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| Van Mows Down Pedestrians Near London Mosque | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 18 2017, 08:17 PM (248 Views) | |
| Webster | Jun 18 2017, 08:17 PM Post #1 |
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Breaking 911: Van Mows Down Pedestrians Near London Mosque, Massive Police Response![]()
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 12:57 AM Post #61 |
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--Terror attack outside #FinsburyPark mosque. Police must urgently review security for all mosques #StandTogether (Diane Abbott, Labour Shadow Home Secretary - 19 June 2017) |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 01:01 AM Post #62 |
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For more information...... (1) The Guardian live-feed (2) BBC News live-feed |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:17 AM Post #63 |
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...resuming coverage of last night's terrorist incident at Finsbury Park..... (The Guardian) Summary - 1:56am --A van has driven into a crowd of worshippers after they left a mosque in north London, killing one man and injuring eight other people in what police described as a “major incident”. --The counter-terrorism unit is investigating the crime, which took place on a street crowded by worshippers following Ramadan prayers. --Prime minister Theresa May said police were treating the incident in Finsbury Park “as a potential terrorist attack”. She said she would chair a meeting of the Cobra emergency committee the later on Monday morning. --Jeremy Corbyn, whose constituency includes Finsbury Park, has said he was “totally shocked”. --Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, has condemned the incident as a “horrific terrorist attack” on “innocent Londoners” and said police have been deployed extra police to reassure communities, especially those observing Ramadan. --London ambulance service said the eight injured were taken to three hospitals, and an unknown number of others were treated at the scene for minor injuries. --The van driver – a 48-year-old man – was arrested at the scene by the police after being detained by passersby. He has been taken to hospital as a precaution and will also undergo a mental health assessment. Police said they first responded to reports of a traffic collision at about 12.20am on Monday. --The white van hit people outside the Muslim Welfare House on Seven Sisters Road. Two witnesses reported seeing three people leave the van, however, police said no other suspects have been identified or reported to police. --The Muslim Council of Great Britain said the attack was ‘motivated by Islamophobia’. The Muslim Welfare House has called for calm. --Diane Abbott, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, which borders Finsbury Park, has called for a review of security for all mosques. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:18 AM Post #64 |
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(The Guardian) Witness Abdikadar Warfa said the van was driving at high speed down Seven Sisters Road and turned left down an alley. He said most of the victims were young, but an older man was among them. Speaking to the Press Association, he said: I saw a man underneath the van. He was bleeding. My friend said he had to lift the van. I was busy with a man who tried to escape. My friend said he said some words, but I didn’t hear it. They [people who were hit] were mostly young. They are very bad. I tried to stop him [the suspect], some people were hitting him but I said stop him and keep him until the police came. He was trying to run away but people overpowered him. He was fighting to run away. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:19 AM Post #65 |
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![]() --Statement by @Mwh_London on the terror attack on Muslim worshippers in the #FinsburyPark area outside Muslim Welfare House (Miqdaad Versi, Asst. Sec. Gen. Muslim Council of Britain - 19 June 2017) |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:25 AM Post #66 |
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(The Guardian) Pro-Islamic State channels are using reports of the incident in Finsbury Park to incite Muslims, according to groups which monitor jihadists. One pro-Isis post said “Oh Muslims you need to wake up the war starting on your own streets”. It also questioned why the police didn’t shoot dead the attacker. --UPDATE Example of posts re Finsbury Park incident on pro-Islamic State Telegram channels following suggestions the driver is not a Muslim (Michael S. Smith, II, Foreign Policy - 19 June 2017) --Pro-#ISIS Telegram Channels Use Reported Van Attack Outside #Finsbury Mosque to Incite Muslims (SITE Intel Group, 19 June 2017) |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:26 AM Post #67 |
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(The Guardian) Witness heard driver saying 'I want to kill Muslims' --The driver of the white van that ploughed into pedestrians was pinned to the ground by onlookers after saying: “I want to kill Muslims,” a witness has said. The witness, who wanted to be identified as Abdulrahman, which is not his real name, said he and his friends had stopped to help an elderly man who was lying on the floor at around 12.20am on Monday. “In seconds this terrible thing happened,”’ he told the Press Association. “Literally within a minute, a van with speed turned to where we were and ran over the man who was laying on the floor and the people around him, around eight people or 10 people got injured, some of them seriously. Thank God I’m safe, but my friends got injured.” The van driver was detained by members of the public after the attack in Seven Sisters Road. Abdulrahman said: I managed to get the driver of the van when he came out of his van. He wanted to run away and was saying, ‘I want to kill Muslims’. So he came back to the main road and I managed to get him to the ground and me and some other guys managed to hold him until the police arrived, for about 20 minutes I think, until the police arrived. People were very upset, people were shouting, people were saying, ‘where’s the police, where’s the ambulance?’ People were saying, ‘keep him on the ground’, people were asking questions, saying ‘why did you do this?’ People were laying down on the floor.” Abdulrahman claimed the driver said “kill me”, as he was holding his head on the ground. He added: “I said, ‘tell me why did you try driving to kill innocent people?’ When he went into the [police] van he made gestures, he was laughing. He deliberately did this. He caused this incident.” Abdulrahman said he believed the old man, who had been lying on the ground before the attack, had passed away, while some of his friends remain in hospital. Earlier an eyewitness told BuzzFeed that driver shouted “I want to kill all Muslims.” |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:27 AM Post #68 |
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(The Guardian) Londoners are 'nothing short of heroic', says Rudd --The home secretary, Amber Rudd, has defended the time it took for the authorities to declare this as a terrorist incident. Speaking to Sky News, she said: “We know that the police were on hand immediately. We know that they have treated it immediately as a suspected terrorist event. That is the normal procedure and we will see whether they confirm that later this morning.” She also paid tribute to the way Londoners had reacted to a series of recent incidents: Unfortunately we have again woken up to another terrible incident in London where a man has taken hold of a van and driven it into a group of innocent people in Finsbury Park. There is one fatal fatality that we know about and a number of casualties and the police are treating it as terrorist incident. Londoners have been hit with a series of attacks and have actually been nothing short of heroic. Rudd insisted that funds were available to help secure mosques. We will always make sure that everybody is protected. We have a places of worship fund which is there to protect places of worship like mosques and we will make sure that we do all we can to reduce these sort of attacks. We have made available £2.5m last summer, I recently announced who would be getting those additional funds, which included 12 mosques and I have reopened it recently to make sure that any additional place of worship that feels the need can apply for extra security. Asked whether the emergency services would be given extra funds, Rudd said: When we speak to emergency services during these series of attacks, we always ask them what additional support they. Actually they have generally confirmed to us that they do have sufficient resources because there is a kind of mutual aid that works of people supporting each other. It is working, but of course we will always keep it under review to ensure that our emergency services have all the support they need. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:30 AM Post #69 |
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(The Guardian) Tell MAMA, a group that monitors hate crime against Muslims, was at the Muslim Welfare House in Finsbury Park on Friday, informing the congregation about the need to report anti-Muslim hatred and offering advice on safety during Ramadan. Members of the congregation in the two mosques in the area are mainly from north and west Africa. The mosque has previously been targeted for anti-Muslim hate and has had white powder sent to it, causing security concerns. Tell MAMA staff also informed members of the local congregation about the need to maintain vigilance during Ramadan when many Muslims wear clothing which identifies them as Muslims. Speaking about the safety of mosques, the Director of Tell MAMA, Iman Atta, said: We have put out numerous safety leaflets to mosques to ensure vigilance so that congregations are safe. Ramadan is a time when Muslims are more visible and when there are larger congregations who attend late at night to pray after opening their fasts. Mosque safety needs to be stepped up and this includes entry and exit points. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:31 AM Post #70 |
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![]() (The Guardian) The streets around the junction of Fonthill Road and Seven Sisters Road are sealed off by a police cordon, and there is a heavy media presence. Abdikadir Warfa, who was just around the corner and witnessed the immediate aftermath of the attack, said the vehicle used to plough through people near the Muslim Welfare House, said it appeared a white lorry with yellow markings was used. “I think it was rented,” he said. “Everyone was lying on the street shouting, crying ‘help me’. I saw a man trying to run and everyone was trying to stop him,” he added. Four or five men were restraining him. “He was shouting something but I couldn’t hear.” Several people pointed out that had the collision taken place minutes earlier it would have caused even more harm, as people were already dispersing after prayers. A 22-year-old man, who asked not to be named, said he heard tyres screaming and saw the lorry “stuck on the barriers” where it had apparently swerved towards people. “People started screaming, saying we need help, call police, call an ambulance.” He saw people lying on the pavement. “Their families were crying. A lady was crying and saying, my brother, my brother, he can’t breathe.” People flagged down a police van that was passing along Seven Sisters Road and the eyewitness described how people handed over the suspected attacker. He showed videos filmed by his friends showing injured people lying in the street, one receiving CPR, and the suspect, a tall white man with dark hair wearing a black T-shirt, being put into the police van. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:32 AM Post #71 |
