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Directive for Establishing the Census, Banning Multiples and Defining Activity; aka "Regulating Activity Directive"
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Topic Started: May 12 2013, 05:06 AM (643 Views)
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Post #1
May 12 2013, 05:06 AM
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Likako A. Nehio
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As Amendment VIII has now moved to vote, I will save some time by proposing the legislation that Amendment VIII compels us to make in regards to the Census, Multiple Accounts and activity. The latter providing a reinforcing definition of activity that supplements the one in the Executive Line of Succession Directive.
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Regulating Activity Directive Author: Likako A. Nehio Proposed: May 11th, 2013
Article I. The Census Section I. Establishing the Census
- The Lord Chancellor, or an appointed Cabinet member, shall conduct a Census of active citizens and nations in New Sorvun.
- A Census must be conducted at a minimum of once every month.
- The citizens of New Sorvun must be given two weeks notice of an upcoming Census. This notice must be sent to all nations in New Sorvun jurisdiction in the form of telegrams.
- The Census must remain open for one week.
Section II. Census Procedure
- All nations in New Sorvun Jurisdiction must participate in the Census.
- Each nation must indicate whether it is a citizen or an ambassador
- Each nation must indicate all puppets it has in New Sorvun Jurisdiction
- Each nation can submit their Census form either in the appropriate section of the forum, or in a telegram to the Delegate of New Sorvun
- Once the Census closes, there will be one week given for late entries.
- After that week for late entries ends, all nations that are not indicated on the Census form will be ejected from New Sorvun jurisdiction.
- Only ambassadors from regions we established embassies are allowed to remain in New Sorvun Jurisdiction
- New Sorvun Jurisdiction includes the following regions:
- New Sorvun
- New Sorvun Republic
- Sorvun
- Sorvun II
- The Commonwealth of Regions
- The extent of jurisdiction for the Commonwealth of Regions is for the retention of citizenship.
Section III. Retaining Citizenship
- For a citizen to retain citizenship he must:
- Maintain at least one nation in New Sorvun Jurisdiction
- Participate in the Census.
- If a citizen misses one Census, he is given a warning.
- If after the warning he fails to participate in the next Census, his citizenship and all rights granted thereto is revoked.
- If after a third Census the revoked citizen fails to participate, he is ejected from New Sorvun jurisdiction and must re-apply for citizenship
Article II. Multiple Accounts and Fraud
Section I. Defining Multiple Accounts
- Possessing Multiple Accounts is defined as two or more forum accounts that have identical or near-identical IP addresses
- Account Fraud is defined as one individual possessing two citizen accounts in New Sorvun.
- Voter Fraud is defined as one individual utilizing multiple accounts to influence an election ballot, legislation vote, judicial ruling or any process in New Sorvun jurisdiction that involves a vote of some kind.
- Corruption is defined as one individual utilizing multiple accounts to hold multiple positions in New Sorvun government.
Section II. Punishment for Possession of Multiple Accounts and Fraud.
- Possession of Multiple Accounts:
- First Offense: The offender, if found guilty, must choose which account to keep and the other accounts shall be deleted from the forums.
- Second Offense: The offender, if found guilty, shall have all accounts banned from New Sorvun for two weeks (14 days)
- Third Offense: The offender, if found guilty, shall have all accounts banned from New Sorvun and related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for one month (30 days)
- Further Offense: The offender, if found guilty, shall have all accounts banned from New Sorvun and related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction indefinitely.
- Account Fraud:
- First Offense: The offender, if found guilty, must delete all but one account within two weeks of conviction
- If the offender does not comply, the offender will be banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for two weeks (14 days)
- Second Offense: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for one month (30) days
- Third Offense: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for six months (180) days.
- Further Offense: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction indefinitely.
- Voter Fraud:
- First Offense: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for one month (30 days).
- Second Offense: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for six months (180 days).
- Third Offense: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction indefinitely.
- Corruption: The offender, if found guilty, is banned from New Sorvun and all related nations ejected and banned from New Sorvun Jurisdiction for three months (90 days) and is barred from holding any office in New Sorvun for an additional three months (90 days) after the ban is lifted.
- Each additional account counts as an additional charge, and the World Court has discretion if multiple charges are served concurrently or consecutively. Therefore, even if the offender was charged with one of these criminal charges for the first time with multiple counts it accumulates towards the number of offenses and punishment must be dealt accordingly
- Possession of Multiple Accounts is a misdemeanor for the first offense, beyond the first offense it is a felony charge and therefore an impeachable offense.
