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Topic Started: 26 Jan 2013 - 04:19 (481 Views)
Zdenka
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Keita said he was willing to do it, so I made him World Assembly delegate (WAD). Does anyone else actively want to be delegate? Any thoughts on the method for choosing the delegate? Eventually I want some kind of democratic process here, though for now it's just important that we have someone. :)

Obviously, I trust Keita. I removed the WAD's power to edit the region info because I had a paranoid thought that it would be easy for some other power to seize the delegacy while we're still so small. Since I intend to be an active founder, it wouldn't be more than an annoyance -- but I don't like being annoyed. :P

Any thoughts?
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Andropoland
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The WA Delegate knows how the nations in the region are voting. On the voting page there's a little "Amongst Barrayar residents, voting is currently 1-1 (50% For)." thing. Though, I think the WA Delegate should vote as it wishes, honestly. :P
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You totally ignored my question and everyone has that, not just the WAD :P

I feel that the WAD should act on the best interests of the region which usually corresponds with the region's votes.
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Andropoland
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Or maybe the WA members should elect a better delegate? :P
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Western Isles of Naybra
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Why can't we just leave it up to nomination on the forum and voting by endorsements? Can we make member groups on this forum and only "WA Members" can vote?
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Andropoland
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Because endorsements aren't a very good voting technique. :P
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Keita
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Vote on the forum. After all...we want them here don't we? :P
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Cleverwhatever
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So what have we established?
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Andropoland
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That we disagree with each other? :P
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Western Isles of Naybra
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Agreed.
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Western Isles of Naybra
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Maybe WA Delegate should be appointed by the executive. Don't care for the idea but it is than an idea we can cross out.
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One Direction Isles
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I agree it should just go by whoever has the most endorsements
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Western Isles of Naybra
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That's how it goes now. I say we have WA members vote on the forum for WA Delegate. Whoever wins gets the endorsements. We coul make the poll password restricted and telegram WA nations the password. Would change ever poll.
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Andropoland
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One reasons I don't think voting by endorsements would work is that everyone should endorse the delegate, not just people who support him. So holding voting by endorsements would mean that the Delegate isn't being completely endorsed, which is bad.

I agree that the WA Delegate should be elected by all of the WA members in the region, but there are too many holes with using endorsements for that. I say we hold sign-ups on the forums, and then just have a neutral party telegram all of the nations in the region telling them to telegram them back to vote. The telegram will include a list of all the nations running, their views on the WA and their regional political affiliation. Of course, campaigning will be allowed on the RMB and by telegramming nations in the region, so if people don't know where you stand that's your own fault for not letting them know. :P
Edited by Andropoland, 28 Jan 2013 - 02:55.
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One Direction Isles
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good point, they could have some kind of election and we could all say our pros and cons of each person though a board or something, and who ever wants the WA DELEGATE has to run for it?? possibly
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Western Isles of Naybra
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Who would be this "neutral party". Also, I don't want the RMB filled with tons of campaigning. I think we agreed on "We want it to be voted by WA members" and "voting is on the forum". Just for future reference 😉.
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Andropoland
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We never agreed on "Voting is on the forums". I'm still against it. :P

Really, anyone who can be trusted. A puppet nation being shared among multiple people would be best.
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One Direction Isles
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agreed
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Western Isles of Naybra
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Agreed with shared puppet nation
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Zdenka
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I am not happy with the idea of campaigning by telegram. People have the right to go about their business without being spammed by something that is only in one person's interest. I am dubious about RMB campaigning. It seems like it could lead to a lot of arguing back and forth, people calling each other names . . . not the impression we want to give, I don't think.

Since I'm automatically disqualified as WAD by virtue of being founder, and I honestly don't care who does it, it might make sense to have me compile the votes. It doesn't have to be me, though. :) Any trustworthy and neutral person who isn't running in that election could do it.

The idea behind using a shared nation is that multiple people can see the votes and there's no cheating, right? But if you log into a nation, you can delete telegrams with no sign they were there. Presumably the vote-counters wouldn't do that, any more than a single vote-tallier would. I'm just not sure the shared nation method is as foolproof as it seemed at first glance.
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Andropoland
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As long as everybody with access to that nation can be trusted, of course. Like myself, you and Keita. Well, Keita as long as he isn't running again. :P

I could just do it if you all trust me enough, as I'm not running.

As for the campaigning bit, why not? It'll get inactive players more interested in regional politics. So what if they're a little annoyed, I get excited whenever I see a new telegram in my inbox. I'm sure nobody would mind, and we could always just have a "No Soliciting" sign-up on the forums somewhere. :P

And as for the RMB, same goes. Strong campaigning boosts activity. And I don't believe it's any more likely to end in fights there than on the forums.
Edited by Andropoland, 28 Jan 2013 - 06:21.
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