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It is when she's above Jaime 
I don't see you docking Oenamaus any points because you don't get his relationship with Gannicus (Which is basically his only plotline after the first 3 episodes of Vengeance) Yeah, no. If IMDB is the most reliable fanbase, Stannis was the most popular character of GoT Season 3:
http://www.moviefancentral.com/oldkingclancy/top10s/28314 http://www.listal.com/list/favorite-characters-from-spartacus http://cityofangels.freeforums.org/spartacus-character-ranking-t3690.html - This ranking is literally 1000 different levels of insanity, but it does't make the author some teen girl http://www.iliketovote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=11419 - He beat out freaking Lucretia http://warofthedamned.freeforums.net/thread/782/favourite-characters
And notice how I actually DO like Oenamaus more because of it. In fact, his relationship with Gannicus is interesting no matter how dull his personality is. It tones down some in WOTD (also when his and Nasir's relationship is best written), though yeah. Never fully gone. Considering I don't like Agron all that much till Vengeance, it's probably my Jerk With a Heart of Gold fetish. I think his acting is why he's so much higher than Jared, whose only ever succeeded at being bland or annoying in EVERYTHING I have seen him in. I also admit Spartacus is the better character (and it's not close), but I also think Batiatus is an objectively better character than Spartacus, Crixus, and Ilithyia but I rank them over him. Some character types just appeal more to a person than others do. Considering you rank Lucretia behind Tiberius, Oenamaus, and Ashur, you should understand that 
Yeah, no. You're not gonna win Oenamaus vs. Lucretia by continuing to repeat his name.
Spoiler: click to toggle Lucretia has grown from a genuinely good-intentioned woman who only sought to aid and support her husband to the Lady Macbeth behind his schemes. Her best friend was murdered, leaving Lucretia to find the body, and it transformed her and her world entirely. She murdered her own stepdad for powerand vengeance, and proceeded to push Batiatus down a road to unintentional self-destruction. Not only that, but all the while Lucretia's struggling with feelings of her own lack of worth due to her lack of a prominent family and inability to produce a child. These feelings are compounded when she runs into Ilithyia, a woman who has more beauty and a higher social standing than Lucretia could dream of. Because of this, Lucretia becomes increasingly fixated on Ilithyia, she wants to embarrass her and ruin her without losing her, as Ilithyia is required to advance their social standing. This hatred is especially compounded when Ilithyia chooses Crixus to be the man she sleeps with, as Lucretia's affair with him, on her side, is more than just physical. She feels an emotional connection with Crixus and is genuinely hurt to learn that it isn't her he loves, but Naevia. She chooses to make their loves a living hell because of this, and ultimately attempts to have Crixus killed now that Spartacus has replaced him.
This all comes crashing down spectacularly in the Season 1 finale, when the massacre occurs because Lucretia unintentionally pushed her husband towards it. She's sealed into her fate by Ilithyia, the same woman she antagonized all throughout Blood and Sand. She's nearly-killed by Crixus, one of the only two people to hate Lucretia even more than Ilithyia. Watching her own husband die, the one person she truly loved, and losing her child is, in Lucy Lawless' words "a spiritual death for Lucretia." She is found as nothing more than a crazed shell of her former self, lacking purpose in life. Until she meets Ilithyia again, pregnant. Lucretia's entire goal has changed. She wants that child, needs that child, more than anything else, and Lucretia does whatever it takes to gain Ilithyia's trust. She fakes being an oracle of the gods, hoping that will gain her Ilithyia's favor and trust. When it doesn't, Lucretia attempts to fake regaining sanity and uses her own position to aid Ilithyia. She continually kisses Ilithyia's ass all season, changing from the woman that would mistreat and antagonize Ilithyia to her closest friend, a far cry from the Lucretia we saw in Blood and Sand. Not only that, but she allows the likes of Glaber and Ashur to abuse or rape her as well, seeing it as a crucial step to her goal, and one Lucretia succeeds in achieving. Ilithyia slowly lets her guard down, and Lucretia takes that chance to strike. She rips Ilithyia's baby out of her and takes it to her husband in the afterlife. She finally has the child she and her husband have been seeking before GOTA. The biggest cause of Lucretia's inferiority complex is gone in her mind, she's no longer a 40-50 year old woman incapable of birthing children, but a mother who will love her child until the end of time in the afterlife alongside her husband.
Um, yeah. More growth, full circle aspects, and development than Oenamaus had
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Jun 14 2014, 11:00 AM
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I'm sorry but I really don't care for Ken-Doll. He may have been developed, had interesting storylines, etc. but what good is it if he lacks a personality? At least to me.
