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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 9 2017, 02:20 PM (64 Views) | |
| Webster | Jun 9 2017, 02:20 PM Post #1 |
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BBC News: May to form 'government of certainty' with DUP backing-Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-40219030 |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 04:42 PM Post #2 |
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(The Guardian) On Saturday, Downing Street said Theresa May had reached an outline agreement with the DUP about a “confidence and supply agreement”, which would involve the DUP promising to vote with the minority Conservative government on budgets and confidence motions, only for it to have to clarify the position, in a statement released after midnight, after the DUP said there was no agreement yet. Sky’s Faisal Islam has posted the statements illustrating how No 10 had to step back from its early announcement. -Read more: https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/873811863167021057 |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 04:49 PM Post #3 |
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(The Guardian) Osborne says May is a 'dead woman walking' --George Osborne, the Conservative former chancellor, is reviewing the papers on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show. He has just described Theresa May as a “dead woman walking”. Q: Do you regret leaving the Commons? Osborne says he feels well out if it. He says Boris Johnson has been running a permanent leadership campaign for years. He is not sure the Mail on Sunday story counts as news, he says. He says as an editor he is not sure he would have put this on the front page. Andrew Marr asks George Osborne what Theresa May said to him when she sacked him. Osborne said she told him he needed to get to know the Conservative party better. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 04:51 PM Post #4 |
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(The Guardian) Corbyn says he can still become prime minister --Jeremy Corbyn has told the Sunday Mirror in an interview that he thinks he can become prime minister. Here is an extract: [Corbyn] plans to use the Queen’s speech as his first opportunity to topple the floundering PM. In an exclusive interview with the Sunday Mirror, Corbyn is champing at the bit and buzzing with enthusiasm. And over a cappuccino he says it is time for Mrs May to wake up and smell the coffee. The Labour leader says: “I can still be prime minister. This is still on. Absolutely. Theresa May has been to the palace. She’s attempting to form a government. “She’s then got to present a programme to parliament. “We will – obviously – amend the Queen’s speech. There’s a possibility of voting it down and we’re going to push that all the way. We have got a mandate to deal with issues of poverty, justice and inequality in Britain. We want to end austerity and invest in this country and that’s what we’re going to do. “Nearly 13 million people voted for us to do it. That’s why I’m here” .. Corbyn believes there is enough opposition in the rest of the House – and on May’s own backbenches – to defeat the government. That could trigger another election as the Tories would face a confidence challenge. The Labour leader is optimistic his progressive manifesto will attract enough support in parliament to propel him to power. -Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-vows-oust-theresa-10601306 |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 04:57 PM Post #5 |
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(The Guardian) Heseltine's interview on the Marr Show --Lord Heseltine, the Conservative former deputy prime minister, is on the Marr Show now. He has written an article suggesting the EU may offer the UK a better deal now, allowing it to stay in the EU without having to accept free movement. (In the paper review earlier George Osborne said he did not think this was realistic.) Heseltine says that if the Conservative party does not lance the boil of Brexit, Jeremy Corbyn will become prime minister. A deal with the DUP is inherently unstable, he says. He says he personally has more in common with Ruth Davidson, the Scottish Conservative leader, than with Arlene Foster, the DUP leader. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 04:59 PM Post #6 |