- Account Fraud, Voter Fraud, and Corruption are all felonies and therefore are an impeachable offense. If an impeachment is called for, the punishment for being impeached is dealt in addition to whatever punishment for these criminal acts has been dealt.
Article III. Active Participation
Section I. Defining Active
- A citizen shall be considered active if at least one of these conditions is met:
- A minimum of one post on either the New Sorvun forums or Regional Message Board a week (7 days)
- Posts in spam areas do not count toward this minimum
- Voting in the League of Nations, at least once per month, where possible.
- Participating in a mission as a member of the New Sorvun military at least once per month.
- Send at least 50 recruitment messages on behalf of New Sorvun once per month.
- Send updates or make posts in New Sorvun's embassies as an ambassador once per month or participate on New Sorvun's behalf in any inter-regional organizations
- This condition alone will not be considered active, an additional condition must be met alongside this condition in order to be considered active.
Section II. Population and Good Standing.
- The population of New Sorvun is the number of active citizens, and this number shall be used when determining processes, such as the number of Judicators, that depend on the number of active citizens.
- Good Standing is defined as an active citizen that has not been convicted of a felony for at least three months
The part about Activity was placed to provide a definition for ordinary citizens, in the Executive Line of Succession Act, the definition of activity there was meant for the Lord Chancellor and the other members of the Government that have a place in the line of succession.
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May 12 2013, 11:03 AM
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Very nice work Likako.- Quote:
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The citizens of New Sorvun must be given two weeks notice of an upcoming Census. This notice must be sent to all nations in New Sorvun jurisdiction in the form of telegrams. The Census must remain open for one week. I think these time limits are a little too generous, we'd practically finish one census and have to start on the next one. I think five days notice, and a five day census would be more than fair.- Quote:
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Once the Census closes, there will be one week given for late entries. I don't think this is really necessary, it's not particularly difficult to re-apply for citizenship, and just means more time before we can clean up the citizens list.- Quote:
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After that week for late entries ends, all nations that are not indicated on the Census form will be ejected from New Sorvun jurisdiction. Does this mean we eject everybody who doesn't reply from our NationStates region? That seems a little bit excessive to me. It also seems to contradict the Retaining Citizenship section which suggests ejection only comes after three strikes.- Quote:
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The Commonwealth of Regions The extent of jurisdiction for the Commonwealth of Regions is for the retention of citizenship. Does this mean somebody can move their nation to, for example, Caprecia, and still be a New Sorvun citizen? I don't think we should be encouraging emigration of nations to other regions, we have less than thirty as it is.- Quote:
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Participate in the Census.
If a citizen misses one Census, he is given a warning. If after the warning he fails to participate in the next Census, his citizenship and all rights granted thereto is revoked. If after a third Census the revoked citizen fails to participate, he is ejected from New Sorvun jurisdiction and must re-apply for citizenship So somebody has to miss their second census to have their forum masking removed? I think it should happen on the first.
Sadly I don't have any more time to finish going through at the moment, but as soon as I return I shall go through the second half.
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Post #3
May 12 2013, 03:55 PM
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Deckard Christopher
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The official Debate Stage will not start until Monday. However, any comments made before then about this bill will be considered in the Debate Stage. Apologies for not saying something yet already, I just am trying to avoid conducting official League business on Sundays.
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Post #4
May 12 2013, 08:15 PM
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Likako A. Nehio
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I think these time limits are a little too generous, we'd practically finish one census and have to start on the next one. I think five days notice, and a five day census would be more than fair Once the Census closes, there will be one week given for late entries.
Suppose if we eliminated the week given for late entries, and reduced the notice to one week and the Census itself to five days, would that be reasonable?
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Does this mean we eject everybody who doesn't reply from our NationStates region? That seems a little bit excessive to me. It also seems to contradict the Retaining Citizenship section which suggests ejection only comes after three strikes.
Firstly, for those nations that are not on the forums, they can still participate in the Census by filling out the form and telegram it to the Delegate.
Secondly, I figured that being a citizen should be given more leniency then some unknown nation in our region.
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Does this mean somebody can move their nation to, for example, Caprecia, and still be a New Sorvun citizen? I don't think we should be encouraging emigration of nations to other regions, we have less than thirty as it is.
