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| Topic Started: Nov 27 2013, 12:58 AM (508 Views) | |
| ♥ Rach ♥ | Nov 27 2013, 12:58 AM Post #1 |
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So apparently, the States sent two of it's B-52s in an area recently claimed by the Chinese as their own airspace. This area is part of the disputed South Asian Sea, and also includes the disputed Japanese/Chinese islands.... |
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| Fuzzy | Nov 27 2013, 06:15 AM Post #2 |
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Owl says who?
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All a show of force to make the US feel better about China's continued rise.
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| Campinia | Nov 27 2013, 08:55 AM Post #3 |
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I thought this was going to be about the band
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Nov 27 2013, 09:09 AM Post #4 |
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Eh, I think it was more about Japan and South Korea. |
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| Horse on Fire | Nov 27 2013, 12:28 PM Post #5 |
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| warkeeper | Nov 27 2013, 02:03 PM Post #6 |
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Heres my 2 cents about this >.> China is kinda being a dick about the whole south china sea issue and need to realize that while they are going to be a military superpower on our level the aren't yet and have to respect the boundaries that the treaties set decades before. It's kinda an interesting game with extremely high stakes. We send a few (unarmed) aircraft in the area on there way to one of our airbases in Japan on a common international route knowing that China can't intercept them without causing an international incident leading to bad things for them (namely sanctions, which are highly effective against China as 40% of there food comes from out of country). They also know that they can't escalate the conflict against Japan without bringing Europe and the US into the conflict, so right now it's a matter of flexing muscles on there side. |
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| Horse on Fire | Nov 27 2013, 04:41 PM Post #7 |
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:mellow: :mellow: *not knowing what anyone is talking about* |
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| Liana Soloviev | Nov 27 2013, 05:56 PM Post #8 |
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Leave the lights on.
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That seems as if you're saying the U.S doesn't have to respect international treaties.
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| Vixy | Nov 27 2013, 06:15 PM Post #9 |
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“If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention...”
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concerning these islands do I agree agree with the US on this one. these islands are a special case. |
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| The Iron Rebel | Nov 27 2013, 06:36 PM Post #10 |
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And here I thought she meant the band.
Edited by The Iron Rebel, Nov 27 2013, 06:37 PM.
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| Vixy | Nov 27 2013, 06:39 PM Post #11 |
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Not the shot? |
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| The Iron Rebel | Nov 27 2013, 07:07 PM Post #12 |
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Only on tuesdays |
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| Campinia | Nov 27 2013, 07:15 PM Post #13 |
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I already said that
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| Horse on Fire | Nov 27 2013, 07:27 PM Post #14 |
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Did you?
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Nov 27 2013, 08:53 PM Post #15 |
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Yeah, Chinas claims are pretty bull too. ![]() They basically claim all of the South Asian Sea right up until the borders of the South East Asian countries. It's ridiculously greedy
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| Horse on Fire | Nov 27 2013, 09:45 PM Post #16 |
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That's because China is a nation of supreme people who think Chinese are better than Koreans and Japanese. That's the bull. |
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Nov 27 2013, 09:58 PM Post #17 |
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I don't think that's true. Historically, Japan has really had it's way with China and there is resentment over that fact and the fact that the Japanese have never really owned up to their war crimes. It's still something they look at with almost pride. I believe that the Chinese are a bit more of the opposite, humble but very keen on improving their country. China is currently going through economic difficulties and are relaxing policies such as the one child policy as well as going on a new economic initiative. |
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| Bran Triune | Nov 28 2013, 12:41 AM Post #18 |
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China has historically had a bit of an inferiority complex, possibly due to the actions of the U.K and Japan. I don't think they have an air of superiority, but they (generally speaking) can kinda lose their shit when they think they're being disrespected. |
