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| Male Breeding Behavior Help; Not sure if bird is male?? | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 6 2010, 02:40 AM (1,324 Views) | |
| bmsweb | Apr 6 2010, 02:40 AM Post #1 |
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Hi Guys, I just got a pair of Green Cheek Conures (Yesterday) and according to their DNA tests one is a male and the other a female. The one that's supposed to be a male is doing this really strange thing. He lies down on the perch with his head low and does little pulses with his wings while chirping (to me it looks like he is waiting for the other bird to jump on??). I'm still researching all this behavior but I would have thought this is what a female would do?? Could I possibly have two females? Its like a cycle, he does this behavior for 5 seconds and then climbs around comes back to the same spot and does it again. BTW the other bird comes close and then jumps down and starts playing with a ball that's in the cage. Cheers Paul |
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| conure58 | Apr 6 2010, 04:40 AM Post #2 |
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That does sound more like a female trait than male. My female Sun does the same thing and my unknown sex Brown Throat has never done it (always assumed he was male). Hopefully, Anna (BUUZBEE) will see this and maybe be able to give you more info. She had a pair of GCC's (female passed away a few months ago). I can't think of anyone else that has a pair (male and female) of GCC's on the forum. Any idea how old your pair are? |
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| BUUZBEE | Apr 6 2010, 08:24 AM Post #3 |
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My Coco (male) does this too... when he does it, its more of a begging ritual rather than mating ritual. He does this exactly the way you describe, when he wants out of the cage or wants something we are eating. |
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| conure58 | Apr 6 2010, 09:15 AM Post #4 |
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I stand corrected!!  |
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| bmsweb | Apr 6 2010, 12:22 PM Post #5 |
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Thank You BUUZBEE !!! I'm feeling a little more relaxed now. Conure58 I think they are just over a year old. They were both Surgically Sexed in March Last year and the Breeder said they should be ready to mate within the next couple of months or so. BUUZBEE, When I first saw this behavior I actually thought he wanted more food, so I cleaned out the cage and topped everything up and they both had a feed on seeds and the fresh fruit. Then straight after feeding he went back to doing this. Thank You so Much! Regards Paul |
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| BUUZBEE | Apr 6 2010, 03:33 PM Post #6 |
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dont hold me to it that it IS the reason, its just what coco does... sheila never did, but he's the spoiled one of the flock LOL who did your DNA sexing? I've always used avian biotec but there were some rumors floating around the webs that they were not 100%... i've personally never had this problem with them though |
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| bmsweb | Apr 6 2010, 06:52 PM Post #7 |
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Not holding you to it at all  your post helped me confirm this was in fact what was happening.From what I can tell he does this more when someone is in the room, I know this because I've been keeping an eye on them via my IPCam. He isn't as brave as the female who doesn't seem to care if we are in the room or not. I'm actually from Australia, the testing was done by a Dr Tony Gestier from www.Vetafarms.com (well that's what the cards state). I'd never heard of Avian Biotec. I may need to check to see if they operate internationally. If so this could be really handy. Its a great forum you have here. I only discovered it after my panic about sex and I think I've spent at least 4-5 hours just reading through posts. My next step is trying to tame . . I've never had to do this with two birds let alone ones that are over a year old. When one jumps so does the other so I may have to separate them . . or just not bother them and focus on the chicks . . . if they come Cheers Paul |
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| Monica | Apr 7 2010, 10:52 AM Post #8 |
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A breeder did do a test to see which company was more reliable: Zoogen vs Avian Biotech. The test was done on opaline (yellowsided) green cheeks. The mother was not an opaline, so the breeder knew that all the opaline chicks were in fact females. The breeder split the egg shells up into 20 samples and sent 10 to each company. Zoogen was 100% correct. Avian Biotech was 70% correct. It was just one experiment, but from that one, "we" could say that Zoogen is more reliable. Then again, who's to say that another experiment would have been the same? Or any future ones? Zoogen is in California. Avian Biotech is in Florida. If I remember correctly. Both USA. Generally speaking, pets don't make good breeders, and breeders don't make good pets. So if you want to use them for breeding, don't tame them. If you want them as pets, don't breed them. That said, yes it's possible to have breeders who are also pets. I've been able to "tame" adult budgies and cockatiels (1 year old up to 5+) without having to separate them. Well, I "tamed" 5 budgies without separating them, and "tamed" two (one previously tamed, just not recently worked with) cockatiels at separate times, but within the same flock. I assume the same can be done with larger birds, however, I have heard it may be best to separate the larger ones.... I'm wondering if the behavior means he wants out, he needs exercise (is he clipped?), or perhaps wants some attention - regardless of how skittish he is. |
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| bmsweb | Apr 7 2010, 12:44 PM Post #9 |
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Thanks for the additional information on the DNA testing Companies. Its interesting to say the least. After doing some more searching it looks like we have a few local ones available here in Australia. I will get the birds settled before taking the DNA testing any further. As far as taming goes, I want them tame enough so I can take them in and out of the cage with minimal fuss and stress to the birds. I just find it easier to clean cages without the birds in them. I've used target training with a clicker on my Cockatiel and two budgies and its really worked a treat. They were done individually and all were youngish birds. The problem I'm having with these two guys is the Hen is pretty relaxed and looks like she's going to be the easiest to tame, but as soon has the male jumps, so does she. As far as the male being skittish, well I have a feeling its me! I've had my IP Cam on him for more than 24hrs and he seems to only exhibit this behavior when I'm in the room. He does settle after a while, but I have no idea why. As far as Wing clipping goes, I've always initially clipped wings so the birds have limited flight capability until they get use to their new home. One got out yesterday and still had enough power to fly from one end of the house to the other. But gaining height looks like a lot of work for them. Once they are settled, they wont be clipped again. The cage they are in now is only temporary. Their new cage arrives sometime today, so I expect to have them in their new home before the end of the day. Thanks for the info Monica Cheers Paul |
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| Monica | Apr 7 2010, 01:04 PM Post #10 |
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Clicker training works on adults just as well... and if one bird gets it, it might help to "click" with the other.... i.e. monkey see, monkey do. So you might try training them together. Whichever you decide to do, let us know! |
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