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Why would you upgrade to A900?; If you already have A700 plus firmware 4
Topic Started: Sep 11 2008, 09:10 PM (1,046 Views)
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There are only a few reasons I can think of to jump onto A900.

[1] 24 megapixels - Crop Friendly - Useful for stock photography. 12mpx more is a big difference. Don't ever expect a 12mpx to be able to beat 24mpx in the amount of details that can be extracted from a shot. A900, like the 1DSMK3, wipes the floor with any other camera (today) that's not 20 mpx (ahem, D700) or more, the overall amount of resolution at high ISO still beats the D700 by a visible margin. Sometimes, you just cannot escape from raw physics.

[2] Intelligent preview -> I can think of a use for it - Just one shot can take care of all the adjustments, I usually take 2 shots to set exposure, and a few more shots to set and finalize White Balance, with Intelligent Preview, I can do it faster now and with lesser hassle.

[3] Ability to use and maximize the potential of both APS-C lenses and FF lenses. <--- the ability for me to utilize the 28-70mm @ 28mm is a big plus.

[4] Expect larger bokeh from your lenses. Size of your bokeh is related to the size of your sensor / film in addition to your subject/background distance relation and your aperture.

[5] I actually like the look of it, it looks mean and rough. hahaha... :sweat: A physically large camera is helpful when dealing with customers, that's one of the reasons to have a MF camera, because if you have a camera that's larger than your customers, they tend to take you more seriously. :) It's a shallow thing, but that's the thing that is going on out there in the world, believe it - that this happened before. With the VG on, this beast of a camera will be physically larger than the 1D and the D3 bodies, quite a sight to those who don't use DSLRs.

[6] This is nibbling at the toes of Digital Medium Format, for a fraction of the price of a Digital Back and another set of lenses and a MF body. If you are intending to do commercial work that needs large prints, the A900 is a good choice to consider.

[7] Intelligent Preview

[8] Micro AF adjustment

[9] Improved AF system with more sensors may mean more accuracy - though the AF sensor layout leaves something to be desired.

Reasons not to jump

[1] Much Larger File Size.
[2] Most of the things I can do on the A700 with similar image quality and function.
[3] No ROI for me.
[4] No assignments that needed prints that large... "large" as in Wall sized...
Edited by ChaoxAngel, Sep 12 2008, 12:15 AM.
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Sep 12 2008, 12:13 AM
There are only a few reasons I can think of to jump onto A900.

[1] 24 megapixels - Crop Friendly - Useful for stock photography. 12mpx more is a big difference. Don't ever expect a 12mpx to be able to beat 24mpx in the amount of details that can be extracted from a shot. A900, like the 1DSMK3, wipes the floor with any other camera (today) that's not 20 mpx (ahem, D700) or more, the overall amount of resolution at high ISO still beats the D700 by a visible margin. Sometimes, you just cannot escape from raw physics.

[2] Intelligent preview -> I can think of a use for it - Just one shot can take care of all the adjustments, I usually take 2 shots to set exposure, and a few more shots to set and finalize White Balance, with Intelligent Preview, I can do it faster now and with lesser hassle.

[3] Ability to use and maximize the potential of both APS-C lenses and FF lenses. <--- the ability for me to utilize the 28-70mm @ 28mm is a big plus.

[4] Expect larger bokeh from your lenses. Size of your bokeh is related to the size of your sensor / film in addition to your subject/background distance relation and your aperture.

[5] I actually like the look of it, it looks mean and rough. hahaha... :sweat: A physically large camera is helpful when dealing with customers, that's one of the reasons to have a MF camera, because if you have a camera that's larger than your customers, they tend to take you more seriously. :) It's a shallow thing, but that's the thing that is going on out there in the world, believe it - that this happened before. With the VG on, this beast of a camera will be physically larger than the 1D and the D3 bodies, quite a sight to those who don't use DSLRs.

[6] This is nibbling at the toes of Digital Medium Format, for a fraction of the price of a Digital Back and another set of lenses and a MF body. If you are intending to do commercial work that needs large prints, the A900 is a good choice to consider.

[7] Intelligent Preview

[8] Micro AF adjustment

[9] Improved AF system with more sensors may mean more accuracy - though the AF sensor layout leaves something to be desired.

Reasons not to jump

[1] Much Larger File Size.
[2] Most of the things I can do on the A700 with similar image quality and function.
[3] No ROI for me.
[4] No assignments that needed prints that large... "large" as in Wall sized...
well ...how abt trying to use a 35 or 85 mm lens on the a900... :devil1: :whistle:
Think a new system...
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Sep 12 2008, 12:16 AM
ChaoxAngel
Sep 12 2008, 12:13 AM
There are only a few reasons I can think of to jump onto A900.

[1] 24 megapixels - Crop Friendly - Useful for stock photography. 12mpx more is a big difference. Don't ever expect a 12mpx to be able to beat 24mpx in the amount of details that can be extracted from a shot. A900, like the 1DSMK3, wipes the floor with any other camera (today) that's not 20 mpx (ahem, D700) or more, the overall amount of resolution at high ISO still beats the D700 by a visible margin. Sometimes, you just cannot escape from raw physics.