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| ♥ Rach ♥ | Nov 28 2013, 01:10 AM Post #19 |
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Yeah, exactly that. They've had an inferiority complex for a long long time. It was similar when the Mongols had invaded China and established one of the dynasties. |
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| Horse on Fire | Nov 28 2013, 08:25 AM Post #20 |
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Oooooooh....... Those Mongols.... |
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| Vixy | Nov 30 2013, 06:14 AM Post #21 |
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the true problem with the old china and the west was that we could not humiliate it. the masses did never learn about their loss and their pride did remain strong, so the western leaders never got the chinese submission as they wished. but that was off topic. concerning the B-52 patrol, and similar acts done by south-korea and Japan have China now answered by sending their own military aircraft into the area for patrols. |
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| warkeeper | Nov 30 2013, 01:45 PM Post #22 |
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It's kinda a matter of balancing what the world demands us to do, what the world wants us to do, and following international law (That in a majority of the cases we placed into effect and the UN/NATO enforces it). Usually it goes in this order. The world wants to interfere in the name of there interests and not our own, saying "You're a superpower, you need to look after the world". When we do interfere we go in, set up a new government or reinforce the current, bring peace or atleast stability to the area. The world complains about the cost of peace and/or stability, saying that it's too great and that they never wanted us to interfere and we overstepped our boundaries and as a superpower we should know better then that. Then the next time theres an incident and they clamor for us to interfere we don't, knowing full well the world will criticize our way to do it even though its the most effective. The UN doesn't do anything or does very little without our support, for whatever reason they may find. Something bad happens and the US gets blamed for not doing anything, and then we spend the net decade getting chastised for it. Bosnia was a good example of this, where just the year before the UN was chastising us for the Somalia conflict, so we didn't give any support to the UN for the conflict knowing we couldn't suffer any bad PR at the moment and we were gearing up for desert storm. The UN sent in a coalition of ~7,000 troops (To my memory, so correct me if I'm wrong) to maintain peace in a region where three armies numbering in the hundreds of thousands where running amok. When the soldiers where butchered (As they were given the order not to fire, and where given empty magazines so they appeared to have real weapons but didn't as to avoid the "possibility" of shooting a civilian on accident) there was an international outcry and the blame was placed on the US instead of the horrible inefficiencies of the UN coalition. Just my perspective of this by the way >.> I'm not saying its fact as it's far from it. Edited by warkeeper, Nov 30 2013, 01:46 PM.
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| Thors Varyag | Nov 30 2013, 02:17 PM Post #23 |
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A bit off topic, but how can the states have been gearing up for Desert Storm after Somalia and before Bosnia? Somalia was '93, Desert Storm was '91..... A great number of countries claim what isnt theirs and violate international treaty. Argentina has been doing it for near 30 years. Spain has been doing it recently. Russia started back up with it's long range bomber patrols around British airspace a few years back. The international community doesn't care. The number of times we help out the US or the world, we get left to it. This issue is, where, the South China Sea? Europe and the States needn't get involved. The countries in the area are all grown ups. Japan has the most advanced self defense force in the world. The Aussies have never really been slackers. Europe and the States aren't the world's policemen. We need to stop acting like we are. Plus, if I recall correctly, it would be hard to slap UN sanctions on China. I think they have the power of veto. But if they don't, the Russians do |
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| 34625197 | Nov 30 2013, 02:32 PM Post #24 |
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That reason would be the Security Council Veto. Its the same reason the UN does very little without the support of UK, France, Russia and China. So for the most part the UN doesn't do much of anything. |
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| warkeeper | Nov 30 2013, 04:51 PM Post #25 |
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The UN task force was created February of '92, and they asked for our involvement in June of '93. And maybe it wasn't Desert Storm, but it definitively was something along those lines, my memory doesn't serve me very well in this case. The big thing about the "We aren't the worlds policeman" is that we kind of are. Actions speak louder than words and right now, as you said, the UN is just words and nothing more. Nations with nuclear weapons shouldn't be allowed to go around waving there proverbial wang around there side of the world without being checked. |
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