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Sotomayor
Topic Started: May 27 2009, 08:08 AM (321 Views)
eco
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Iron Felix,May 27 2009
06:18 PM
The Southern Commonwealth,May 27 2009
03:12 PM
For example, one of the streets near the University of Texas is "Guadalupe", yet the people here insist on calling it "Guada-loop".

That's just Texans being jackasses. I'm from Arkansas and I pronounce it Gwad-a-LOO-pay.

I know the name as French (as in the Caribbean island), so 'Guada-loop' makes perfect sense to me.
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Zarquon Froods,May 27 2009
07:52 PM
That would be the one. As to the picks, I'm not sure who else is retiring. I just remember them saying last night on the BBC that he was thinking about his picks before the election was over because he was going to have to make one in the first year and two more later on. I'd hazard a guess and say John Paul Stevens is probably going to be one of them considering his age. I'd say Scalia or Kennedy will be the other. Of course they may have been counting on him serving 8 years. But I'd say for certain that he's got at least one more to appoint before this term is up.

Well, Stevens is 89 and has probably been waiting for another Democratic president to take office before he leaves. That might be one more. Next down are Scalia and Kennedy, both of whom are in their early 70s and have been on the court for 20+ years, but appear to be very healthy and not ready to go anytime soon. The only real way Obama can have an impact on the Court obviously is if one of those two - or any of the three other conservatives - goes, but I doubt that's going to happen.
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Kenny,May 28 2009
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Zarquon Froods,May 27 2009
07:52 PM
That would be the one. As to the picks, I'm not sure who else is retiring. I just remember them saying last night on the BBC that he was thinking about his picks before the election was over because he was going to have to make one in the first year and two more later on. I'd hazard a guess and say John Paul Stevens is probably going to be one of them considering his age. I'd say Scalia or Kennedy will be the other. Of course they may have been counting on him serving 8 years. But I'd say for certain that he's got at least one more to appoint before this term is up.

Well, Stevens is 89 and has probably been waiting for another Democratic president to take office before he leaves. That might be one more. Next down are Scalia and Kennedy, both of whom are in their early 70s and have been on the court for 20+ years, but appear to be very healthy and not ready to go anytime soon. The only real way Obama can have an impact on the Court obviously is if one of those two - or any of the three other conservatives - goes, but I doubt that's going to happen.

Might be Ginzberg. Her health ain't all that good.

Personally, I'd really like someone to appoint a Supreme Court Justice who understands the 10th amendment, and tell the Feds to keep their hands off powers that don't belong to them. But them again, I'm just an unsavory, reactionary, God fearing, and gun loving good old boy from West 'by Gawd' Virginia. :o
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I wanted to say Ginzberg, but she's not been on the bench very long.

But, I'm like you, I'd rather see a justice who believes in what the constitution says and not what they think it says.
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Allech-Atreus,May 27 2009
10:12 AM
Really? She's a solid judge with a centrist background, vetted by Clinton and appointed by Bush II

No. Bush the Elder. And he was hardly great about appointing constructionalists.

Furthermore, she's not a well respected juror. She's been frequently chastised by other court members for ignoring the law or giving one paragraph opinions. Yes, one paragraph. Even Clarence "I Hate Writing" Thomas does more than that.

Her only qualification is that she's Hispanic, and I think she'll actually have a tough road. Her brain-dead comments about having some sort of magical wisdom because she's Hispanic and female are going to bite her hard.

As for pronunciation of her name, she can suck it up as far as I'm concerned. I don't insist on the original German pronunciation of my surname. It's part of assimilating to the culture of the country you live in.
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Surely your name is your name is your name? If I choose to pronounce my name emphasising the French influence then, pretentious or no, it's only respectful for others to do the same (I don't but that's by the by). Place names are different: A Frenchman can call London 'Londres'; a Brit will probably say 'Paris', pronouncing the 's' and not gargling the 'r'. But your own name is important, for many people it's an important part of their identity.

I don't think it's anything to do with assimilating and nor is that necessarily a desirable thing. Pyotr Borbrofski may choose to be Peter Bober for convenience's sake but if he chooses not to then it's not my place to question his decision, really.

I can't help but feel a lot is being made of this and rather unnecessarily. But perhaps the British perspective I'm coming from is fundamentally at odds?
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I think it might be the British perspective; over here, pronunciation of names is a bit more important as in some cases it distinguishes certain families, so we're used to one name being pronounced mulitple ways. The classic example is Featherstonehaugh; depedning on which family with the surname your from, it is pronounced as spelt, Feestonhor, Fathershaw, Fanshaw of Fensaw. So we accept these difference and they become important. With place names, there is also often an importance an importance - the way one pronounces Burwash tells if you're a Sussex native or not, and the way one pronounces Heathfield is a clue to how old you are.
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So be it. It's soh-toh-mai-YORE.

I don't care anymore. Besides, I have a really fun weekend planned. I'm going up to low-SAHN-hay-lace, where I'm attending a protest against mistreatment of immigrants from MAY-hee-koh and ALE saul-vah-DOR. I might have to swing through RAWN-cho pen-yah-SKEET-ohs first, to pick up my cousin, then maybe to the auto shop in ACE-cone-deed-oh to get my oil and tires checked for the trip.

I'm sorry, is the ridiculous overemphasis on the Spanish accent bothering any of you? Heh, I don't even notice anymore! :P

And for the record, I do realize that pronunciation of names is a matter of personal preference, just as Christina Aguilera's decision to gain a few pounds so she could show off her "Latin curves" was a matter of personal preference. I just think it's stupid.
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I can understand why people get upset when someone mispronounces their name, but at the same time I can say that not everyone can speak with the same accent. I mean I wouldn't get upset if somone mispronounced mine, although it'd be hard as hell to mess up an Irish name.

I think they're just make a big deal out of nothing. I say things the way I see it spelled, so saying may-yore doesn't bother me so much. I just don't put the accent on the e so I guess that makes me an asshole.
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As it turns out, Americans support Sotomayor by a flimsy 47-40 percent margin. She will win confirmation, of course -- barring some "dead girl/live boy" story -- but those numbers are horrible.

(...worse even than Palin's approval rating, heh. :dixie:)
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