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Dear Elevator; Read this when you're dead
Topic Started: Oct 29 2012, 12:54 AM (799 Views)
Derse Dreamers
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if people are insulting anyone in the graveyard right now you literally need to fucking stop

The jabs at peoples' intelligence going on right now is really getting out of hand. Look, I know I didn't play my best or whatever and I know not everyone did but that doesn't give you guys the right to flip out at people and call them stupid, retarded, or dense or whatever. I know I didn't help but most of what I said was in jest or in most part because people were being uncooperative. Don't call out people for defending me. Even if I was obvious to you, it isn't the same to other people. Everyone plays/thinks differently and that doesn't mean that they suck. Please just stop. Me and an unspecified number of people I'm not going to name are quitting mafia because this level of assholery is atrocious.


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That didn't stop you from calling me dense, stupid or F***.
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Or even calling me stupid, for that matter.
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Atomyk Ebonpyre
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ur gay
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Atomyk Ebonpyre
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FUCKING gay, even

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^ u
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For pointing out a hypocritical statement? Whatever =D
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I sign on to IRC for the first time in ~24 hours. I haven't had any internet, so I have no clue what's happened. Before I even check *anything* even personal email or Facebook or anything, I receive the following:
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<Paperblade> welcome to die
<Paperblade> population: you
<scorri> *shrug*
<scorri> busy
<Paperblade> also fuck you for defending elevatorstuck
<Paperblade> okay that's a little harsh
<Paperblade> but seriously

I then log in to find that I had died, not from getting lynched but from getting RNG'd modkilled. Great, fine, whatever. That sucks and it makes me mad, but whatever I can deal. I then go to the graveyard and find the following quotes.
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I actually thought scorri was elevator all game because of all the useless spam posts

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Watching scorri blow this is painful to watch, she's sucking so hard that it's throwing off eclipse

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yeah it's painful


So lets see. I get sworn at when I have literally no clue what's going on, I then find out I got modkilled for something that's not my fault, and then I appear to find that I all I do apparently is spam post, suck so hard that it throws off other people, and am painful to watch. Plus, everyone is screaming at the town for not lynching cc's and yet conveniently ignore the fact that I had multiple times suggested that in thread and everytime was told "Oh no, that's stupid why would you even suggest such a horrible thing?" because apparently all I do is crappy play. So yeah. Let me know how you'd feel in my shoes. In game is different. In game people both purposely play with emotions but also they joke around, say things to get reactions from people, and get frustrated when they think they're getting ignored. This was mostly unbiased subjective *judging of me* and is completely different from what Elevator did in game.
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Also this is probably the last time I will be posting in the graveyard because I don't want to deal with this game anymore. I'll probably keep tabs on what's going on, but beyond that I don't even care. Have fun judging how crappy my game play is.
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Oh right. Here's some more.

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I actually thought scorri was elevator all game because of all the useless spam posts


welcome to early scumteam thoughts


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yeah everybody alive on d6 who was aligned with town except jalmont was acting 100% retarded

Not directly at me, but does in fact include me.

So right. There were maybe one or two other things, but the point remains. In thread = usually not personal and not an attack on you. After death/in graveyard/in PM = personal attack/judging of your style and your ability to play. There's a difference.
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Relax, Scorri. I'm sure all those comments are the other players joking around. I don't think they meant any harm in what they said.

I agree though, that sometimes, they can get rather harsh.
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No, screw that. It's not joking around. It's really not.
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Derse Dreamers
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Really..?
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They're serious enough. When at least one of them takes the effort to PM you as soon as you appear on IRC, I'm pretty sure they're serious.
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Why would they be so harsh, though? I don't think your Mafia-ing was that bad. In fact, mine is worse and they only have that thing where they deliberately use vulgarities to annoy me on forums (only on the Choral Graveyard anyway).
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clarity on the first quote in the second quote post: we thought scorri was elevator just because of posting style and not content or anything like that (ie: I didn't intend on my statement being inflammatory)

anyway I've already done what I needed to to attempt to make amends, so peace out
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>Still saying that my posts are useless spam posts.
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Atomyk Ebonpyre
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was acting retarded =/= is retarded

the whole town blew it and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. i don't think you blew it more than anybody else at least.

