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German & Slovakian Far right on the rise?
Topic Started: Mar 16 2016, 01:03 PM (21 Views)
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In recent elections, both the AfD in Germany and the SNS and L'SNS in Slovakia have seen rapid improvement to their fortunes. The SNS party and L'SNS party are pretty scary, with the former being anti-minority and anti-Hungarian in particular and the latter being anti-Semite and anti-roma. Both parties support the rehabilitation of Jozef Tiso, a dictator responsible for deporting the Jews from Slovakia, a satellite of Nazi Germany. Not pretty stuff. However, on the Slovakian election, the SNS and L'SNS had not even made the threshold last election to gain seats. As well, there was a lot of success by the liberal party SaS.

AfD in Germany appears to be more like the National Front in France than the SNS and L'SNS who appear far more worrying. The NPD in Germany, which is the successor the Nazi Party would be far more like the SNS and the L'SNS than the AfD. The AfD will not accept members who have been associated with the NPD and have tried to cool down their rhetoric.

Overall, it's pretty worrisome to want a proportional based democracy if this is what you get.
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Overall, it's pretty worrisome to want a proportional based democracy if this is what you get.
What makes you think proportional representation is the problem? It seems like if the far right parties actually grow large enough to be a major problem, they would still succeed under another voting system.
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Overall, it's pretty worrisome to want a proportional based democracy if this is what you get.
What makes you think proportional representation is the problem? It seems like if the far right parties actually grow large enough to be a major problem, they would still succeed under another voting system.
SNS & L'SNS got around 8% of the vote and many seats. You would not have that in first past the post regional elections.
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Overall, it's pretty worrisome to want a proportional based democracy if this is what you get.
What makes you think proportional representation is the problem? It seems like if the far right parties actually grow large enough to be a major problem, they would still succeed under another voting system.
SNS & L'SNS got around 8% of the vote and many seats. You would not have that in first past the post regional elections.
What do you mean by many seats? If they got 8% of the vote in a proportional system then I would imagine it would be 8% of the seats or close to it. If that's the case I'm not sure what the big deal is.

Now I understand that there is a trend of these various right wing parties growing in support, but that's a completely separate issue from proportional electoral systems. When the parties are largest enough to actually be a concern they would be able to win FPTP elections anyway.
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