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Jun 15 2014, 08:58 PM
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It is when she's above Jaime  I don't see you docking Oenamaus any points because you don't get his relationship with Gannicus (Which is basically his only plotline after the first 3 episodes of Vengeance) Yeah, no. If IMDB is the most reliable fanbase, Stannis was the most popular character of GoT Season 3: http://www.moviefancentral.com/oldkingclancy/top10s/28314http://www.listal.com/list/favorite-characters-from-spartacushttp://cityofangels.freeforums.org/spartacus-character-ranking-t3690.html - This ranking is literally 1000 different levels of insanity, but it does't make the author some teen girl http://www.iliketovote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=11419 - He beat out freaking Lucretiahttp://warofthedamned.freeforums.net/thread/782/favourite-charactersAnd notice how I actually DO like Oenamaus more because of it. In fact, his relationship with Gannicus is interesting no matter how dull his personality is. It tones down some in WOTD (also when his and Nasir's relationship is best written), though yeah. Never fully gone. Considering I don't like Agron all that much till Vengeance, it's probably my Jerk With a Heart of Gold fetish. I think his acting is why he's so much higher than Jared, whose only ever succeeded at being bland or annoying in EVERYTHING I have seen him in. I also admit Spartacus is the better character (and it's not close), but I also think Batiatus is an objectively better character than Spartacus, Crixus, and Ilithyia but I rank them over him. Some character types just appeal more to a person than others do. Considering you rank Lucretia behind Tiberius, Oenamaus, and Ashur, you should understand that  Yeah, no. You're not gonna win Oenamaus vs. Lucretia by continuing to repeat his name. Spoiler: click to toggle Lucretia has grown from a genuinely good-intentioned woman who only sought to aid and support her husband to the Lady Macbeth behind his schemes. Her best friend was murdered, leaving Lucretia to find the body, and it transformed her and her world entirely. She murdered her own stepdad for powerand vengeance, and proceeded to push Batiatus down a road to unintentional self-destruction. Not only that, but all the while Lucretia's struggling with feelings of her own lack of worth due to her lack of a prominent family and inability to produce a child. These feelings are compounded when she runs into Ilithyia, a woman who has more beauty and a higher social standing than Lucretia could dream of. Because of this, Lucretia becomes increasingly fixated on Ilithyia, she wants to embarrass her and ruin her without losing her, as Ilithyia is required to advance their social standing. This hatred is especially compounded when Ilithyia chooses Crixus to be the man she sleeps with, as Lucretia's affair with him, on her side, is more than just physical. She feels an emotional connection with Crixus and is genuinely hurt to learn that it isn't her he loves, but Naevia. She chooses to make their loves a living hell because of this, and ultimately attempts to have Crixus killed now that Spartacus has replaced him.
This all comes crashing down spectacularly in the Season 1 finale, when the massacre occurs because Lucretia unintentionally pushed her husband towards it. She's sealed into her fate by Ilithyia, the same woman she antagonized all throughout Blood and Sand. She's nearly-killed by Crixus, one of the only two people to hate Lucretia even more than Ilithyia. Watching her own husband die, the one person she truly loved, and losing her child is, in Lucy Lawless' words "a spiritual death for Lucretia." She is found as nothing more than a crazed shell of her former self, lacking purpose in life. Until she meets Ilithyia again, pregnant. Lucretia's entire goal has changed. She wants that child, needs that child, more than anything else, and Lucretia does whatever it takes to gain Ilithyia's trust. She fakes being an oracle of the gods, hoping that will gain her Ilithyia's favor and trust. When it doesn't, Lucretia attempts to fake regaining sanity and uses her own position to aid Ilithyia. She continually kisses Ilithyia's ass all season, changing from the woman that would mistreat and antagonize Ilithyia to her closest friend, a far cry from the Lucretia we saw in Blood and Sand. Not only that, but she allows the likes of Glaber and Ashur to abuse or rape her as well, seeing it as a crucial step to her goal, and one Lucretia succeeds in achieving. Ilithyia slowly lets her guard down, and Lucretia takes that chance to strike. She rips Ilithyia's baby out of her and takes it to her husband in the afterlife. She finally has the child she and her husband have been seeking before GOTA. The biggest cause of Lucretia's inferiority complex is gone in her mind, she's no longer a 40-50 year old woman incapable of birthing children, but a mother who will love her child until the end of time in the afterlife alongside her husband. Um, yeah. More growth, full circle aspects, and development than Oenamaus had I missed a friendship detail with Doctore, not his entire introduction and character arc. These guys can't be LGBT? And I trust IMDb a lot more than forums (hello FD3, greatest FD movie ever).
Wouldn't Spartacus, Crixus, and Illythia be the objectively better characters over Batiatus? His whole appeal is that he's fun to watch, he's not deep or anything.
I've been calling Oenamaus the second most developed since you brought up Lucretia. 
Ken, by "Ken-doll" are you referring to the bland guy with one facial expression that is only good at being handsome and smooching other bland things...much like a Ken-doll? I'm sorry, but referring to Oenamaus, whose actor could probably be accused of being OTT, as having "no personality", is kind of insane. Tell the truth, guise, it's the armor you don't like.
