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Astrological examples
Topic Started: Sep 21 2015, 04:34 PM (415 Views)
Merlot Blanc
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Hey Nena, this is some reading for you:

Here is the Ptolemaic universe, which is a big background of western astrological thought

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Most of his philosophy rests upon the belief that planetary influences derive from the planets' relationship with the Sun (the source of heat and light) and the Earth (the source of moisture). In this way the Moon is regarded as a 'cool and moist' planet because it lacks the warmth of the Sun and lies in the proximity of the Earth. Saturn is 'cold and dry' because it is furthest from the warmth of the Sun and, again, from the moisture of the Earth. Planetary characteristics are defined by these humoural temperaments where, as in nature, warmth and moisture promote health and vitality whilst cold and dryness are conducive to decay. Hence Saturn becomes the principal agent of destruction and death; the 'Greater Malefic'.

-Life and Work of Ptolemy, Deborah Houlding


Here is Ptolemy's words directly:


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THE Sun 2 is found to produce heat and moderate dryness. His magnitude, and the changes which he so evidently makes in the seasons, render his power more plainly perceptible than that of the other heavenly bodies; since his approach to the zenith of any part of the earth creates a greater degree of heat in that part and proportionately disposes its inhabitants after his own nature.

The Moon principally generates moisture; her proximity to the earth renders her highly capable of exciting damp vapours, and of thus operating sensibly upon animal bodies by relaxation and putrefaction. She has, however, also a moderate share in the production of heat, in consequence of the illumination she receives from the Sun.

Saturn produces cold and dryness, for he is most remote both from the Sun's heat and from the earth's vapours. But he is more effective in the production of cold than of dryness. And he and the rest of the planets derive their energy from the positions which they hold with regard to the Sun and Moon; and they are all seen to alter the constitution of the Ambient in various ways.

Mars chiefly causes dryness, and is also strongly heating, by means of his own fiery nature, which is indicated by his colour, and in con-sequence of his vicinity to the Sun; the sphere of which is immediately below him.

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Jupiter revolves in an intermediate sphere between the extreme cold of Saturn and the burning heat of Mars, and has consequently a temperate influence: he therefore at once promotes both warmth and moisture. But, owing to the spheres of Mars and the Sun, which lie beneath him, his warmth is predominant: and hence he produces fertilizing breezes.

To Venus also the same temperate quality belongs, although it exists conversely; since the heat she produces by her vicinity to the Sun is not so great as the moisture which she generates by the magnitude of her light, and by appropriating to herself the moist vapours of the earth, in the same manner that the Moon does.

Mercury sometimes produces dryness, and at other times moisture, and each with equal vigour. His faculty of absorbing moisture and creating dryness proceeds from his situation with regard to the Sun, from which he is at no time far distant in longitude; and, on the other hand, he produces moisture, because he borders upon the Moon's sphere, which is nearest to the earth; and, being thus excited by the velocity of his motion with the Sun, he consequently operates rapid changes tending to produce alternately either quality.

Tetrabiblos, Ptolemy CHAPTER IV THE INFLUENCES OF THE PLANETARY ORBS. Translated by J.M. Ashmand. Taken from sacredtexts.com


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OF the four temperaments or qualities above mentioned, two are nutritive and prolific, viz. heat and moisture; by these all matter coalesces and is nourished: the other two are noxious and destructive, viz. dryness and cold; by these all matter is decayed and dissipated.

Therefore, two of the planets, on account of their temperate quality, and because heat and moisture are predominant in them, are considered by the ancients as benefic, or causers of good: these are Jupiter and Venus. And the Moon also is so considered for the same reasons.

But Saturn and Mars are esteemed of a contrary nature, and malefic, or causers of evil: the first from his excess of cold, the other from his excess of dryness.

The Sun and Mercury are deemed of common influence, and productive either of good or evil in unison with whatever planets they may be connected with.

Tetrabiblos, Ptolemy, CHAPTER V BENEFICS AND MALEFICS Translated by J.M. Ashmand. same source above.




Wikipedia entry on four humors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_temperaments
Planetary joys: http://www.hellenisticastrology.com/the-planetary-joys.pdf
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Also Nena if you read this you're good to go!
Valens is a major source in Astrology. You'll learn a lot of the basics.

Vettius Valens Anthology: http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius%20Valens%20entire.pdf
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Zack
Sep 23 2015, 06:38 PM
im a leo i like cats
I knew you were a furry
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Hmm

I was reading more on astrology, humors, and the nature of things, and I come across a topic that looks interesting :squee:
Jupiter is masculine, diurnal, hot and moist, airy, sanguine. When it is well dignified in a sign, it gets to express itself naturally. Since Jupiter is sanguine, he is jolly and pleasure seeking. When placed in a supportive sign, he acts according to his true nature. When is placed poorly in a sign like Capricorn ( melancholic by nature) Jupiter becomes very uncomfortable and unable to act properly.

Jupiter well placed: happy, modest, and self-satisfaction/inner content
Poorly placed: exaggerated sense of needing control to feel happy, needing material belongings to feel secure or safe, need external validation or fortify themselves.

So which seems better to you? The ambitious person who manages to build a business empire but will always feel a nagging sense of self doubt within himself? Or the happy person who is content living in a modest home and has a job good enough to pay for his/her expenses?
From an outsider view of course.

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