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Amendment VIII. Census and Multiples
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Topic Started: May 10 2013, 12:27 AM (202 Views)
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Post #1
May 10 2013, 12:27 AM
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Likako A. Nehio
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(Sorry for such a delay in this, but we need to keep our convention-train rolling!)
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Amendment VIII. Census and Multiples Author: Likako A. Nehio Submitted: May 9th, 2013
- Recognizing the need for a comprehensive and effective measure in regards to determining and maintaining citizenship;
- Understanding that Article II. Section I. of the Constitution of The Second Republic of New Sorvun fails to meet that need;
- Also noting that Article II. Section I. currently places a risk to regional security in the un-enforceable allowance of multiple accounts under a singular IP address;
- and realizing that both of these issues are best answered by Directives instead of attempting to address it in the Constitution;
- Therefore let it be resolved by the League of Nations that Article II. Section I. of the Constitution of the Second Republic of New Sorvun be amended as follows:
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Section I. Citizenship.The following criteria must be met for an individual to be considered a Citizen of New Sorvun: - The individual must have at least one (1) nation residing in New Sorvun at all times.
- If an individual has more than one nation in New Sorvun, he must provide a full list of all the nations that he has residing in New Sorvun.
2.) The individual must register on the New Sorvun forums and apply for citizenship. a.) An individual is allowed only one (1) forum account per IP address. If an individual is found with multiple forum accounts, all but the one account that was last used will be instantly removed. b.) If there are special circumstances where multiple people use the same IP address, then the issue must be discussed with the Chancellor, and there must be verification that there are actually multiple people using that same IP address. Even so, multiple accounts from the same IP can not participate in the same RP game. Each duplicate must be in a different RP game.
The individual shall gain citizenship in the following manner:
- Register on the New Sorvun forum and submit an application for citizenship
- Submit an application for citizenship to the Delegate of New Sorvun
- To maintain citizenship, citizens must be active on the forums and region.
a.) A Census will be conducted once a month, and unless prior notice was given, if a citizen does not participate in the Census, his citizenship will be suspended and must re-apply for it. b.) If a citizen's nation is moved out of the region, or is deleted due to inactivity, the citizen in question has one (1) week to return at least one (1) nation to New Sorvun. If he does not, his citizenship will be suspended and he must re-apply for it.
- Dual Citizenship is acknowledged by the government of New Sorvun, however in order for the status to be recognized, the individual must state in his citizenship application the other regions he resides in. Any region that is not mentioned as such on the application, New Sorvun will not recognize that individual's citizenship status in those omitted regions, and therefore are subject to possible consequences.
Let it further be resolved upon the passage of this Amendment, that the League of Nations shall be compelled to proposing and eventually passing legislation to address the issues of the Census and Multiple accounts[/list]
For quick reference this is what Article II. Section I. will look like should this amendment pass:
Article II. Section I - Quote:
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Section I. Citizenship.The following criteria must be met for an individual to be considered a Citizen of New Sorvun: - The individual must have at least one (1) nation residing in New Sorvun at all times.
- If an individual has more than one nation in New Sorvun, he must provide a full list of all the nations that he has residing in New Sorvun.
- The individual shall gain citizenship in the following manner:
- Register on the New Sorvun forum and submit an application for citizenship
- Submit an application for citizenship to the Delegate of New Sorvun
- To maintain citizenship, citizens must be active on the forums and region.
- If a citizen's nation is moved out of the region, or is deleted due to inactivity, the citizen in question has one (1) week to return at least one (1) nation to New Sorvun. If he does not, his citizenship will be suspended and he must re-apply for it.
- Dual Citizenship is acknowledged by the government of New Sorvun, however in order for the status to be recognized, the individual must state in his citizenship application the other regions he resides in. Any region that is not mentioned as such on the application, New Sorvun will not recognize that individual's citizenship status in those omitted regions, and therefore are subject to possible consequences.
One thing I added that wasn't discussed in the Convention is Clause II. Part B:
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Submit an application for citizenship to the Delegate of New Sorvun
This is because I am also planning on submitting a proposal that will allow nations that participate solely on the RMB to participate in our government without having to join our forums, so this is a pre-emptive change to save time on a reactionary amendment.
Notice the final bullet point also, should this amendment pass, we must not waste time on replacing it with a comprehensive Directive (or two) that address the issues we removed from the Constitution.
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Post #2
May 10 2013, 11:14 AM
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Tsruhkwah
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Choo! Choo! Full steam ahead!
I can't see any problems with this proposed amendment, and I'm intrigued by your ideas for RMB government so very much looking forward to seeing those. In the event of an alternative piece of census legislation being written it might just be easier for the Interior Minister to remove citizenship from people who haven't been active on the RMB or forum for over a month.
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Post #3
May 10 2013, 05:34 PM
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Deckard Christopher
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I assume that opening this to a Debate Stage is probably not warranted? Go straight to voting?
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Post #4
May 10 2013, 08:42 PM
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Likako A. Nehio
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Your call, Mr. Speaker.
@Tsru: Yeah, while I know most of our activity is on the forum, we shouldn't disregard those who rely solely on the RMB.
As for the legislation for the Census, I'll propose what I had in mind once this has passed.
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- Co-founder and Co-Chair of the Progressive Nationalist Party
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Post #5
May 11 2013, 06:24 AM
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Deckard Christopher
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I would prefer a motion be drafted but in this instance, I wish to establish a ruling precedent on this matter. Any time we have any of these constitutional conventions, the debate takes place during the convention. This then will eliminate the need for a debate stage in the actual League business and will move straight to voting from now on. Any constitutional amendment drafted and proposed outside of any constitutional convention will follow normal protocol. I will change the Rules of Order tomorrow to reflect this change.
That said, I will proceed to move this to a full up or down vote. The voting period lasts three days until May 14, 2013 at 12 noon EST.
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Post #6
May 13 2013, 05:15 AM
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Deckard Christopher
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I would like to remind everyone of the voting. It lasts another day, and if there is no votes, I will have no choice but to fail this amendment. Hurry and come vote folks!
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Post #7
May 13 2013, 10:10 AM
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Tsruhkwah
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Aye.
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Post #8
May 15 2013, 07:15 AM
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Deckard Christopher
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I have let this be ignored rather foolishly. I will extend voting for the duration of May 15th, until 10 pm EST. Again, it is my fault this was ignored.
And though I loathe to vote myself on bills while I am Speaker, I feel compelled to in this case. I vote Yes.
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Post #9
May 17 2013, 05:58 AM
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Deckard Christopher
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This is done, and thus I can announce the Eighth Amendment to the New Sorvun Code of Law has passed with 2 Ayes, 0 Nays, and 0 Abstentions.
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Post #10
May 23 2013, 02:51 AM
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Likako A. Nehio
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With the passage of this amendment, the Constitution has been amended as described by Amendment VIII., and the previous version has been archived here, This topic shall be closed and archived in the Egabian Regional Library.
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