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(The Guardian) Fallon says May has agreed to work more collectively with cabinet ministers. --Sir Michael Fallon, the defence secretary, is on the Andrew Marr Show now. Relatively (few) cabinet ministers have been speaking in public since the election. He defends Theresa May’s decision to call the general election. Q: Do you believe you won the election? Fallon says the Tories won the most votes and seats. They have the right to form a government, he says. Q: Did you feel the prime minister was being a bit robotic during the campaign, and not engaging with people. Fallon says May took more questions from members of the public than Jeremy Corbyn did. Q: She did not answer them, though. Fallon says she tried to. Q: What will change? Fallon says there have already been personnel changes in Downing Street. (May’s co-chiefs of staff, Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill, have resigned.) He says May has agreed to adopt a more collective approach with cabinet ministers. He welcomes that, he says. Fallon says May has agreed to work more collectively with cabinet ministers. Q: How is May? There are reports she was in floods of tears as the results came in. Fallon says he does not know about that. She has government business to carry on. Fallon says the deal with the DUP is not a coalition. It is for a confidence and supply agreement. Q: Last night No 10 said we could report there was an agreement. At midnight the DUP said there wasn’t. It sounds like a coalition of chaos. Fallon says you cannot agree this in a day. But there is an agreement on principles. Q: Will the public get to see it? Yes, says Fallon. He says the DUP will support the government on big economic and security issues. Q: Are you repulsed by gay people? Fallon says just because the Tories have an agreement with the DUP, it does not mean they agree with the DUP on issues like this. Marr quotes from Ian Paisley Junior, a DUP MP, saying he is repulsed by gay people. Fallon says he does not agree with Paisley on this. He says the Tories have a close relationship with the DUP. They have more in common with them than with other parties. He says the Tories do not have to share the views of the DUP. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:02 PM Post #7 |
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(The Guardian) Q: The DUP is supported by people like the Ulster Volunteer Force and the Red Hand Commando. Do you regard them as terrorists? Fallon says the DUP is part of the parliamentary process. Q: Are you concerned by the DUP’s links with groups like that? Fallon says the DUP is committed to the peace process. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:04 PM Post #8 |
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(The Guardian) Fallon plays down prospect of government softening its Brexit stance Q: Ruth Davidson says the government should “look again” at Brexit. (George Osborne earlier said that he agreed, and that he thought Davidson would now be able to push for a softer Brexit.) Fallon says the government’s view on Brexit has not changed. Q: Philip Hammond has reportedly demanded a more business-friendly approach. Fallon says Marr does not know what Hammond has told the PM. Fallon plays down prospect of government softening its Brexit stance following the election result. Q: David Davis said on election night that the result would show whether people accepted the government’s desire for a Brexit involving leaving the single market and the customs union. Fallon says the parties opposed to Brexit did very badly in the election. Q: Osborne says May is a “dead woman walking”. Fallon says he does not agree. He says he expects Tory MPs to support her this week. Andrew Marr ends by thanking Fallon for coming on the programme. Many other ministers refused, he says. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:05 PM Post #9 |
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(The Guardian) Jeremy Corbyn's interview --Jeremy Corbyn is being interviewed now. Q: You say you can become prime minister. How? Corbyn says he does not see what the DUP has in common with the Tories. He suggests a deal cannot work. Q: But they have the numbers. Corbyn says he cannot see what they will put in a Queen’s speech. Labour’s agenda is clear, he says. Q: But you lost the election? We didn’t win the election, he says. But Labour had an incredibly good result, he adds. Q: You will put down an alternative Queen’s speech. Corbyn says Labour will put down a substantial amendment to the Queen’s speech motion, including elements from Labour’s programme, such as a jobs-first Brexit and guaranteeing the rights of EU nationals. **Corbyn says Labour will oppose Queen’s speech with amendment calling for jobs-first Brexit. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:08 PM Post #10 |
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(The Guardian) Q: Will you support the great repeal bill? Corbyn says he thinks that will become fascinating. Q: Have you thought of asking Sinn Féin to take their seats? Corbyn says he does not see any possibility of this happening. Q: Ruth Davidson says the parties should agree a joint approach to Brexit. Corbyn says he cannot see how this could happen. He says the Tory view is different to Labour’s. He says May is threatening to turn the UK into a tax haven. Q: Do you think there will be another this year? Corbyn says it is “quite possible” there will be another one this year, or early next year. We cannot continue like this, he says. **Corbyn says another election is “quite possible” this year. Q: Will you reach out to the Blairites and Brownites and others in the party who opposed you? Corbyn says he is “the most generous person in the world”. He will reach out. The party came together in the election, he says. **Corbyn suggests he will reach out to his Labour critics and invite them into his team. Q: What is your message to Theresa May? Corbyn says May said she wanted a personal mandate. She said “vote for me”, he says. He says he said vote Labour. She did not get that personal mandate, he says. Q: Are you in this for the long term? Corbyn replies: Look at me. I’ve got youth on my side. And that’s it. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:19 PM Post #11 |
