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A New Dawn; A Call to Arms
Topic Started: Dec 28 2011, 03:22 AM (649 Views)
Matt
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~Fayvan~
We sit here and wonder what happened...

I. The Current state


The pure community as we know it is in shambles, and hardly exists. We sit here as our long lost glory is now masked by the cancer that is high defence, selling clan locations, specific clan times, spies, DDoSing, attacking player's real life information. How is this fun and how does this define anything that is pure clanning? The current state of the pure community is now not a pure community, but main clans that accept pures into their clan. They use this as an excuse to still call themselves pure, but they're in denial. 35-40 defence is being used in such clans and has now left me to believe all is lost for the old community, and everyone should just face the facts and go up to main-dom.

These clans also base their "fun" off of specific times to Pk at, for just the weekend, with like 50% or less pulls of their clan. And if these clans don't get the "leaks" of their rival clans, they will have a horrible trip. These clans feel the need to do anything to win on their only scheduled weekend events to show their "power?". Sounds really fun to me, big time. So what do they do to add more fun to the table? They add weekday events, that you should sign up for! Everything in this clan community is based on schedules that works for every clan, not for a single clan, because the only thing that's important is their "power". These clans are afraid to go off and do their own thing, they won't even p2p on saturday and f2p on sunday because the other clans "don't do that". Who the fuck cares what other clans do? None of you are pure anyways so I really don't give a shit what any of you do; and the fact that they need to have scheduled trips, leaks, spies and defence to beat their rival main clans who also have leaks, spies and defence in order to live, is just pathetic. Can't even be different or try to have fun in their type of community or you fail as a clan.

II. The Chance

Some of us have had chats these past few months, and probably the same ones as I was having a year ago. It's time for a change, and a big one at that. It's time to bring back the real pure clans, and it's time to bring back the real way of pure clanning. No more of this bullshit leaks or spies and what not. It's time to bring the fun back. Even mains in the current community say "I wanna make a low lvl for FUN" or make a clan for "FUN." Because their current clan or community sucks so hard that it isn't fun, and it is super serious business, which is what pure clanning is about... NOT.

It's time my friends, it's time to make the biggest change this community has ever seen, and thats the split of main and pure alike. Others and I have agreed that in order to do so you need to build everything back from the ground up. This being, LPC's or Low Level Pure Clans. Clans that are real pure clans, they focus on the real art of being pures by staying as low of a defence as possible. With that foundation of keeping the art of purity alive, we can establish rules to go with it, which is combat and defence caps, thus keeping it pure.

In order to start this type of community, you're going to need more than 1-2 pure clans. Yes there are masser clans and tons of kids pking at our levels, but that's half the fun. Having that extra competition just adds that full effect of true pure clanning of the old days. With so many more options available, the fun will never stop. With that I hope any guest reading this that isn't join AI, will go on to make their own with a group of friends and come join the party.

We will also need to do things apart from the "norm" of this previous main-like community. Instead of relying on specific trips and times to attack clans, we'll need to pk randomly throughout the day and throughout the week, and stay away from the times that the mains stay at(not like they can attack us anyways, but even if we grow to be higher, we will need to show that pure clans do not compete with main clans and we stick to ourselves.) Do not be afraid to go off and do your own thing, you have nothing and no one to impress but yourself and your members. With the change in what your clan and our clan do throughout the weekend, and the distance that we create with the main clan world, they will have no-one to compete with, but themselves. Of which they die in the end or just become fullblown main clans.

With our new clans formed, we will need to keep a close knit on what our rules are and how we will form this new community, because we cannot and I repeat, CANNOT, allow what happened to the former shit community that stands today. I give all my respects to Enemy (NME) for being the only pure clan left in that community, I pity and envy them so much. There is no reason to lie to themselves that they enjoy fighting clans in armour, because that's not fun at all. My respects to you guys, and I hope more clans will be coming up to see you soon and we can all branch off to a new community and competition filled with more enjoyable people and more enjoyable ways to have rivalries.

III. The Archaic

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1. marked by the characteristics of an earlier period; antiquated: an archaic manner; an archaic notion.
2. (of a linguistic form) commonly used in an earlier time but rare in present-day usage except to suggest the older time, as in religious rituals or historical novels. Examples: thou; wast; methinks; forsooth.
3. forming the earliest stage; prior to full development: the archaic period of psychoanalytic research.


Is what we stand for, the old ways of pure clanning. With the prior statements to this topic, The Archaic will stand for everything that is to come, and help revitalize the ways of the old styled pure clanning.

