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| NHK Ni Yokossou (Welcome to the NHK); Drama conveyed through comedy | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 30 2007, 10:45 AM (141 Views) | |
| VoidHawk | Dec 30 2007, 10:45 AM Post #1 |
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*** WARNING*** SPOILERS AHEAD Konnichiwa Minna San!!! Now that I have been through NHK NI YOKOSSOU (Welcome to the NHK) issues 1 through 4, I would like to post my impressions so far. First, I have already finished watching the anime, and albeit not really with a nice end (to my opinion) it had a decent, logical end. Miracle endings can spoil the idea sometimes, and the anime had a decent, fair end, if not the bright one I love. Although we can say it ended fairly nice to both main characters. Now about the manga up to issue 4: The manga follows a pretty different story in regards to the anime. It seems that what was taken as a main plot on the anime is just one of the stories made up by Mizaki to ensnare Satou. That or amidst the lies she is telling that one was true… The manga is actually a pretty serious story about a serious problem in Japan (or any country where such happens) regarding people that, due psychological problems, isolate themselves from the world. The story conveys the drama through humorous (albeit acidic) situations, but it is a really serious story, with many sad situations at the end. We see the main male character being dragged always down, be it for his naivette or plain lack of will to deal with the world and people around him. He is not a hero, but a true anti-hero. A loser on many of his choices, and victim of his own frailty to tackle the real world. A true pray to any smart or vicious one trying to take advantage of him, and at the same time a lenient man, not willing to go fight to go up, at least with true tools as studying, working and trying to make his way through work. Even the possible talent to write is hampered by his hikikomori ways. True such is a psychological problem to solve. Now we have also Misaki. In the anime she is a nice girl with a sad past, connected to Satou due considering him “inferior” to herself. In a way, she is a hikikomori as well, for she seems to be able to deal with people on the basis of them being less than herself. Now in the manga, some of that is true, but different from the way she is portrayed in the anime, in the manga she is showing herself as a vengeful, dangerous and manipulative girl. She has Satou much like her own property, and she displays herself as extremely unbalanced, expecially on issue 4. She seems pretty more dangerous than Satou on her sickeness, and most of her emotional displays are only that, theater. We can always see the flask of glicerine on her hands when she cries to Satou. She wrecked her whole room when she thought Satou was dating Kashiwa, and she said it aloud, with a really weird face that Satou was Totally Hers. The story she told to Satou prior to his suicide attempt the second time seems to be a lie as well, different from the anime where it was her true past. Wether it is that way or not on the manga (I need to finish the whole series) it does not negate the fact that Mizaki in the manga seems a pretty unstable and possibly dangerous girl. At least prone to violence and vengeful acts. All in all this is a really interesting manga, filled with drama, depicting depressive young people in some really weird ways. I lile both Satou and Mizaki, but I cannot deny they both are problematic at best, and psychologically unstable, in really of real help. Will the manga end well? I hope so, as I like both characters, but it has a possibility of something more dramatic towards its end. It already deviated a lot from the anime, so the field is open. One thing I also noted about differences between manga and anime. In the anime Satou said that Yamazaki was prone to violent behavior if denied of something…but in the manga that falls to Mizaki. She can become really violent if denied. It seems the anime producers took a ,lot of the real juice in the story when making it into anime. Easy to understand on some instances, as the content of the manga is pretty rated, be it for its sex content or the adult relationship drama in the whole story. I am really loving this manga, and I hope to get my hands on the remainder issues soon. Till Then |
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| + fearless freak | Dec 30 2007, 03:35 PM Post #2 |
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KEEP ON ROCKING IN THE FREE WORLD!
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isnt this the series with those Domo-Kun things in it? |
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| VoidHawk | Dec 30 2007, 04:50 PM Post #3 |
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Domo Kun??? Not sure. Some parts of the manga does remind me of Atame from Almodovar, that I know. And Mizaki can be pretty scary at times...true scary, not in a comedic way. Were this a pure drama, she would end being trully evil. In the manga she actually almost killed Satou, after leaving him chained in his room, leaving him to his own fate after getting mad at him...for a whole week before even coming to see his state. She is pretty vicious when mad... |
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| Kaname | Dec 31 2007, 02:13 AM Post #4 |
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Welcome to the NHK is funny in my opinion, Yamazaki is defenitely not your normal neighbor, and it is scary when Misaki is mad almost gives me nightmares haha. |
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| VoidHawk | Dec 31 2007, 06:28 AM Post #5 |
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I will not deny it is funny at times, but then again we usually tend to see tragedy as funny when it is on others. Satou in the manga is a hikikomori, wich per si is already sad, but his life goes bad and badder along the series. He tries sometimes, but his attempts are unnefective and in many cases just an attempt to reach impossible/easy ways to earn money and keep his life as it is. He is sick but does not look up for true help. Mizaki on her turn shows herself more and more a sick, dangerous little girl, who found in Satou a harmeless enough target for her to use/possess. Mizaki sees him as her possession, and not as a lover, for she does not admire him or look him in a great way. She sees him as a poor human being, inferior to herself. She almost killed him for nothing and acts as if it was nothing. Every time she tries to endar him to her crying she is using glicerine to create her tears, and she already showed her unbalance displaying her anger destroying her room and venting it on Satou. I am not going to overanalyze a drama/comedy story. I just wanted to impart my view up to issue 4. And in regards of comedy, after the beginning the drama is rather more present than comedy itself. The situations are sad and sadder and the heroe and heroine are displaying themselves are both sick and in need of help. I really am enjoying the manga, and already ordered issue 5, but the sensation of helplesness in Satou is ever more present, and the continuous unbalance from Mizaki is really scary. As I said before, were NHK not a comedy drama and just pure drama, I would not go further, for probably it would end in a very sad way. As this is comedy it is ok, even if it ends just like the anime, though I think that will not be the case.