[2] Intelligent preview -> I can think of a use for it - Just one shot can take care of all the adjustments, I usually take 2 shots to set exposure, and a few more shots to set and finalize White Balance, with Intelligent Preview, I can do it faster now and with lesser hassle.

[3] Ability to use and maximize the potential of both APS-C lenses and FF lenses. <--- the ability for me to utilize the 28-70mm @ 28mm is a big plus.

[4] Expect larger bokeh from your lenses. Size of your bokeh is related to the size of your sensor / film in addition to your subject/background distance relation and your aperture.

[5] I actually like the look of it, it looks mean and rough. hahaha... :sweat: A physically large camera is helpful when dealing with customers, that's one of the reasons to have a MF camera, because if you have a camera that's larger than your customers, they tend to take you more seriously. :) It's a shallow thing, but that's the thing that is going on out there in the world, believe it - that this happened before. With the VG on, this beast of a camera will be physically larger than the 1D and the D3 bodies, quite a sight to those who don't use DSLRs.

[6] This is nibbling at the toes of Digital Medium Format, for a fraction of the price of a Digital Back and another set of lenses and a MF body. If you are intending to do commercial work that needs large prints, the A900 is a good choice to consider.

[7] Intelligent Preview

[8] Micro AF adjustment

[9] Improved AF system with more sensors may mean more accuracy - though the AF sensor layout leaves something to be desired.

Reasons not to jump

[1] Much Larger File Size.
[2] Most of the things I can do on the A700 with similar image quality and function.
[3] No ROI for me.
[4] No assignments that needed prints that large... "large" as in Wall sized...
well ...how abt trying to use a 35 or 85 mm lens on the a900... :devil1: :whistle:
Oh, that's covered in reason [3] [4]... a 35mm whose image results that looks like a true 35mm would look good, with bigger bokeh. :P Very desirable.
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FYI, you can download the A900 "Product Catalog" pdf here. :wub:

http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/ss/product/alpha/a900_e.jsp
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something came to me.... if the lenses last time are designed to be used on film, which film in 35mm is more than 24mp in today's technology, apart from the kind of design that affects the colour from film to digital sensor, how come the 24mp sensor still outperform the lens?? can someone clarify this for me?
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Sep 12 2008, 07:24 AM
.... how come the 24mp sensor still outperform the lens?? can someone clarify this for me?
Bro... your question, I catch no ball leh...
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I agree with Chaoxangel on some points...

More mp means easier time cropping... but some will argue along Robert Capel's (not sure spelling tio bo) famous quote... if it ain't big enough, you ain't close enough...
More pp, when down size, will it help with the noise?
Unless you shoot at very high ISO and print large formats, can you see the noise?

The intelligent preview seems interesting... but if I am trying to shoot street-life where the action will not hold still for you, who often can I rely on the intelligent preview? But if i shoot landscape, etc, then the use of it will be there...

Due to the huge amount of data, it is reasonable to run dual processor... this is like arguing that whether Dual-Core PCs or notebooks are necessary. Why not go back to the days of single-core Pentium 4s running Windows 3.11 on a MS-DOS system?

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But will I buy the A900? I am currently using A200...

Yes... It makes more sense for me now to go for a upgrade as the leap in tech and quality is huge. 10.2mp to 24.6mp! APS-C to FF! Good noise control! Full use of my Minolta FF lenses... I get real 12mm when using my 12-24!

No... I am not good enough for the camera, too much a newbie... I am not semi-pro (don't even think about being a pro), do I need such a good cam? Too expense... I like the 1.5x crop (when shooting tele-photo...

headache... Why no news about the other 2 rumoured FF bodies...
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Sep 12 2008, 12:47 PM
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Sep 12 2008, 07:24 AM
.... how come the 24mp sensor still outperform the lens?? can someone clarify this for me?
Bro... your question, I catch no ball leh...
you know.... there are some ppl out there talking about older lens doesn't perform well in this new sensor... work good on a 12mp, but not on a higher sensor like this 24mp which is almost like the MP of a 35mm film equivalent. i just dun understand, when there are some who say the older lenses are not up to 24mp resolution... dunno
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Sep 12 2008, 01:02 PM
But will I buy the A900? I am currently using A200...

Yes... It makes more sense for me now to go for a upgrade as the leap in tech and quality is huge. 10.2mp to 24.6mp! APS-C to FF! Good noise control! Full use of my Minolta FF lenses... I get real 12mm when using my 12-24!

No... I am not good enough for the camera, too much a newbie... I am not semi-pro (don't even think about being a pro), do I need such a good cam? Too expense... I like the 1.5x crop (when shooting tele-photo...

headache... Why no news about the other 2 rumoured FF bodies...
maybe it will come soon? like the a300 and a350 :fbounce:
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