-In irony, we will help bring in the new era, which will be based on the old era. We will stand for everything that use to be and what will be.-

The Archaic will allow multi-clanning for one sake and one sake only. It's not for that +1 person, but just to allow members from shit main clans to join and to prove to them that they are missing out on real pure clanning and that I can convince them to stay or go make their own one. I want you to leave this clan knowing what real pure clanning is, and I want you to fucking know how to properly do it. If you're multi-clanning or a leader reading this right now, don't take offence but I'm showing you one of the secrets as to why I'm allowing multi-clanning because I don't give a shit and I know I'm right and I know I can show your members how much more fun they can have.

The Archaic will be pking randomly throughout the week, and possibly weekends. It depends on if people want to pk or not, but that doesn't even matter because it's just members asking other members if they want to pk... you know like friends? I'm going to allow members to lead random trips whenever they please, even if I'm on and with them. I want this to be a friendly environment and I want to teach people how to lead and how to have fun in this game. I also want to take this and put it in the stand point of how teams use to play in the wilderness or the random friends that would just enter the wild to play. That's what we're doing, playing and having fun. I will take over if need be though, and the ranks that are earned through AI will also be leading whenever they choose(they'll be picked on how well you do with actively starting up trips and running them), so don't get any ideas ;). The trips will be based off of respect earned through everyone given a chance.

With that all said, that's also the reason for the initials "AI". It stands for artificial intelligence, which is how the clan will be ran, it will live off on it's own having fun and doing whatever it pleases under the guidelines set by me and Ai. Everything I do or say has a million reasons and meanings behind it, remember that.

Last but not least, we will not be accepting anyone with 5 defence or more, and we will not be doing any of these "matched" fights, and we sure as hell won't be using clan wars. Clan wars is what killed the pure community in the first place, I don't see the reasoning in using the machine that started our demise, it's just ironic and stupid. And if you want to find AI, or fight us, it'll be in the wilderness. If you want to prep us, expect it to be our pull against your pull, I don't give a shit if I'm outnumbered, it's runescape not life; not gonna cry over losing pixels.

IV. The Utopia

Imagine 10+ lower level clans, all pulling the same, all having the same requirements, and the same morals. Imagine all that, and the massers plus random pking. This is what it all use to be like, and it was fun as fuck. I hope to see this happen, it's crazy and sounds impossible but at least I'm willing to give it a shot, because honestly I don't see myself in that community or in any of those clans. I want to have fun and I want to play the game for what it is, not for what a standard main community wants it to be. I wish for all to see this and to try something new... which ironically is something old.

They all said they needed to adapt to the change to the new times. I say nothings changed, you can still be 1 defence, they didn't take that away. I say "they" changed, and I say it's time for us to change back.
Edited by Matt, Dec 28 2011, 03:34 AM.
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Grifte
Jan 14 2012, 08:29 AM
What about high combat pures, with low def, who are still in their clans, but would want to join? Do u allow them, or only if they train a new pure? (Which many people would refuse to the time it takes, or other reasons?)

Aren't u afraid that all the experienced and valuable members are joining ur clan, leading the other clans to that less quality/quantity that they possible go to spying/cheating/whatever reasons just to not get beaten?

And seeing u got so many experienced members, and also the ability in this clan to learn how to get a (pk) leader, don't u think if people have settled here for quite some time, they just don't want to leave because of their friends here, or the amount of fun?

How are u gonna reach new pures, basically alot of people here know the pure world since it the good days, yet there still alot of mains making pures these days, but with the amount of 30 def publicity of 30 def, and now even 1-45 in Pot, aren't u afraid these new ppl will get turned on to easily by the high hits and better def that turm/zerk provides? So yeah how are u basically gonna show the rs world that this form of pure is better, more fun and more sticking to the original way pures were ment to be.

Haven't played rs for months, so my info may be out of date or slighty wrong, just some questions that popped up reading ur speech.
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What about high combat pures, with low def, who are still in their clans, but would want to join? Do u allow them, or only if they train a new pure? (Which many people would refuse to the time it takes, or other reasons?)


Only if they stay within the combat cap. We need to stick to lower levels to build back up, and we also need to stick to the combat range in order to PK perfectly. I'd only suggest these higher levels ask around for accounts and be apart of our community.

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Aren't u afraid that all the experienced and valuable members are joining ur clan, leading the other clans to that less quality/quantity that they possible go to spying/cheating/whatever reasons just to not get beaten?

Not afraid at all, there really isn't any competition around our levels accept for the large amounts of randomers and massers in the wilderness. We're setting the example of what to do as a pure clan and there's really no need to spy or anything to us, because there's nothing to gain from it. We are completely seperate from the other community.

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And seeing u got so many experienced members, and also the ability in this clan to learn how to get a (pk) leader, don't u think if people have settled here for quite some time, they just don't want to leave because of their friends here, or the amount of fun?

Not sure where you're getting at here but yeah that's the point, a huge community of friends is was I want and I wouldn't want them to leave!

