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| vibranze | Apr 14 2009, 05:46 PM Post #1 |
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Bros, Got some questions here and need your expertise advice:) 1. Which one is more suitable for walkabout lens? Is it 50mm/1.7 or 28mm/2.8? Are they good and what is the current market price? 2. How good or bad 50mm/1.7 compare to 50mm/1.4 and 28mm/2.8 compare to 28mm/2 or 24mm/2.8? 3. For walkabout lens, is it recommended to use a prime lens or zoom lens? 4. Can walkabout lens to be used or suitable as portrait lens as well? The lenses above is Minolta lens, fyi. TIA. V |
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| Stvc | Apr 14 2009, 07:00 PM Post #2 |
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1. To me any lens can do so, & all lens cannot be do so. just shoot with the what you have, cant reach? not wide enough? dont shoot lo haha. 2. I don't have any comment for the 50 F1.7 & 28 F2.8, at that price really cant comment and it work well for me. 3. Both can, different ppl different licking. For convenience wise shall be zoom lens. 4. Why not? There is no rule that portrait must shoot with portrait lens right? If wrong don't knock me haha. |
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| Jacker | Apr 14 2009, 07:26 PM Post #3 |
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Own this lens, AF 50mm f/1.4 until now still is my primary lens mount on the camera. Prime lens have it own style, u need to ask yourself how many lens u can effort. what is the mostly thing you going to do for photoshot? than you go pick the lens you want. One this and that enough cover Walkabout Lens. AF 50mm f/1.4 Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 ZA SSM |
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| Birder | Apr 14 2009, 07:45 PM Post #4 |
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1. Which one is more suitable for walkabout lens? Is it 50mm/1.7 or 28mm/2.8? Depends where you walk about? If you like to walk narrow street (Like Chinatown markets, Tiong Bahru), you might want a wide, preferably zoom (16-80, 17-50, 18-70, 24, 28, 2x-7x). 50mm can do as well, but it might need getting used, when you cannot frame all stuff in. Somehow it makes you do more compositional framing. If you like walking at park (Botanic Garden, Mac Ritchie) and you shooting animals and creatures, you may need a macro or tele macro (50mm, 90mm, 180mm 200mm or 70-200mm). For landscape it is wide ![]() Well... either one - Kit lens 18-70 and 50/1.7 are 2 lens you can start with 1. What is the current market price? 50/1.7 (150-250?), 28/2.8 (170-200?) 2. How good or bad 50mm/1.7 compare to 50mm/1.4 1.4 for bokeh? and additional stops to play with at low light. and 28mm/2.8 compare to 28mm/2 or 24mm/2.8? 28/2 is sharp @ wide open ie F/2. The other 2 might need to stop down. 3. For walkabout lens, is it recommended to use a prime lens or zoom lens? Matter of preference, see answer 1 as well 4. Can walkabout lens to be used or suitable as portrait lens as well? Can.. Why not!? |
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| Light | Apr 14 2009, 08:06 PM Post #5 |
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| Ming | Apr 14 2009, 09:32 PM Post #6 |
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1. Which one is more suitable for walkabout lens? Is it 50mm/1.7 or 28mm/2.8? Are they good and what is the current market price? If to compare between this 2 for walkabout , i will choose the 50mm but , don't expect to take landscape shots . 2. How good or bad 50mm/1.7 compare to 50mm/1.4 and 28mm/2.8 compare to 28mm/2 or 24mm/2.8? 50mm f1.4 will be brigther at f1.7 & sharper , 50mm f1.7 is older . Get the 50mm f1.4 Between 28mm & 24mm , get the 24mm . You will need it if you are getting a wide angle of this range , the wider the better . For me , among these you mentioned , i will get the 50mm f1.4 & 24mm f2.8 . 3. For walkabout lens, is it recommended to use a prime lens or zoom lens? I would prefer a Zoom like 16-80mm or 16-105mm , from wide to longest at 80mm or 105mm , i can shoot many many things i like . 4. Can walkabout lens to be used or suitable as portrait lens as well? Walkabout Lens , again depends on which you are getting . Of course any Lens of the above can be used to shoot portraits , and they are all good ! Creatively , you can use a wide angle to shoot from different angles besides shooting straight . Its fun too ! Just my 2 cents based on my own experiences with these Lenses . |
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| vibranze | Apr 14 2009, 09:55 PM Post #7 |
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Thanks bros for all the response:) I asked this because there is people selling these 2 lens at CS/BNS and tempted to get one of them since 2 of them are quite famous and the review is good as well. I actually read the lineup and cheap lineup thread over at Dyxum forum and these 2 lenses are inside, that's why thinking of getting one of them. http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13972&title=the-cheap-lineup http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3141&title=the-lineup The previous owner of my A200 was actually advised me to fully utilize the A200 first and let my future cam decide my lens investment which I found it's quite true:) @Ming, I was thinking of getting 50/1.4 and 24/2.8 as well. Lucky I didn't confirm with the seller, phewww. ![]() |
