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Topic Started: Oct 23 2012, 05:54 PM (1,143 Views)
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Broken Clock: kirbyviper
Clockstopper: Paperblade
Dance of Thorns: Manix
Derse Dreamers: Nags/Mancer
Elevatorstuck: Bizz/Levity
English: Keltik
Explore: Whispy
Flare: Aere
Infinity Mechanism: Iris
Made of Time: Nights/MrGuy
Remember Me: Tables/sub
Rust Servant: eclipse
Upward Movement: scorri

I've been told that replacing Nags and Tables would make this list perfect
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
(and the smart observant people would probably be able to figure out my two buddies)

so yeah, questions as to our night actions and such you can throw at me, because I'm the main source of that
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ALSO FUCKING DERSE NEEDS A FUCKING LOGIC CHECK
FUCKING WOW
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Music post for posterity
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ps: scum ain't winning this game because we have two inactives >_>

great scumteam I got to deal with >_>
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oh oh oh did anyone figure out who the SK was

I think it might be RM personally (he said I might be the SK, trying to divert attention?)
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also town I'm doing you a favor by killing Dense tonight

he's technically a clear anyway

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Scum actions from memory: (*snip* indicates an unknown scum player because I don't want to spoil anything)
N1
Tailor Upward Movement as BAND Mayor Variant (failed)
Rolefind Iron Knight (Town Tracker)
Roleblock Atomyk Ebonpyre
Watch Rust Servant (Another Jungle visited)
Sending Descend to kill Another Jungle (ninja)

N2
Tailor Skaian Skirmish as UPRISING Watcher
Watch Flare (No visits)
Roleblock Iron Knight
Rolefind Rust Servant (Town Roleblocker)
Sending *snip* to kill Atomyk Ebonpyre

N3
Roleblock Iron Knight
Rolefind Explore (Town Rally Starter)
Kidnap Rust Servant
Tailor Dance of Thorns as UPRISING Forensic Investigator
Sending *snip* to kill Elevatorstuck

N4
Kidnap Clockstopper
Roleblock Elevatorstuck
Rolefind Upward Movement (failed)
Sending *snip* to kill Iron Knight

N5
Roleblock Remember Me
Rolefind Broken Clock
Sending *snip* to kill Derse Dreamers
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Derse, if you ever read this, you are completely stupid. Let me explain in very careful detail.

First off, required reading.

Things to note:
Mafia always has outside contact. Otherwise it's completely unfair on them. They do not need a spy to communicate.

If you don't need to know something about someone's role (only important for inconsistencies), then DO NOT pry. See lesson six.

Uncounterclaimed cop is legit because scumcop WOULD NOT OUT/would have outed pretty quickly. You know that there are two cops because of your claimed N3 result. Stop fucking tunneling on a bullshit reason.

As voyeur/whatever the crap you are, if it isn't explicitly stated what happened to the person, never ever assume certain roles. (See D3 argument).

You have made so many assumptions about roles that it is no longer funny. If you keep thinking that your rolespec is the only way to play, then reconsider your playstyle very quickly.

Please tell me how Elevator has been scummy outside of your blatantly wrong rolespec. I'll wait.
...oh wait, you can't because of two things:
1) Elevator has been acting pro-town the ENTIRE fucking game
2) You never really scumhunted all game

STOP TUNNELING, and STOP BEING STUBBORN
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE WRONG

Scum lie about their roles. Like I did. You then need to consider how much of it I completely faked (see doctor shot claim), what I may have partly faked (forensic result, see that I knew the Descend took the ninja kill and wouldn't appear on that report), or what I actually could do myself/get a buddy to do it for me (inspect/roleblock). Using that can lead to inconsistencies which then you can call out.

Also, once more with feeling: townies generally do not lie about being roleblocked. Also, since no one else counterclaimed being roleblocked on N4/D5, don't you kinda think that's legit, given that we both said that Rust Servant was Town Roleblocker (hence only one roleblock is possible).

Actual scumhunting instead of rolespeccing would be much better. See lessons three and four.

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Oct 23 2012, 09:28 PM

N5
Roleblock Remember Me
Rolefind Broken Clock
Sending *snip* to kill Derse Dreamers


swap the roleblock and rolefind around, I just changed it
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MANCER WHYYYYYYY

I feel bad for you but I ALSO FEEL LIKE GIGGLING SO BAD RIGHT NOWWWWW
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Okay Derse, I'm really getting fed up here.

"STOP TUNNELING, and STOP BEING STUBBORN
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE WRONG"

still relevant

also why did I suddenly get a free pass for my swearing while Elevator has to deal with this shit

And about your concrete arguments: NOTHING CAN BE CONCRETE barring mod told info (see oracle, your night results, etc)

AND LEARN TO DEAL WITH CLAIMS PROPERLY
uncounterclaimed cop: and people confirming, chances are that they are COMPLETELY LEGIT HOLY FUCK

also there is nothing to respond to because you are literally being stubborn about your completely blown out of proportion "claims" about Elevator.

"I'm now going to look at the other members and relook at the reports I have gotten. I just got home too, so I'll be taking a bath before my in-depth lookthrough. While I agree that theorising isn't a really good thing to do in Mafia, it does offer some insights into the actions of some of the members, and after some flips and stuffs are revealed, several of the theories might end up being proven probable and true, so I think that theorising is not all that bad. I'll theory less next time though."