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How are u gonna reach new pures, basically alot of people here know the pure world since it the good days, yet there still alot of mains making pures these days, but with the amount of 30 def publicity of 30 def, and now even 1-45 in Pot, aren't u afraid these new ppl will get turned on to easily by the high hits and better def that turm/zerk provides? So yeah how are u basically gonna show the rs world that this form of pure is better, more fun and more sticking to the original way pures were ment to be.

1. I see pot as a great thing. Their 40 defence+ will help break the community even further apart helping us stick to ourselves.
2. POT and all of them have nothing to do with us, they can't even attack us, let alone compete. We're completely seperate from that community.
3. We already have 4-5 randomers from Runescape join this site, and 5 more in our in game CC. We're getting known real fast as we pk everyday. The more we go out and the more people see us destroying:
A: More masser teams and clans will be made to try to fight us.
B: They'll want to join.

A win win situation.


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Alright, the thing u didn't understand what I was saying, I meant merely will there be enough competition for u guys, with all the nice and good ppl stay in ai, people wanting to join in with the fun, experienced ppl etc?
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Matt
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Jan 14 2012, 02:16 PM
Alright, the thing u didn't understand what I was saying, I meant merely will there be enough competition for u guys, with all the nice and good ppl stay in ai, people wanting to join in with the fun, experienced ppl etc?
No there won't be, eventually we will forever be in our own league if we stay the way we are. At the moment I've forced this clan to be anti-public and not allow people to know about us. Hence why you asked around and no one knew who we are. I plan to stay this way.

If new lower clans comming out and such, I truely hope they do somewhat give us a challenge and a run for our money. But basically we exist to dominate little randoms in the wild and enjoy pking as a group of friends like the old days of Runescape. So far we've hardly ran into other "official" low level clans, and we've just been surviving off massers, therefore not needing other clans to live.

Would be nice to see other clans, but it won't make much of a difference at the moment.
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Dec 28 2011, 03:22 AM
We sit here and wonder what happened...

I. The Current state


The pure community as we know it is in shambles, and hardly exists. We sit here as our long lost glory is now masked by the cancer that is high defence, selling clan locations, specific clan times, spies, DDoSing, attacking player's real life information. How is this fun and how does this define anything that is pure clanning? The current state of the pure community is now not a pure community, but main clans that accept pures into their clan. They use this as an excuse to still call themselves pure, but they're in denial. 35-40 defence is being used in such clans and has now left me to believe all is lost for the old community, and everyone should just face the facts and go up to main-dom.

These clans also base their "fun" off of specific times to Pk at, for just the weekend, with like 50% or less pulls of their clan. And if these clans don't get the "leaks" of their rival clans, they will have a horrible trip. These clans feel the need to do anything to win on their only scheduled weekend events to show their "power?". Sounds really fun to me, big time. So what do they do to add more fun to the table? They add weekday events, that you should sign up for! Everything in this clan community is based on schedules that works for every clan, not for a single clan, because the only thing that's important is their "power". These clans are afraid to go off and do their own thing, they won't even p2p on saturday and f2p on sunday because the other clans "don't do that". Who the fuck cares what other clans do? None of you are pure anyways so I really don't give a shit what any of you do; and the fact that they need to have scheduled trips, leaks, spies and defence to beat their rival main clans who also have leaks, spies and defence in order to live, is just pathetic. Can't even be different or try to have fun in their type of community or you fail as a clan.

II. The Chance

Some of us have had chats these past few months, and probably the same ones as I was having a year ago. It's time for a change, and a big one at that. It's time to bring back the real pure clans, and it's time to bring back the real way of pure clanning. No more of this bullshit leaks or spies and what not. It's time to bring the fun back. Even mains in the current community say "I wanna make a low lvl for FUN" or make a clan for "FUN." Because their current clan or community sucks so hard that it isn't fun, and it is super serious business, which is what pure clanning is about... NOT.

It's time my friends, it's time to make the biggest change this community has ever seen, and thats the split of main and pure alike. Others and I have agreed that in order to do so you need to build everything back from the ground up. This being, LPC's or Low Level Pure Clans. Clans that are real pure clans, they focus on the real art of being pures by staying as low of a defence as possible. With that foundation of keeping the art of purity alive, we can establish rules to go with it, which is combat and defence caps, thus keeping it pure.

In order to start this type of community, you're going to need more than 1-2 pure clans. Yes there are masser clans and tons of kids pking at our levels, but that's half the fun. Having that extra competition just adds that full effect of true pure clanning of the old days. With so many more options available, the fun will never stop. With that I hope any guest reading this that isn't join AI, will go on to make their own with a group of friends and come join the party.

