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Does Russia Have Compromising Info On PEOTUS Trump?
Topic Started: Jan 11 2017, 02:48 AM (193 Views)
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....saw this over on Reddit and it piqued my interest,...long story short: supposedly Russia has compromising info on the incoming President and that both he and outgoing Pres. Obama were briefed on the matter....
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Multiple outlets are reporting that intelligence officials briefed President Obama and President Elect Trump on allegations that Russia has in their possession compromising information on the President elect.


.....selected links of interest:
(1) USA Today: Intel Chiefs Briefed Obama & Trump On Unverified, Salacious Allegations Involving Russia & PEOTUS
(2) CNN: Intel Chiefs Presented Trump With Claims Of Russian Efforts To Compromise Him
(3) The Guardian: FBI Director Given Dossier By John McCain Alleging Trump-Russia Contacts
(4) NBC News: Trump Briefing Materials Included Damaging Allegations Of Trump-Russia Ties
(5) Politico: Trump Confronts Firestorm Over Russia Allegations

....thoughts? Is there something here or is this all smoke-and-mirrors?
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(The Guardian) Trump flips on election hacking: 'I think it was Russia'
--Question time. Did Trump get the two-page summary about Russia during his intelligence briefing, and does he accept intelligence assessments that Putin hacked the DNC?

Trump: The meetings are classified. We had many witnesses in the meeting.

On the documents published by Buzzfeed, he says:

iI think it’s a disgrace that information would be let out ... it’s all fake news. It’s phony stuff, it didn’t happen. It was gotten by opponents of ours ... It was a group of opponents that got together, sick people, and they got that crap together.

He adds: “As far as hacking, I think it was Russia, but I think we also get hacked by other countries, other people.”
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(The Guardian) Trump: President Putin and Russia put out a statement today that this fake news was fake news ... I respected the fact that he said that.

“If they had something, they would have released it,” Trump says.

That is ... unless they were trying to elect Trump?

Trump says hacking is bad, “but look at the things that were learned ... that Hillary Clinton got the questions to the debate but didn’t report it? Can you imagine if Donald Trump got the questions to the debate? It’s a very terrible thing.”

Trump is asked if he accepts that Putin tried to elect him.

If Putin likes Donald Trump, I consider that an asset, not a liability, because we have a horrible relationship with Russia ...
If Putin likes Donald Trump, guess what folks, that’s called an asset, not a liability.


He adds: “Do you honestly believe that Hillary would be tougher on Putin than me? Does anybody really believe that?”
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(The Guardian) Trump describes awareness of tiny cameras in foreign hotel rooms
--Trump says he has always been aware of spying in hotel rooms in countries including Russia. And he warns people he travels with specifically about small cameras.

I am extremely careful. I’m surrounded by bodyguards ... I always tell them, be very careful, because ... in those rooms you have cameras in the strangest places ... You can’t see them and you won’t know. You better be careful or you will be watching yourself on nightly television.

“I’m also very much of a germaphobe, by the way,” Trump says, drawing laughter from the room.
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(The Guardian) Trump describes turning down $2bn business offer at the weekend

Trump says “I have no dealings” in Russia, “no loans, no current pending deals.”

“Over the weekend, I was offered $2bn to do a deal in Dubai” with “a friend of mine”. “Great guy.”

I turned it down. I didn’t have to turn it down, because as you know, I have a no-conflict situation because I’m president ... Pence also has it. I don’t think he’ll need it ... I have a no conflict of interest provision as president ... I could actually run my business and run government at the same time. I don’t like the way that looks but I would be able to do that if I wanted to.

On his tax returns: I’m not releasing the tax returns because they’re under audit ... The only people that care about my tax returns is the reporters ... I won. I became president. I think you care. First of all you learn very little from tax returns.
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(The Guardian) Trump lawyer says Trump will be isolated from business dealings
--“These papers are just some of the documents that I’ve signed turning over complete and total control to my sons,” Trump says, referring to his business interests.

Trump calls up a lawyer, Sheri Dillon, who describes his “massive” business “empire” which she compares to Nelson Rockefeller.

The lawyer continues: “He directed me and my colleagues... to design a structure that would ... completely isolate him from his management of the company.”

“The conflicts of interest laws simply do not apply to the president and the vice president,” she says.

“Even so, president-elect Trump wants there to be no doubt in the minds of the American public that he is completely isolating himself from his business interests.”
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(The Guardian) Trump lawyer describes 'wall' between Trump and his companies
--Dillon, the lawyer, says a trust will be created by 20 January. The trust will hold cash and perhaps an index investment and “preexisting and illiquid business assets – golf clubs, resorts, hotels, royalties, real estate”.

And the management of the Trump organization goes to Don Jr and Eric, and a third Trump executive.

The management team will include an ethics adviser, Dillon says. “President-elect Trump will resign from all offices he holds” with the Trump organization, she says.

Trump has “already disposed” with all publicly traded and “easily liquidated” investments she says.