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| P.3 | Apr 14 2009, 10:21 PM Post #8 |
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1. Which one is more suitable for walkabout lens? Is it 50mm/1.7 or 28mm/2.8? Are they good and what is the current market price? Both r nice prime lenses with the 50mm being sharper once stop-up IMO Suitable for walkabout or not is just up to you, dun let lens limit your shoots and be in control. Lastly, both lenses are @ $200/- range2. How good or bad 50mm/1.7 compare to 50mm/1.4 and 28mm/2.8 compare to 28mm/2 or 24mm/2.8? Good thing is bigger aperture give you more light/bokeh to play with, bad thing is the price ![]() 3. For walkabout lens, is it recommended to use a prime lens or zoom lens? Shoot more and you understand this yourself. Got a lot to do with your style and photo preference ![]() I dun see anything wrong even with 200mm prime as walkabout lens and not a must with wider-angle for landscape. 4. Can walkabout lens to be used or suitable as portrait lens as well? Any lens can do as portrait....it's just the level of bokeh/sharpness/colour u going for. However do be careful of distortion with wide-angle. End of the day, it's wat u could do with the lens and not wat the lens can do for you Plenty of oversea photographers beats the hell out of me with just a basic DSLR and kit lens Edited by P.3, Apr 14 2009, 10:23 PM.
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| vibranze | Apr 14 2009, 10:33 PM Post #9 |
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@P.3, yeah agree with you, kitlens also can produce a really good result if we know how to fully maximize its potential. Again, as the well known phrase saying, it's the man behind that matters;) Thanks! V |
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| FrederickYKFoo | Apr 14 2009, 10:39 PM Post #10 |
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1. Which one is more suitable for walkabout lens? Is it 50mm/1.7 or 28mm/2.8? Are they good and what is the current market price? Both are good lens depends on things you like to take. The 18-70 kit lens is the best walkabout lenses for Newbie or oldies like me. When I started 27 years ago, I only have a kit lens for a long time. When I moved into Digital with C, I only have the kit lens for 2 years before I bought other lenses. Now in Sony, still use the Kit lens for a while before getting any prime. But still use the kit lens more. 2. How good or bad 50mm/1.7 compare to 50mm/1.4 and 28mm/2.8 compare to 28mm/2 or 24mm/2.8? Like P3 mention faster lenses are better in picture quality and can use bigger f/stop especially in low light. But they cost very much. It can cost 2x the price for 1/2 a stop difference. It is worth it ??? At the end of the day, it still depends on the kind of pictures you take. With good lighting, even cheap and slow lens can do the job very well. If you are taking baby or kids, 50mm f/1.7 on f/2 @ ISO 400 give quite good picture. 3. For walkabout lens, is it recommended to use a prime lens or zoom lens? Prime or zoom. This is depend very much on your style of taking and what you like to take. For me I see my mood for the day, the location and what I want to do that day. I normally can carry 1 lens or prime for walk about. Zoom lenses like 18-70, 16-80, 16-105 and etc. are to me "neither here or there" lenses. It has wide(24mm or smaller), normal(around 30mm) and tele(45mm and longer) lenses. It sound great to have 3 in 1 lens. But many do not know how to use it. Many just zoom in and out to frame the subject. In the end, their picture looks strange. It looks neither here nor there. It happen to many of student when they start. After I teach them the properties of wide, normal and tele lenses effect on pictures. They use their Zoom like prime. They get better. Here is I how I use my zoom like a prime lens. For example the kit lens, if I need tele, I set @ 70mm always. If I need normal/standard I set around 30 mm. If I need wide, I swing to 18mm. Then I move myself in and out to get the framing like when using a prime lens. This way I get prime effect on a zoom lens. I do not move my zoom to frame. To me zoom is a mixture of prime and prime is a part of zoom. And move your butt. 4. Can walkabout lens to be used or suitable as portrait lens as well? Let I mention in 3. depends what perpective I want to do that day or the effects I want. Traditionally, only tele lenses are use for portrait. In photojournalism and Japanese style, they love wide angle for portraiture. I am using wide for my kids now. Using the properties of the lenses, see what effect you want on picture. Recently, my latest student mention, he is glad that he take my course as he is still using the kit lens in his N system for all the pictures he produce. He know how to use the lens better on his system. As for his friends who did not taking any course, keep buying changing camera and lenses. Until now they still do not know what they want...... So, for a start, use your current camera and kit lenses for a period first. Use your kit lens as prime first and see how your picture improve. Good luck Edited by FrederickYKFoo, Apr 15 2009, 08:54 AM.
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just shoot with the what you have, cant reach? not wide enough? dont shoot lo haha.




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