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(The Guardian) John McDonnell's interview on Peston on Sunday --John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, is being interviewed on Peston on Sunday. He says he cannot see how the “coalition of chaos”, both within the Tory party and between the Conservatives and the DUP, can be stable. He says Labour does not want to do a deal with the SNP. It wants to put forward its proposal and get MPs to vote for it. He cites several issues where he thinks there is a majority in parliament for Labour’s policies, such as keeping the triple lock and winter fuel payments for pensioners. And he cites the bedroom tax as another example, saying the DUP are opposed to it. Q: Is Diane Abbott better? Or is she still standing aside from her job? McDonnell says she is not back yet. McDonnell says he does not expect big changes to the shadow cabinet. It is a “winning team”, he says. Q: Could Labour support staying in the single market? McDonnell says he cannot see that being on the table. Labour supports a “jobs-first Brexit”, he says. Q: So you would back Theresa May in taking us out of the single market? McDonnell says Labour wants to respect the results of the referendum. Staying in the single market would not honour that, he says. **McDonnell rules out Labour trying to keep UK in single market. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:21 PM Post #12 |
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(The Guardian) Brady says May must make government “more open and inclusive”. --Graham Brady, the chair of the Conservative backbench 1922 committee, is on the Sunday Politics now. Andrew Neil is interviewing him. Q: Many Tories have said to me Theresa May must never be allowed to lead the party into an election again. Do you agree? No, says Brady. Q: How should May change? Brady says there are many lessons to be learnt. He says the Tories can learn from Jeremy Corbyn’s style. He presented himself as avuncular, despite his extreme views. **Brady says May should learn from Corbyn’s ‘avuncular’ campaigning style. He says May can be relaxed in person. But that did not come across. And there has to be a “more open and inclusive approach” in government, he says. **Brady says May must make government “more open and inclusive”. He says he has told May to adopt this approach. May was due to speak to the 1922 committee on Tuesday. He is hoping that can be brought forward to Monday. Brady says he had a long conversation with May on Friday afternoon. Q: Did you tell her to make a second statement, after her first, robotic one outside Number 10 did not express regret. Brady says by the time he met May she had scheduled the second TV statement anyway. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:27 PM Post #13 |
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(The Guardian) Tory MP Anna Soubry says May is 'set to go' because her position is 'untenable' --Andrew Neil is now interview Anna Soubry, the Conservative MP, former business minister and prominent remain supporter. Q: On election night you said Theresa May should consider her position. Do you still think so? Yes, says Soubry. She says May has considered her position. She is “set to go in due course”. Soubry says she does not know when, but she says May’s position is “untenable”. Soubry says May’s claim that “no deal is better than a bad deal” was one of the reasons the Tories did not win the election. She says for the Tories turning their back on the customs union was “the stuff of madness”. Staying in the customs union would also solve the problem with the Irish border, she says. She also says the Tories need to recognise people’s concerns about public sector pay. May should listen more to Philip Hammond, she says. |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:28 PM Post #14 |
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Here's the Twitterverse's verdict on the Corbyn interview from Sunday morning.... |
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| Webster | Jun 11 2017, 05:29 PM Post #15 |
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--Dominic Raab says George Osborne is being "disloyal, unprofessional and pretty self-indulgent". Or "a journalist". (Kevin Schofield, Politics Home - 11 June 2017) |
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