We will also need to do things apart from the "norm" of this previous main-like community. Instead of relying on specific trips and times to attack clans, we'll need to pk randomly throughout the day and throughout the week, and stay away from the times that the mains stay at(not like they can attack us anyways, but even if we grow to be higher, we will need to show that pure clans do not compete with main clans and we stick to ourselves.) Do not be afraid to go off and do your own thing, you have nothing and no one to impress but yourself and your members. With the change in what your clan and our clan do throughout the weekend, and the distance that we create with the main clan world, they will have no-one to compete with, but themselves. Of which they die in the end or just become fullblown main clans.

With our new clans formed, we will need to keep a close knit on what our rules are and how we will form this new community, because we cannot and I repeat, CANNOT, allow what happened to the former shit community that stands today. I give all my respects to Enemy (NME) for being the only pure clan left in that community, I pity and envy them so much. There is no reason to lie to themselves that they enjoy fighting clans in armour, because that's not fun at all. My respects to you guys, and I hope more clans will be coming up to see you soon and we can all branch off to a new community and competition filled with more enjoyable people and more enjoyable ways to have rivalries.

III. The Archaic

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1. marked by the characteristics of an earlier period; antiquated: an archaic manner; an archaic notion.
2. (of a linguistic form) commonly used in an earlier time but rare in present-day usage except to suggest the older time, as in religious rituals or historical novels. Examples: thou; wast; methinks; forsooth.
3. forming the earliest stage; prior to full development: the archaic period of psychoanalytic research.


Is what we stand for, the old ways of pure clanning. With the prior statements to this topic, The Archaic will stand for everything that is to come, and help revitalize the ways of the old styled pure clanning.

-In irony, we will help bring in the new era, which will be based on the old era. We will stand for everything that use to be and what will be.-

The Archaic will allow multi-clanning for one sake and one sake only. It's not for that +1 person, but just to allow members from shit main clans to join and to prove to them that they are missing out on real pure clanning and that I can convince them to stay or go make their own one. I want you to leave this clan knowing what real pure clanning is, and I want you to fucking know how to properly do it. If you're multi-clanning or a leader reading this right now, don't take offence but I'm showing you one of the secrets as to why I'm allowing multi-clanning because I don't give a shit and I know I'm right and I know I can show your members how much more fun they can have.

The Archaic will be pking randomly throughout the week, and possibly weekends. It depends on if people want to pk or not, but that doesn't even matter because it's just members asking other members if they want to pk... you know like friends? I'm going to allow members to lead random trips whenever they please, even if I'm on and with them. I want this to be a friendly environment and I want to teach people how to lead and how to have fun in this game. I also want to take this and put it in the stand point of how teams use to play in the wilderness or the random friends that would just enter the wild to play. That's what we're doing, playing and having fun. I will take over if need be though, and the ranks that are earned through AI will also be leading whenever they choose(they'll be picked on how well you do with actively starting up trips and running them), so don't get any ideas ;). The trips will be based off of respect earned through everyone given a chance.

With that all said, that's also the reason for the initials "AI". It stands for artificial intelligence, which is how the clan will be ran, it will live off on it's own having fun and doing whatever it pleases under the guidelines set by me and Ai. Everything I do or say has a million reasons and meanings behind it, remember that.

Last but not least, we will not be accepting anyone with 5 defence or more, and we will not be doing any of these "matched" fights, and we sure as hell won't be using clan wars. Clan wars is what killed the pure community in the first place, I don't see the reasoning in using the machine that started our demise, it's just ironic and stupid. And if you want to find AI, or fight us, it'll be in the wilderness. If you want to prep us, expect it to be our pull against your pull, I don't give a shit if I'm outnumbered, it's runescape not life; not gonna cry over losing pixels.

IV. The Utopia

Imagine 10+ lower level clans, all pulling the same, all having the same requirements, and the same morals. Imagine all that, and the massers plus random pking. This is what it all use to be like, and it was fun as fuck. I hope to see this happen, it's crazy and sounds impossible but at least I'm willing to give it a shot, because honestly I don't see myself in that community or in any of those clans. I want to have fun and I want to play the game for what it is, not for what a standard main community wants it to be. I wish for all to see this and to try something new... which ironically is something old.

They all said they needed to adapt to the change to the new times. I say nothings changed, you can still be 1 defence, they didn't take that away. I say "they" changed, and I say it's time for us to change back.
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interesting this is absolutely insane but thats gucci
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Like i explained in my app. low level pking sooooooooooooooooooooooo much more fun than the other bullshit.

i used to lead my own low level team a few months back (closed like 5months ago) because i quit and went inactive for a while. but that doesn't matter anymore.

I Joined this clan too enjoy the old school fun of pking (ofc it will never be the same as 04-07) also you explained all the reasons i wanted to join this clan better than i could myself :P i also agree 200% with you.

(wish you opened 1 year ago soo we could of have had some fun run ins ;P, but then i wouldn't of been here xoxoxoxox)
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