process using a third party converter such as Adobe Camera RAW. The ISO 100 RAW image appears over-exposed and requires approximately -1.0 EV digital exposure compensation to achieve normal tone (note that ISO 200 RAW also required a -0.3 EV digital exposure compensation)."

Here's the dpreview link...
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra700/page21.asp
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OldFlower
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Mar 20 2008, 01:33 PM
Just thot this snippet from dpreview.com's review of the Sony Alpha A700 might be of interest to you given your preference for ISO 100...

"When ISO 100 isn't really ISO 100

So we've already established that there's a dynamic range difference between ISO 100 and 200 and that the sensor's base sensitivity is actually ISO 200 (although this isn't indicated on the camera). What this means in reality is that in ISO 100 mode the camera is effectively over-exposing and relying on the headroom available from the sensor to 'pull down' to a normal response. This can be seen clearly if you shoot RAW+JPEG at ISO 100 and process using a third party converter such as Adobe Camera RAW. The ISO 100 RAW image appears over-exposed and requires approximately -1.0 EV digital exposure compensation to achieve normal tone (note that ISO 200 RAW also required a -0.3 EV digital exposure compensation)."

Here's the dpreview link...
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydslra700/page21.asp

Hi Cecilsg,

Thanks for the informative link with regards the trueness of ISO100 settings.

Even as it is so, I feel that it is expected of digital technologies to inherit some degree of short-comings in the area of ISO. And if what cannot be helped for the timebeing, I feel what holds more value is the very way an image was or is composed, & subsequently exposed, while sticking closely to a chosen ISO setting.

Given time, I'm certain SONY would eventually be able to produce cameras that will and can truly take pictures with truer ISO standards.

It took me some 3 years to decide on going digital. Back then when 10mp was unheard off, negatives still overrules digital images in terms of resolution. Even when the Minolta Dynax7D with 6 or 7mp was available, I held my position with negatives or slides. I waited till Minolta sold their Camera Division, & SONY introduced the A100 with 10.2mp. Tested it, and felt confident to let go of my Negative/Slide Comfort Blankets.

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Dotaboy
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refrain from holding the camera with tightness.
just hold is softly in a relaxed manner.

when ur hand is tensed up,it 'vibrates'.
and while shooting,hold the body against ur face.
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Willis
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That's because he still thinks he is slapping the bass when he is holding the camera at 1/32 beat!! <_< :wacko: :mymistake:
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