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Understanding where Anti-Cloti comes from
Topic Started: 14 May 2014 - 05:31 (370 Views)
Enigma
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I got so off topic -.- I'm sorry guys...
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I agree that Tifa was the most discerning of Aerith's true feelings, temperament and aspirations. According to psychology women are more adapt at understanding emotional cues through body language, tone of voice and social intuition. This is definitely a female friendship thing :) perhaps we could start a Tifa and Aerith frienship in Canon thread.
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Yes we should! Tifa and Aerith had a wonderful friendship...I'm sad it wasn't expanded upon more.

Some people are so anti-cloti they say that Tifa was happy Aerith died. Like...did you not have Tifa in the party when she died?? (I bet not) and did they not even read CoT when Tifa shows great GUILT over Aerith's death? Or her warm smile at realizing Aerith is still there in ACC?
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Fine I'll start it! Aerti can have their fix finally and appreciation for platonic friendships in ff7 which is just as important as romance recognized. I ship Aerith and Tifa as having a squish on eachother :wave: :heart:
Edited by Splash, 24 May 2014 - 02:44.
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Hmm.. I feel like you wouldn't feel the need to be Anti-Cloti if you didn't feel threatened by the fanbase or Cloti "evidence" etc. The same goes for Anti-Clerith. I don't know about you, but I've mostly seen Anti-Cloti banners, videos, edits and such through the years.
Edited by bolina, 30 May 2014 - 07:06.
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tbh I've seen both, but this one time there was an actual Anti Cloti Forum around /: . there's also an anti cloti fanlisting. It's like do you hate the ship THAT MUCH that you need to dedicate a fanlisting/forum to it? Like okay I get it bc I used to have an anti character forum (in like 8th grade lol) and I used to post on an Anti Twilight Forum. But it seemed people used 'anti cloti' to mean 'anti cloti fans'. And tbh I see far more hate for Cloti on tumblr... then again it seems to be the same users posting the hate so maybe it's not as prominent as I think.
Edited by Godoka, 30 May 2014 - 13:46.
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Yeah, haha. They could dedicate their time talking and enjoying a ship that they actually LIKE instead??? I don't get it. :sweat: Or.. they could at least discuss it in a mature way.

I've seen the hate too. It's destroying the tags. :feels: The best way to not get so worked up over it is to basically avoid the tags, which is a shame.

Ok Anti-Twilight is understandable
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Well there is this place for a safe haven. Alot of things are allowed here, but you aren't allowed to dedicate this to hating a club. Like, there are clerith clubs around, but no anti-clerith club is allowed.

Feel free to voice your opinions here in the venting threads :3
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Right! I see no point in having an anti clerith club? If you hate the ship go somewhere else bc we are mostly here to have fun shipping cloti and get to know each other. <:
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30 May 2014 - 13:44
tbh I've seen both, but this one time there was an actual Anti Cloti Forum around /: . there's also an anti cloti fanlisting. It's like do you hate the ship THAT MUCH that you need to dedicate a fanlisting/forum to it? Like okay I get it bc I used to have an anti character forum (in like 8th grade lol) and I used to post on an Anti Twilight Forum. But it seemed people used 'anti cloti' to mean 'anti cloti fans'. And tbh I see far more hate for Cloti on tumblr... then again it seems to be the same users posting the hate so maybe it's not as prominent as I think.
Yeah that's how I would group anti stuff, because how else would one demonstrate an antagonistic attitude towards a pairing and obscuring their interactions without being public and overt about it? ( that is thru anti fanlistings, forums, tumblr rants dissing the couple).

Idk if you had returned here before seeing the essay when I first posted it but it was quickly interpreted that Clerith=Anti cloti which is logically false. No no no nooooo anti stuff is another ballgame.

I need venn diagrams to explain this but many ppl (as evident here) can be clerith without being anti cloti, but they can overlappp, think middle part of venn diagram. Unfortunately the middle parters are very vocal on the internet giving the normal cleriths a bad rep. But it makes sense, if you absolutely cannot let cloud be in love with anyone, anyone at all after aeriths death and you happen to hate tifa and also anything she and her fake boobs do with cloud-guess wat theres a perfect breeding ground for that hate you see on tumblr.

By anticlotifans do you mean ppl who diss cloti shippers as in the PEOPLE who like the pairing as being stupid rabid delusonal dumb and illogical? I believe thats called a Strawman fallacy ( or scarecrow argument sommat like that) which is a logical error. Instead of attacking the argument you attack the person along the belief that if I make the person look stupid it will make their argument look stupid. So imagine a prep kid who is upset when friend tells them Santa isnt real and they react with "well you smell!" ...Ala Clotis are insane.

But in all honesty and humour here my appropriate analogy for who is mad and rabid versus who isnt...

:wtf: lol
Anti-Cloti poster: But I don't want to be around MAD people! ( those crazy cloti batshit shippers)
Me: "you can't help it, everyone here is mad. I'm mad ,you're mad it's just by chance and careful planning if you're not" ...
Anti-Cloti poster: :stop: How do you know I'm mad ?!
Me: " because you're here, and everyone here is MAD"
Anti-Cloti poster: But I don't want to be around mad people ( crazy cloti batshit shippers)
Entire FF7 shipping community: "It's always tea time here".
Edited by Splash, 31 May 2014 - 00:06.
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