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(The Guardian) Driver arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, Scotland Yard says --Dep Asst Comm Neil Basu of the Metropolitan police, who is senior national co-ordinator for counter-terrorism policing, is giving a statement. He says it is too early to tell whether the man who died at the scene was killed in the attack. Eight others were taken to hospital. Two were treated at the scene. All of the victims were Muslim. The driver of the van has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, Basu said. Basu says the attack comes at a “challenging” time and the emergency services are stretched. He praises the way the community tackled the suspected attacker. The incident had all the hallmarks of a terrorist attack, Basu says. “There was no one else in the van,” Basu says. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:33 AM Post #72 |
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(The Guardian) Hassan Yassin, 28, from Enfield, was one of many who have come down to see what was happening in the aftermath of the attack. He said he feared it would only fuel extremism. “This will only fuel Muslim extremists to carry out more attacks. They will use that as a justification to carry out more attacks. Both [Muslim and non-Muslim communities need to work together.” Yassin said it was up to the mosques to debate those with radical views to persuade them that they were wrong. “Maybe a mosque will talk about this issue once a month - it’s not enough. You can’t deport an ideology; you can’t imprison an ideology; if you deport 3,000 suspects there will be another 3,000 on the streets tomorrow.” However, Yassin also said that work needed to be done to counter extremism in non-Muslim communities, where violent Islamophobia is increasingly taking hold. “There is an agenda from the rightwing media, I’m talking about people like Tommy Robinson and Britain First,” he said. “They go to the scene of an attack and say this is about Islam. Why is that not radicalisation? When you tell white men that this is Islam, that in its definition is radicalisation. You are telling people to hate us, to go overboard and to attack us. It’s extremism on both ends.” |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:34 AM Post #73 |
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(The Guardian) Yousif al Khoei, director of the Al Khoei Islamic Foundation, said he came to Finsbury Park in the early hours of the morning along with rabbis as part of a multi-faith response effort. “We are quite concerned that a state of frustration, anger and rise of extremism ... is quite detrimental to the peaceful existence people normally have in the UK, in London,” he said. “We have been worrying as faith community leaders. We have to ensure London remains peaceful, these extremists are isolated (and) we do not allow racism and islamophobia and antisemitism to take hold and we cannot allow these extremists to divide us.” He works with police and other faith leaders to try and ease such tensions, he added. “We make sure both the community and the police are aware of the concerns of each other,” he said. |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:34 AM Post #74 |
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![]() (The Guardian) The van involved is marked with the livery of Pontyclun Van Hire, which is based on an industrial estate close to the M4 12 miles west of Cardiff. A woman who answered the phone at the hire company’s offices said: “We’re not allowed to make any comment. You’ll have to try back later.” With its headquarters on the East Side Cambrian Industrial Estate, the company has been established for 25 years. Its website says it provides “quality vans, trucks and other vehicles for hire in the south Wales area.” |
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| Webster | Jun 19 2017, 09:36 AM Post #75 |
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(The Guardian) Bhai Amrik Singh, chair of the Sikh Federation (UK), said: “Our thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by the appalling incident at Finsbury Park.” “Worryingly vehicles in London have once again become the latest weapon in the hands of terrorists. Unfortunately this means every innocent pedestrian going about their daily lives has become a target. “The incidents in the last three months suggest there needs to be an honest dialogue and a fundamental shift in the way government tackles all forms of hate and terror. Hate and terror must be stamped out by directly confronting all those who promote an ideology and philosophy based on hate and terror. “Sikh teachings, history and the Sikh way of life offers not only hope, but direction on how to tackle hate and terror. Those making policies in governments across the globe need to draw upon belief systems and thinking designed to deal with hate and terror head on.” The European Jewish Congress also expressed shock and condemnation. “This is an unconscionable attack on Muslim worshippers during their holy month of Ramadan,” EJC President Moshe Kantor said. “We condemn this attack and its attempt to escalate tensions in the UK and we stand firmly besides our Muslim brothers and sisters in the aftermath of this attack.” “An attack on one religion is an attack on all religions and all people and faiths must stand together against terror.” |
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