Not next time. NOW. This isn't helping anyone at all. You only worry about night actions when it is relevant (lategame or on someone's claim as they are about to be lynched)

"Also, would Band have their factional kill if Maurice is dead? And what happens if the Serial Killer is deliberately not posting in the Day and Night, but still responding to Night actions in order to feign inactivity and thus not be on the suspect list? I think that might be possible, albeit frowned on. Or is there a rule against this in the Mafia?""

Holy newb vibe I cannot tell you how you very fucking wrong this is
lurkscum exist

and thank you Elevator for proving the point about swearing
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How to win the night phase
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In other news
Derse is completely shut down
and misses the point that is being made

I'm sure you can make the logical conclusions
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Oh yeah, another thing about playing mafia (follow on from previous post)

HYPOCRISY IS NOT OKAY
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"Guys, thoughts on what Dance has said? He was proven Maurice, so what he said then can be used as actual facts and testimonies."

SCUM LIES YOU FUCKING DOLT
IT'S PART OF THEIR MO
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This also encapsulates what I'm talking about
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[11:29] <Manix> >killing Derse so town doesn't have to put up with him
[11:29] <timaeusTestified> :P
[11:29] <Manix> seriously
[11:29] <timaeusTestified> how generous
[11:29] <Manix> I know right?
[11:29] <timaeusTestified> even when dead Maurice Cohn is so classy to his enemies
[11:29] <Manix> You know it :P
[11:30] <timaeusTestified> flavor makes it funnier but
[11:30] <timaeusTestified> eh I can't say much more than that
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Oh by the by Derse, don't reply, just read. Trying to argue it out will not get you anywhere. See:

Quote:
 
STOP BEING STUBBORN
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE WRONG

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Also sorry for the swearing if you do read this Derse, but that said, I post on impulse when I don't have to worry about anything. Anything I feel will be put into words, so yeah you're just going to have to deal with it.

I honestly didn't like your play this game because of everything I've already said. If you can get past the swearing, I think there's a lot to be learnt from what I've put here. And postgame will also give you some insight as to how to improve.
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Other random side note: You do not know spam until you have met me and/or Blitz.

>mfw when Chao was worried about quintuple posting

(reference: 10 straight posts wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)
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This episode of ranting and raving brought to you by Milk of Romnesia:

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Milk of Romnesia: for when you want to forget...that thing...you wanted to forget...which was what again?
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how to: fail reading comp 101

see Night 5, then Prelude
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Guys you are making me sad

Look at this post
This was on D5
yesterday => D4
=>kill attempt was on N3

guys
guys
come on
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and now they figure it out.

And I'm hooking BC anyway for funsies
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Here let me help you with that
Quote:
 
Maurice Cohn paced in his office. There was very little time to act. Threats had been made earlier in the day- Charlie had made his presence and mission known, and a startling number of people agreed with him. That wasn't even counting the more subtle one he had received... Approaching the intercom, he paused for a moment in consideration before pressing the appropriate button.

"Attention," he announced smoothly, "to the students that I have previously contacted. There is a mandatory meeting in one hour in my office. That will be all."

Surely enough, at the arrived time, they had assembled themselves. All except...
"Where is Juliette?" Maurice asked with a bit of surprise. "She's not the type to put these things off."
"She is now," one of the students mentioned. "Doesn't want anything to do with you anymore. Thinks Charlie has the right idea."
Maurice frowned at the news. "I suppose we'll have to do without her. It's fortunate she decided to leave sooner rather than later, at least. Wouldn't want her to learn of what we must do.
Charlie has made his move, as has the other man. Hunter, I believe it was. Both of them pose a danger to us- Charlie has become more about control, and Hunter's mission to rid the school of everyone will obviously not bode well. We have very little time, but now we must put our own plan into motion..."


look at the bold
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oh this reminds me of another good tip (which is also a good summary of everything)

Don't post until you know what you're saying. Don't just post for the sake of posting (unless you're me in Trainwreck but that's an isolated case). If there is something you can't find/don't know, don't post it. (See; rolespec)
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OMG SO MUCH WIN IN THIS POST
although he isn't going to be alive to hunt tomorrow 8)
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Poor little Denseā„¢ Dreamers.
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Lol. I'm placing my bet on Elevator as SK for now.

The thing is, there was a clear contradiction with what Elevator claimed. How did she even survive that Mafia kill in the first place without any Doctors or protecting roles. No Town RoleBlocker that Night either. Also, Elevator said she knew who the Town RoleBlocker was but she didn't say who it was until you claimed Rust Servant was the Town RoleBlocker (I kinda just realised this now). This means she does not have to be a RoleCop to know Rust Servant's alignment anymore.

The only thing I have is that when I tried to ask Elevatorstuck about that contradiction, she avoided the question and you guys helped her out of what could have been a tight position for her.


Yes, I realise role speccing may not be the best way to Mafia, and I'm willing to change that. I do realise when I'm not really doing things the right way. Usage of vulgarities is something I will not stand for though. I believe no matter how frustrated or angry a person can get, vulgarities is not something you can use without consequence, especially the F-word. I've been posting my points civilly without any usage of harsh language or vilgarities at all, so I don't see why Elevator has to F me all over the place. I didn't get on you because you only used it once and it wasn't even a major vulgarity at all.
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fuck you derse
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