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Ordure, ordure! and other bad puns
Topic Started: May 17 2009, 04:50 PM (562 Views)
Kenny
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Heh. Britain can oust its speaker over frivolous expense claims - we can't even boot our speaker for lying about when she was informed of "torture" by the CIA.

I say we grant Cob's wish and retract our independence. All Americans are hereby declared British citizens once again. Well, OK, just Pelosi. We can have her deported by Friday!

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Cobdenia
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Meh, it wouldn't be sporting to get back the colonies without a hoard of redcoats :P
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Cottia
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We know our congresspeople are corrupt. It would be shocking it someone weren't dirty. :lol:
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Kenny,May 20 2009
04:34 PM
Heh. Britain can oust its speaker over frivolous expense claims - we can't even boot our speaker for lying about when she was informed of "torture" by the CIA.

I say we grant Cob's wish and retract our independence. All Americans are hereby declared British citizens once again. Well, OK, just Pelosi. We can have her deported by Friday!

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I was watching the house and senate debates yesterday, it's getting brutally painful in there. Yet, Pelosi was nowhere to be seen.

During the late session in the house last night, four republicans were taping a debate on corruption in congress. One of the key points was how bills get changed in the rules committee which is cut off from the outside world while it meets. I thought it was rather interesting how every other committee gets televised or their minutes are public domain yet they meet in secret.
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eco
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Quit whining, you complete shitbag.

Bloody Freedom of Information Act. If we hadn't introduced the concept of transparency and accountability then we'd never have had this crisis...

I don't do this very often but:

:railingmostfuriously:

Hey, this smilie is called 'railing most furiously'! Nice!
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I'm sorry, but when you use public funds I think the people have a right to know what you're using them on. I don't give a damn if you're buying a foot long pink rubber dildo.

I don't care that his house is huge, he was a barrister, and that's probably how he could afford it, but I assume they get housing allowances, which I'm guessing is what all this is about, and he's claiming more than what he needs.

There is a similar problem going on in the states. Each year the members of congress get a cost of living wage. I forget how much but it was more than $1,000 per year. A lot of them were compaining about how that's to keep up two homes. It dawned on me at that point that maybe we should build something similar to a dorm for members of congress, then they can take a pay cut like everyone else. I don't see why we need to pay them more so they can have a second home when half of them spend less than a month in DC at any given time.
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The Evil Smurfs,May 20 2009
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Gruenberg,May 19 2009
03:55 PM
If a politician vowed to defend the NHS, improve public housing, scrap Trident, and reform the Common Agricultural Policy, and also claimed on their expenses for a new jacuzzi and a pair of gold-plated salad tongs, I think I'd still vote for them.

Promises for positive outweighs actions of corruption?

Ok, sorry, that was poorly worded by me. I do completely agree with this:
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Seems to me that for the corruption to be worthy of overlooking, they should actually do something positive
I just find this whole drama a little frustrating, perhaps because of the - incredibly skilful - way The Telegraph is spinning it out, making each new revelation a real EastEnders moment.

"And Bob...claimed for a new toilet brush."

DUNH DUNH DUNHDUNHDUNHDUNH...

(Sorrry, Americans won't get that joke.)

There are plenty of reasons to be angry at Parliament besides these claims and I'm worried about the kind of candidates that will profit from running against unrecalcitrant MPs, whether they're right-wing populists or left-wing populists.

Furthermore, without wishing to turn the tables, to some extent this isn't simply the fault of thieving MPs: they wouldn't have done it if they thought they were being watched. It seems unlikely they would have been so brazen in the face of a less startlingly apathetic public. After all, there is still less outrage over these claims than there is when someone tries to cheat in a reality TV contest.
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Cobdenia
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Only in the UK can our politicians be corrupt, get caught, and at the same time reveal how utterly bad they are at being corrupt (I mean, seriously, toilet seats? Not mercedes', not gold plated bathtubs, but dry rot? Cum'on guys...). African dictators are probably laughing at them.

Also, now the Michael Martin (the worst speaker ever) is stepping down, I think it is high time that Britain adopts an apolitical speaker, someone who is not a member of either party, and someone who could do the job well.

Okay, I just think Brian Blessed should be the speaker. That would be a whole new level of win.
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Kenny
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Gruenberg,May 28 2009
07:04 AM
I just find this whole drama a little frustrating, perhaps because of the - incredibly skilful - way The Telegraph is spinning it out, making each new revelation a real EastEnders moment.

"And Bob...claimed for a new toilet brush."

DUNH DUNH DUNHDUNHDUNHDUNH...

(Sorrry, Americans won't get that joke.)

I don't think we need to watch EastEnders to get that joke.

And why do you keep picking on Bob? What did Flib ever do to you? :dixie:

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Okay, I just think Brian Blessed should be the speaker. That would be a whole new level of win.

Heh. I liked the lady speaker you guys had before - what was her name?
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Gruenberg
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Betty Boothroyd!
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Cobdenia
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Betty Boythroyd was a good speaker.

Also, I am metaphorically dancing on Jacqui "Uberbitch Hobby Wrecker" Smith's grave
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eco
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Ian Hislop and Paul Merton should head up either side of the Commons with a guest Speaker each week.

Brian Blessed would do nicely, however. Especially if he's got more of those 'flying shit' stories:

5:21 onwards...
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Kenny
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Oh for fuck's sake, Gordie: just resign already! :auss:
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Gruenberg
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I'm getting really sick of people saying "Vote! It's your democratic duty! Oh, but don't vote UKIP/BNP/etc. And don't vote for a minor party, that's throwing your vote away." If it's my democratic duty I'll exercise it in whatever way I see fit.

The results are a little dramatic, though.
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Kenny
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So dramatic, in fact, I thought I'd clicked the wrong link when I first saw the results on another site. To lose every council he had (albeit in a conservative part of the country), and then come in third behind the LibDems must be particularly humiliating for Brown.

Assuming I know what I'm talking about, that is, which I clearly do not. :dixie:

edit: so, are the UKIP really the duplicitous fascist cabal NSG seems to think they are?
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