i dunno what to say about the useless spam posts since i thought you were arora and very obviously not levity :T
Edited by Atomyk Ebonpyre, Oct 29 2012, 01:47 PM.
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idk if you're still reading this but I just wanted to yell at someone who had been alive during D6 and was town

and you were the only one that I could
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Yelled at me, called out me specifically for having such crappy play that it was painful to watch and it was screwing up other people in a place that I may or may not have seen eventually because there was no way for you to know if I would read through the whole graveyard, called my standard play a bunch of spam posts once again in a place that I may or may not have seen... Yeah, I'm not really sure how I'm not supposed to take this personally actually. I'm still planning on hosting my mafias when becomes their turn and I might play again after a bit, but not right now. Only reason I'm not subbing out of Prims mafia is because I don't feel like this is a valid excuse and respect him too much to do that to him.
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Yeah you jumped to Elevator's defense fsr, I thought that was dumb

also I called you scummy all game when I was alive for making useless posts how is it only offensive now?
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do you want the logs of me complaining about Aere and eclipse and the rest of the fucking town to Rein
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Also those posts were made early in D6 when you were the only town that was HARDCORE DEFENDING elevator, late D6 and N6 they all jumped onto that wagon and it really annoys me.

Like the thing that bothered me what you did was that Explore and Rust seemed willing to believe IM but wanted to lynch you fsr (which is completely idiotic I don't care how scummy you are you aren't a cop CC), and then suddenly IM becomes confirmed scum somehow from the English flip (this is like the biggest leap in logic) and him getting emotional is scummy even though eclipse always feels the need to say emotion isn't a scumtell.

And Aere literally does nothing to the point where you could argue him as mafia MVP

tldr it's a game people complaining about you playing bad

also logs

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Thank you for completely ignoring my point.
>Calling me useless in game is to my face and *in game* That's part of the game. You found the posts I was making scummy and so called me out on it.
>Calling me useless and saying that someone who is posting all "spam posts" must me be and saying that I'm painful to watch *behind my back* essentially is something completely different. I don't care who else you complained about. I honestly don't. They might, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you essentially called me useless and a horrible mafia player in this game in a place where you had no reason to be sure that I would see it. That's personal attacks behind my back and I'm not ok with that. You stated that my playing style is posting useless spam posts, said I was painful to watch, and then yelled at me for no good reason when I had literally just gained access to the internet for the first time in ~24 hours without giving me a chance to see what had happened. And don't say that you didn't have any way of knowing I hadn't been online. You could have seen by when I was last active that there was no way of me seeing it before then. So yeah. In game attacks are one thing. Outside of the game *personal* *behind my back* attacks are completely different.
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Uh the graveyard always opens up after the game ends so there was a 100% chance you could see it if you wanted to

edit: I even made a topic dedicated to yelling at the town who were alive D6 so yeah I kind of expected people to see these posts.
Edited by Clockstopper, Oct 29 2012, 08:09 PM.
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Also if you really care so much about how good of a mafia player people think you are you could try to get better instead of whining about how people are being mean to you.
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Oh I'm sorry. Clearly you are completely 100% justified in insulting people like this just because they have the ability to see it. Clearly you are always right in what you do and it doesn't matter how it affects other people because you intend them to see it. Clearly I should just put my personal feelings aside and just accept that you are always right and never wrong and since I did something that you disagree with that means that I'm just a horrible mafia player. Thank you oh so much for showing me the light. I don't know how I could have possibly played mafia before this. [/sarcasm]

And with that, I'm done. Goodbye all.
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Yeah that's exactly what I said
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You probably won't read this but you need to understand that mafia is a game where tensions run high and sometimes people say things they don't really mean (or do mean but say it in a way that's much harsher than it should be)
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Tensions being high is not a reason or excuse for saying things that are harsher than you mean to be. This is especially so if you're doing so in a place where tensions are intrinsically high.

You're not taking Scorri's feelings into account here, or anyone for that matter. You feel tensed, sure, but I'm sure Scorri is feeling as tensed up about it as well. What gives you the right to start insulting him first? If he's tense, should he then start making personal attacks and insulting all of you back too? Is that what you mean?

I find all the insults against Scorri uncalled for. He plays decently, in the few times I've seen him Mafia. He definitely does not deserve this attitude.

SF is definitely a home to people with overly harsh attitudes who do not think about the implications of whatever they say or post.
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FUCK♂YOU
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I see you pushing
lynches on my playerslot
and I'm like, FUCK YOU
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