No, this refers to the actual region with the name "The Commonwealth of Regions" which represents the CoR's presence on Nationstates, for example, my self-named nation "Likako" is sitting in that region, and I shouldn't be stripped of my citizenship (assuming it was my only nation) for having a nation there.
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So somebody has to miss their second census to have their forum masking removed? I think it should happen on the first.
I understand, I was just trying to find a way to prevent people from being kicked if the Census happens to fall on a busy week for them, perhaps allowing early submissions if they can't be on during the time of the Census?
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May 12 2013, 10:52 PM
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Suppose if we eliminated the week given for late entries, and reduced the notice to one week and the Census itself to five days, would that be reasonable? Seems fair, just don't want it to be too drawn out an affair.- Quote:
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Firstly, for those nations that are not on the forums, they can still participate in the Census by filling out the form and telegram it to the Delegate.
Secondly, I figured that being a citizen should be given more leniency then some unknown nation in our region. So this law would see the end of unknown, silent nations in our region? From what I can see that would leave us with about thirteen nations.Spoiler: click to toggle Boom Shacka, Tsruhkwah, Taganian Empire, Ironicness, New Anzat, Foolands, Irthonia, Kardas, Kenfeia, The Merdeka United Provinces, Narbonia, Jaggeria, Nova Angleterre - Quote:
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No, this refers to the actual region with the name "The Commonwealth of Regions" which represents the CoR's presence on Nationstates, for example, my self-named nation "Likako" is sitting in that region, and I shouldn't be stripped of my citizenship (assuming it was my only nation) for having a nation there. Ah, I see. That makes more sense. I'm not sure I agree with that region being included though.- Quote:
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I understand, I was just trying to find a way to prevent people from being kicked if the Census happens to fall on a busy week for them, perhaps allowing early submissions if they can't be on during the time of the Census? I would think that if someone has made it known that they're not going to be online for a while they'd be included automatically. Maybe allow the person carrying out the Census to have a little leeway in deciding whether or not to remove the citizenship of people, instead of having a series of "strikes" with set punishments.
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May 13 2013, 12:52 AM
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I understand that possession of multiple accounts isn't that much of a problem if it's not coupled with another charge relating to it, but I still think it deserves a larger penalty that just forced deletion.
Also, you can't delete your own account- can you?
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May 13 2013, 12:52 AM
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I understand that possession of multiple accounts isn't that much of a problem if it's not coupled with another charge relating to it, but I still think it deserves a larger penalty that just forced deletion.
Also, you can't delete your own account- can you?
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May 13 2013, 05:13 AM
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So this law would see the end of unknown, silent nations in our region? From what I can see that would leave us with about thirteen nations.
Essentially, however a citizen can have puppets in the region, as long as he includes his puppets in the Census then they won't be kicked either. I'd rather have a region as close to the number of active members as possible, then a region inflated by non-citizens and puppets
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Ah, I see. That makes more sense. I'm not sure I agree with that region being included though.
It doesn't have to be, just a nifty idea I came up with.
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I would think that if someone has made it known that they're not going to be online for a while they'd be included automatically. Maybe allow the person carrying out the Census to have a little leeway in deciding whether or not to remove the citizenship of people, instead of having a series of "strikes" with set punishments.
As always, the Lord Chancellor or Cabinet member has some discretion in this, however this needs some meat to it in order to be effective.
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I understand that possession of multiple accounts isn't that much of a problem if it's not coupled with another charge relating to it, but I still think it deserves a larger penalty that just forced deletion.
Also, you can't delete your own account- can you?
Well, the possession charge is for when an individual gets caught prior to committing any of the other crimes (since the others would require possession of multiple accounts to be facilitated) It makes it clear that it is never okay to have multiple accounts even if you don't do anything malicious with it.
As for account deletion, the admins would have to assist with that (as I don't think even I as a mod can do that), also that is not the only punishment, after the first offense, it is not just account deletion, but banjection from the region and forums for a set time.
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May 13 2013, 03:39 PM
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The official Debate Stage for this is now started, lasting three days, until Thursday, May 16 at 12 pm EST.
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May 14 2013, 12:58 AM
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I agree with the leeway idea- perhaps include some sort of registration clause in which you can sustain your citizenship for an amount of days you haven't access to the Census? That would help the region in a number of ways.
Also, this came up in a World Court case a while back, but I don't think we can delete accounts. These are a shared forums and regions might not have the right to prevent an individual's IP from accessing the Commonwealth. For instance, say I ran afoul of this law- I'm a Nysan citizen. When you threaten to bar me from the entire forums, you make that choice for Nysa ipso facto. Thoughts?