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| Kaname | Dec 31 2007, 08:01 PM Post #6 |
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I hafta agree with you if the comedy aspect of it was not there, I wouldn't even read it. Also, typically the end of the manga and the end of the anime are different. Which is why I both read and watch a particular series. |
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| Doomsayer | Jan 1 2008, 10:02 PM Post #7 |
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Well the phrase : Tragedy is when I cut my finger, Comedy is when you walk in an open sewer and die, proves to be truth sometimes. Now the story caught me completely, I've always been interested in stories in which the main character is an antihero. My favorite book is the Lazarillo de Tormes, written in the Spain of the Reconquista, a bitter although clever satire of the society of that time (you should read it). As for the story, well, I would like to tell about the further developments of the story, but I would be spoiling it, and probably would get myself killed, I won't do it. The only thing I can say, is well Misaki is kind of interesting since she needs someone that's much more miserable than her to feel herself good, so the relationship between her and Satou is some kind of sick dependence of each other The character that I truly feel bad for is Yamazaki, well when you finish the manga you may want to discuss it with me, so we can talk without the risk of spoiling it. |
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| VoidHawk | Jan 1 2008, 10:47 PM Post #8 |
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We will surelly discuss it. So it seems that the manga will definitively go astray from the anime...for in the anime Yamazaki ended up a lot better than Satou. His wife ended up being even a clone from Nanako. Actually the anime is more like a lighter, funnier version of NHK manga. Mizaki is totally different in the anime, and the situations depicted in the animated version are reallyt different and more light and comedy filled. Drama is heavier in the manga, and Mizaki is pratically another character there. The dependecy of Mizaki is sure clear, and quite dangerous. Satou would never have a take off option. That could meant his death. And another thing, Mizaki saying she will cure him of his Hikikomori ways...a fat lie! She NEEDS him do depend on her, to look only for her (another clear scene straight from the manga) and therefore she would not cure him in the end. Maybe she just wanted him a bit more open to the world, as she does want to walk with the guy on her leash. That part with the chains and the gag was revealing of her inner nature, as well as revealing of her innate savagery if provoked. Again if that was not comedy/drama and pure drama, she would end murdering him, as she almost did in the manga. Actually that was also a fantasy situation for dark comedic purposes. On a more serious take, Satou would have died of dehidration before 3 days were over. That part was a sad one, when he in despair tries tom use the connected game to call for help. Creepy part, especially when Mizaki appeared after he left the room, as if nothing had happened. Crazy anti heroes here. Oh, one thing...does the manga ends on issue 5? I lamost bought it but I was not sure if there were more, and I ended up buying 2 Genshiken issues alongside NHK 1-4. Well, good that anyway, as Genshiken is a nice option to light up the mood after reading NHK, for in the end the suffocating feel of the plot does get me after reading it. Allas a real commend to the authors. The guys are really good. I will be getting NHK 5 next 15, alongside many Genshiken and first ARIA manga. However NHK ends, I will have plenty of good warm and funny mangas to cover for it
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| Doomsayer | Jan 2 2008, 02:15 PM Post #9 |
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There are 8 volumes of the manga, so you still have some more to read :P. And about Yamazaki, you'll find out why things turn worse from him than the anime. |
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| VoidHawk | Jan 2 2008, 07:51 PM Post #10 |
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Humm That means the manga goes well over the anime it seems, for the manga up to issue 4 is pratically at the last 2 episodes of the anime. So it also seems the manga will dwelve into the weird relationship Mizaki and Satou ended up in the anime. Good I wanted to see more on that, actually with hope they both would find a way to love each other in a better, happier way. I like both, even though Mizaki seems a dangerous psychotic in the manga
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| Doomsayer | Jan 2 2008, 09:15 PM Post #11 |
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Just wait and see, my friend. |
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