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| Topic Started: Feb 13 2016, 05:13 PM (78 Views) | |
| ♥ Rach ♥ | Feb 13 2016, 05:13 PM Post #1 |
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A Momentary Lapse or Abusive Teaching? I'd fall more on the side that this is inappropriate. |
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| Sentinel Optik | Feb 13 2016, 05:22 PM Post #2 |
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I don't see the problem with it. This is a private school in a math lesson. None of the kids seemed to be picking up on the idea of 'humiliation,' as opposed to the idea that the teacher was seriously disappointed. Since these are first graders, you're talking about 6 year olds? If a parent used that exact same tone of voice and language with a 6 year old in order to express disapproval I don't think anyone would call it abusive or inappropriate. Perhaps there are better teaching methods, but I would need to see this teacher's track record in her class's math performance. I'm reasonably sure I was yelled at by teachers in 1st, 2nd, 3rd grade for doing stupid shit and I never found it abusive - when you're that age you haven't yet been exposed to the culture of victimhood and mentality that if you have a negative emotion then it's someone else's fault, and you fix yourself and move on, and forget about being yelled at 15 minutes later. |
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| Zander Cerebella | Feb 13 2016, 05:24 PM Post #3 |
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Simple solution to a child getting a question wrong. Make them write or read the correct answer a few times until they get it without assistance. Its an overreaction to something that can be handle a lot more easily. The child wasn't a distraction to other pupils and wasn't causing a disruption so singling them out as she did is a definite no. |
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| 34625197 | Feb 13 2016, 05:54 PM Post #4 |
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I went to Catholic school, and the nuns were crazy. This video is absolutely mild by comparison. |
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Feb 13 2016, 06:32 PM Post #5 |
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I think in many cases, and this is the same for hitting children that this ends up being more about relieving anger and frustration rather than for the benefit of the child. The teacher is clearly taking out her anger on the kid, her record according to the NYT was really good for math. However, having said that it's not like America has a great elementary school system in general. Canada as well struggles to acquire talent for those schools. So I'm not sure if she is such a great teacher even if her kids are doing better than average in math. |
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| Cpt.Carrot | Feb 14 2016, 01:23 PM Post #6 |
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Once again I appreciate my teachers at school (private btw ) who never did anything like that... although one did stroll up and dawn swinging a knobkerrie, but he felt bad when he misjudged and made contact with a chair
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"The greatness of a nation consists not so much in the number of its people or the extent of its territory as in the extent and justice of its compassion" - Inscribed on the plinth of the Horse Memorial in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. "Many politicians are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old story who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim." ~ Thomas Babington Macaulay What I hope to be
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| Laurentus | Feb 14 2016, 02:50 PM Post #7 |
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Totally unrelated to the video, sorry... Cpt.Carrot, is knobkerrie the English word for knopkierie? I've never actually seen it spelt in English before. |
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| Cpt.Carrot | Feb 15 2016, 08:52 AM Post #8 |
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It's probably the way every soutie spells it xD I'm surprised someone knows what it is
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"The greatness of a nation consists not so much in the number of its people or the extent of its territory as in the extent and justice of its compassion" - Inscribed on the plinth of the Horse Memorial in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. "Many politicians are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old story who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim." ~ Thomas Babington Macaulay What I hope to be
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Feb 15 2016, 09:26 AM Post #9 |
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I'm pretty amused also that this is how a teacher feels she needs to teach a class like this when for example, my University which is a top 20 school in the world would never teach math this way. |
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| Sentinel Optik | Feb 15 2016, 04:39 PM Post #10 |
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Teaching first graders is a lot different than teaching university students. In case you were completely unaware of that very obvious fact. |
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Feb 15 2016, 05:36 PM Post #11 |
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As someone who teaches kids in that age group swimming, it's quite ineffective to be like that. |
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| Laurentus | Feb 15 2016, 05:53 PM Post #12 |
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I should probably weigh in on the actual topic before commenting on Cpt.Carrot's post again. It's been proven that positive reinforcement works better with children than negative reinforcement. Even when negative reinforcement IS effective, the child can develop a whole host of personality issues, and make them want to perform for the wrong reasons. That's not to say children can't handle punishments -- they can -- it should just never be done out of anger, and there should always be a focus on what the child happened to do right, as well. Teachers like these are sometimes the reason children grow to hate maths and perform poorly, even though their aptitude scores show they should be doing well. Of course, this is a major over-simplification, but my point has been delivered well enough, I think. Anyway, to Cpt.Carrot: Howzit, bru? Have I finally encountered a fellow South African in a big region on NS? |
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| Cpt.Carrot | Feb 18 2016, 04:04 PM Post #13 |
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Shouting at young kids is just never going to get you anywhere, at best it will result in some semblance of "behaviur" but won't result in any meaningful learning. @Laurentius: born in Bots, lived ZA for 15 years, been in the UK since 2014 |
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"The greatness of a nation consists not so much in the number of its people or the extent of its territory as in the extent and justice of its compassion" - Inscribed on the plinth of the Horse Memorial in Port Elizabeth, South Africa. "Many politicians are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old story who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim." ~ Thomas Babington Macaulay What I hope to be
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) who never did anything like that... although one did stroll up and dawn swinging a knobkerrie, but he felt bad when he misjudged and made contact with a chair

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