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May 14 2013, 01:02 AM
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Likako A. Nehio
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We can ban the accounts from our regional areas by proper masking.
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May 14 2013, 01:18 AM
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Ironicness
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But that's not the same thing, is it? You can mask the hell out of someone, but they still have an account and you haven't deleted squat. I think if we want to be able to hold the deletion threat over someone's head, which is a perfectly fine thing to be able to do, we need to make this an issue on the Commonwealth-wide level. I'm sure other regions have thought about it.
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Post #13
May 14 2013, 10:40 AM
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Tsruhkwah
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Essentially, however a citizen can have puppets in the region, as long as he includes his puppets in the Census then they won't be kicked either. I'd rather have a region as close to the number of active members as possible, then a region inflated by non-citizens and puppets I don't think I can agree with giving the government the power to kick people for lack of activity.- Ironicness
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But that's not the same thing, is it? You can mask the hell out of someone, but they still have an account and you haven't deleted squat. I think if we want to be able to hold the deletion threat over someone's head, which is a perfectly fine thing to be able to do, we need to make this an issue on the Commonwealth-wide level. I'm sure other regions have thought about it. This is a great idea, it is pretty likely that the other regions would want some kind of action taken against puppet accounts and we'd have a lot more clout if we could actually ban people from the Commonwealth forums.
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Post #14
May 14 2013, 08:16 PM
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Likako A. Nehio
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I don't think I can agree with giving the government the power to kick people for lack of activity.
Why the sudden change, Tsru?
It makes no sense in having a region full of nations that contribute nothing. They have no right to be in our region, if they refuse to become citizens and contribute. I have a proposal in mind that will enable RMB-based nations to become full citizens and actively participate in our government and other aspects without need of joining the forum, which I will propose after
I want nations that will actually do something in our region. I don't care if its just whining on the RMB that their nation is the bottom of the list that day, as long as it is something.
As to Iro's response, sounds good, I think we can take the matter to the High Court in that instance.
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| The Second Republic of Sorvun | - Senator (One Term)
- Minister of Defense (one term)
- Prime Minister (one term)
| None | - Founder of Domestic Progressive Party
- Co-founder and Co-Chair of the Progressive Nationalist Party
| None | | The First Republic of New Sorvun | - Revolutionary Council Member
- Prime Minister (6 terms)
- Interim President (during La America's second term)
- Minister of Foreign Affairs (One term)
- Attorney General (one term)
- Chief Justice (One Term)
- RSI Minister (One Term)
- Chancellor of the Exchequer (one term)
| NSMF;- Participated in Liberation of The Confederate Empire from The First Galactic Empire
- Defense of Central Europe
| - Re-established the PNP in New Sorvun
- Co-chair of the PNP
| - Presidential Term Limits Constitutional Case (lost)
- People v. Azlyn, Prosecutor (dismissed)
- People v. Farage, Prosecutor (convicted)
- People v. The Great Sufu, Prosecutor (defendent fled jurisdiction)
| The Second Republic of New Sorvun | - Lord Chancellor (2 terms)
- Interim Lord Chancellor (during Brum Brum's term)
- Secretary of State (2 terms)
- Military High Commander (2 terms)
- Interim Speaker of the LoN
| NSMF; Private First Class; Missions: - Liberation of Renatia
- Liberation of The Middle East
| Co-Chair of the Progressive Nationalist Party | Likako v. Deckard Christopher (won) | Leone | - Minister of the Treasury (two terms)
- Minister of Foreign Affairs (one term)
- Senator (one term)
| None | Founded and Chaired the Domestic Progressive Party | People v. Sue, defense (won through appeal) | | The Founderless Regions Alliance | - Deputy Regional Recruitment Officer (1 term)
- Minister of Foreign Affairs (1 term)
- Regional Liaison Officer (2 terms)
| FRA Rangers; Corporal; 10 Defenses to date. | RA Representative of New Sorvun(several terms) | N/A | | The Commonwealth of Regions | - Charter Committee Member
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Post #15
May 15 2013, 12:09 AM
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Ironicness
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Likako, perhaps a High Court petition isn't the best way to solve this (/hypocrisy) I think it would be wise for this to be a larger, more involved issue because this definitely overreaches some sovereignty bounds and we should have as many people chipping in as possible.
Perhaps starting with a topic in the GA? I think if you want a final ruling, then the High Court, but we're nowhere near.
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