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Statement regarding The South Pacific coup
Topic Started: Apr 22 2013, 09:21 PM (1,330 Views)
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Statement regarding The South Pacific coup
April 22, 2013




This past weekend the feeder region The South Pacific fell into the grasp of a Rogue Delegate. Milograd has taken the power to rule The South Pacific for himself ejection thousands of native nations and incorporated foreign backers to prop his regime up. He has defied the democratic coalition government of The South Pacific for his own personal agenda. New Sorvun knows all to well of such betrayal and we will not stand idly by and let another region succumb to the same fate. New Sorvun shall pledge diplomatic support, and if need be render military aid to The South Pacific to return the delegate seat to the legitimate, governmentally-mandated, democratically-elected individual.

Milograd is not the first to attempt a coup in The South Pacific, and surely is not the first who thinks that just because you have the seat of power in a region that the region is your property and its residents be damned.We must make a stand against Milograd and his kind. Each region determines its own fate, however regions are not playgrounds for its founders and delegates to torment at their whim, and this is why New Sorvun stands a beacon of hope because we will not let anyone threaten our way of life, whether it be raiders or a belligerent founder, we will stand by The South Pacific's side to see order restored, and let it be known that this will not be tolerated anywhere in Nationstates.

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This is the first I've heard of a coup hitting one of the feeder regions. I would think that would be horribly difficult because of how many nations live there. (like 4,000+)
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Well, Milograd was elected legitimately, however he can only do what his government mandates him to do, and Milograd decided to take the law into his own hands and disregard the government's or the people's wishes.
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Apr 22 2013, 09:44 PM
This is the first I've heard of a coup hitting one of the feeder regions. I would think that would be horribly difficult because of how many nations live there. (like 4,000+)
The West Pacific had a similar problem last month but managed to control it.
It's proving to last longer than expected but Milo's influence will soon be too little to even eject anyone. The main lead nation has gotten close but Milo manages to put about a 30 endo gap every update with ejections so expect the region to be freed soon.
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Despite the political issues, any attempt to take the delegacy from the elected Delegate without a Condemnation mentioning this act by the WA Security Council is a raid. As defenders we must practice what we preach. If this happened in a User Created Region, the defender oligarchy, who happen to be mainly feederites, would not be making such a fuss and would condemn the actions being made.
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What?.
Edited by Deckard Christopher, Apr 22 2013, 10:19 PM.
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I am saying that interfering in the internal politics of another region without Security Council reference is a raid. The South Pacific hasn't been invaded by an outside power, it has been couped by the legitimate delegate - this is an internal matter and intervention is only justified if the WA condemns the action.
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Apr 22 2013, 10:14 PM
Despite the political issues, any attempt to take the delegacy from the elected Delegate without a Condemnation mentioning this act by the WA Security Council is a raid. As defenders we must practice what we preach. If this happened in a User Created Region, the defender oligarchy, who happen to be mainly feederites, would not be making such a fuss and would condemn the actions being made.
No its not. If a Delegate goes rogue any attempt to oust them is a liberation regardless of any actions taken in the SC. I also dont know if a nation can have 3 condemnations.
In the event of a rogue, the legitimate government must be supported, which in this instance does not include the Delegate.
For those not in the loop, the leader of the UDL, Solm, convinced Milo to go rogue. Something to think about.
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And so who decides if a Delegate is rogue or not? Just because a handful of people say 'A rogue Delegate is ........' that doesn't make it true.
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Apr 22 2013, 10:37 PM
And so who decides if a Delegate is rogue or not? Just because a handful of people say 'A rogue Delegate is ........' that doesn't make it true.
Going against regional law does.
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Someone breaking regional law does not mean we can go charging in on white horses intervening.
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Apr 22 2013, 10:46 PM
Someone breaking regional law does not mean we can go charging in on white horses intervening.
Generally regions can act on their own with law breakers but when said law breaker is a rogue delegate then things change.
Treaty agreements say we can. The elected government says we can.
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If this delegate is legitimately elected like everyone is saying, then we must stay out of it. This is a straight up civil war that they need to settle themselves.
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Apr 22 2013, 10:57 PM
If this delegate is legitimately elected like everyone is saying, then we must stay out of it. This is a straight up civil war that they need to settle themselves.
When the rogue brings in outside help it's no longer a civil war. I refer you to regions who have a treaty with TSP.
While New Sorvun may not hold one, other regions such as Balder do and have every right to help the region to return to normality.
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How do we know for certain that the Delegate himself sent for the help? Do you have proof?
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