“No new foreign deals will be made whatsoever during the duration of Donald Trump’s presidency,” she says.

Trump won’t talk to his sons about new domestic deals, Dillon says. Trump “will only know of a deal if he reads it in the paper or sees it on TV”.

Dillon calls the division between Trump and the Trump organization a “wall”.
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(The Guardian) “In sum, all of these actions – complete relinquishment of management, no foreign deals, ethics adviser approval of deals, and sharply delineated information rights” will resolve any conflict of interest, Dillon says.

Why not divest? “Selling would not eliminate conflict of interests,” Dillon says. Also selling the assets would “create a fire sale” and “selling the entire Trump organization isn’t even feasible” and Trump shouldn’t be required to liquidate his life’s work.

Also an IPO is not an option – too “cumbersome,” Dillon says. Neither is a blind trust. “You cannot have a totally blind trust with operating businesses,” she says, which is credible.

The question is, can you build a credible firewall of information between Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr / Eric Trump?
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(The Guardian) Dillon says Trump won’t take gifts – emoluments, as the Constitution has it – from foreign governments.

Dillon says the clause does not apply to “fair-value exchanges that have absolutely nothing to do with an office-holder.” She says emoluments don’t cover routine business transactions, like “paying for hotel rooms.”

“Paying for a hotel room is not a gift or a present, and it has nothing with office. It’s not an emolument.” This all refers to the Trump hotel in the old post office building in DC, where foreign governments have scheduled big events, perhaps to curry favor with the incoming president.

“He is going to voluntary donate all profits from foreign governments made to his hotels to the United States treasury,” Dillon says.

Another charity promise from Trump. Trump has a long history of promising to or appearing to make donations to charity but failing to follow through.
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(The Guardian) The story of the Trump dossier: secret sources, an airport rendezvous, and John McCain
--The extraordinary but unverified documents published on Tuesday on Donald Trump’s ties with Moscow began life as a piece of opposition research, which has become as much a part of US politics as yard signs and coloured balloons.

There is a small industry of research and investigative firms in Washington, typically staffed by a mix of former journalists and security officials, adept at finding information about politicians that the politicians would rather stay hidden. The firms often do not know who exactly is hiring them; the request could come from a law firm acting on behalf of a client from one of the parties.

In this case, the request for opposition research on Donald Trump came from one of his Republican opponents in the primary campaign. The research firm then hired one of its sub-contractors who it used regularly on all things Russian: a retired western European former counter-intelligence official, with a long history of dealing with the shadow world of Moscow’s spooks and siloviki (securocrats).
-Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts
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--.@Acosta's exchange with the President-elect during this Trump presser (Elizabeth Landers, CNN - 11 Jan. 2017)
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--NEW: @RepCummings responds to Donald Trump presser: "It is now up to Congress...to act as an independent check on the Executive Branch." (ABC News Politics, 11 Jan. 2017)
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(The Guardian) Explainer: what is in the Trump-Russia dossier John McCain passed to the FBI?
--The big picture
What does the dossier which John McCain passed to FBI chief James Comey say?

It says Vladimir Putin’s Russia has been “cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years”. Moscow’s aim is “to encourage splits and divisions in the western alliance” and to upend the “ideals-based international order” set up after the second world war. Putin’s preference, according to the report, is for a return to the “Great Power” politics of the 19th century, where big states pursue their own interests.

The dossier says that Trump was offered “various sweetener business deals” by the Kremlin, but turned them down. The Kremlin also supplied Trump with “a regular flow of intelligence”, including on the Democrats and other political rivals.

Russian spies put together compromising dossiers on both Clinton and Trump, the dossier says. The Clinton one was innocuous and mostly included bugged conversations.

The Trump material, by contrast, was explosive. It includes lurid details from Trump’s visit in 2013 Moscow for the Miss Universe beauty pageant. According to the dossier, Trump stayed in the Ritz Carlton hotel, in the same suite used by Barack Obama. It says Russia’s FSB spy agency obtained compromising sexual material – kompromat – from the hotel suite. “FSB has compromised TRUMP through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him,” it says.

Is it true?
No one could quibble with the report’s section on geopolitics. It’s undoubtedly true that Putin has sought to weaken western institutions and the transatlantic alliance, plus the EU. Over the past 16 years he has sought to re-establish Russia as an indispensable global player, and to challenge what Moscow sees as unfair US hegemony.

The sex claims about Trump are ultimately unknowable and what happened inside the Ritz Carlton is a matter of speculation. Trump dismissed the report in its entirety at his press conference on Wednesday as “fake news”...
-Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/11/trump-russia-dossier-explainer-details
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It started here:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump


So it HAS to be true.

Right?

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Jan 11 2017, 05:43 PM
Then the question becomes, "Why didn't they get called out the way Buzzfeed and/or CNN were?" :O :O
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--Director of National Intelligence James Clapper tells Trump that the CNN-Buzzfeed report was garbage! (Mike Cernovich, 11 Jan. 2017)
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