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Jun 18 2014, 02:09 PM
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I haven't voted yet, since I haven't finished Vengeane and WOTD. But as of right now, Gannicus.
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The steel was polished to such a high sheen that she could see her reflection in the breastplate, gazing back at her as if from the bottom of a deep green pond. The face of a drowned woman, Catelyn thought. Can you drown in grief? She turned away sharply, angry with her own frailty. She had no time for the luxury of self-pity.
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Jun 19 2014, 09:59 PM
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- Jun 14 2014, 10:43 AM
It is when she's above Jaime  I don't see you docking Oenamaus any points because you don't get his relationship with Gannicus (Which is basically his only plotline after the first 3 episodes of Vengeance) Yeah, no. If IMDB is the most reliable fanbase, Stannis was the most popular character of GoT Season 3: http://www.moviefancentral.com/oldkingclancy/top10s/28314http://www.listal.com/list/favorite-characters-from-spartacushttp://cityofangels.freeforums.org/spartacus-character-ranking-t3690.html - This ranking is literally 1000 different levels of insanity, but it does't make the author some teen girl http://www.iliketovote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=11419 - He beat out freaking Lucretiahttp://warofthedamned.freeforums.net/thread/782/favourite-charactersAnd notice how I actually DO like Oenamaus more because of it. In fact, his relationship with Gannicus is interesting no matter how dull his personality is. It tones down some in WOTD (also when his and Nasir's relationship is best written), though yeah. Never fully gone. Considering I don't like Agron all that much till Vengeance, it's probably my Jerk With a Heart of Gold fetish. I think his acting is why he's so much higher than Jared, whose only ever succeeded at being bland or annoying in EVERYTHING I have seen him in. I also admit Spartacus is the better character (and it's not close), but I also think Batiatus is an objectively better character than Spartacus, Crixus, and Ilithyia but I rank them over him. Some character types just appeal more to a person than others do. Considering you rank Lucretia behind Tiberius, Oenamaus, and Ashur, you should understand that  Yeah, no. You're not gonna win Oenamaus vs. Lucretia by continuing to repeat his name. Spoiler: click to toggle Lucretia has grown from a genuinely good-intentioned woman who only sought to aid and support her husband to the Lady Macbeth behind his schemes. Her best friend was murdered, leaving Lucretia to find the body, and it transformed her and her world entirely. She murdered her own stepdad for powerand vengeance, and proceeded to push Batiatus down a road to unintentional self-destruction. Not only that, but all the while Lucretia's struggling with feelings of her own lack of worth due to her lack of a prominent family and inability to produce a child. These feelings are compounded when she runs into Ilithyia, a woman who has more beauty and a higher social standing than Lucretia could dream of. Because of this, Lucretia becomes increasingly fixated on Ilithyia, she wants to embarrass her and ruin her without losing her, as Ilithyia is required to advance their social standing. This hatred is especially compounded when Ilithyia chooses Crixus to be the man she sleeps with, as Lucretia's affair with him, on her side, is more than just physical. She feels an emotional connection with Crixus and is genuinely hurt to learn that it isn't her he loves, but Naevia. She chooses to make their loves a living hell because of this, and ultimately attempts to have Crixus killed now that Spartacus has replaced him.
This all comes crashing down spectacularly in the Season 1 finale, when the massacre occurs because Lucretia unintentionally pushed her husband towards it. She's sealed into her fate by Ilithyia, the same woman she antagonized all throughout Blood and Sand. She's nearly-killed by Crixus, one of the only two people to hate Lucretia even more than Ilithyia. Watching her own husband die, the one person she truly loved, and losing her child is, in Lucy Lawless' words "a spiritual death for Lucretia." She is found as nothing more than a crazed shell of her former self, lacking purpose in life. Until she meets Ilithyia again, pregnant. Lucretia's entire goal has changed. She wants that child, needs that child, more than anything else, and Lucretia does whatever it takes to gain Ilithyia's trust. She fakes being an oracle of the gods, hoping that will gain her Ilithyia's favor and trust. When it doesn't, Lucretia attempts to fake regaining sanity and uses her own position to aid Ilithyia. She continually kisses Ilithyia's ass all season, changing from the woman that would mistreat and antagonize Ilithyia to her closest friend, a far cry from the Lucretia we saw in Blood and Sand. Not only that, but she allows the likes of Glaber and Ashur to abuse or rape her as well, seeing it as a crucial step to her goal, and one Lucretia succeeds in achieving. Ilithyia slowly lets her guard down, and Lucretia takes that chance to strike. She rips Ilithyia's baby out of her and takes it to her husband in the afterlife. She finally has the child she and her husband have been seeking before GOTA. The biggest cause of Lucretia's inferiority complex is gone in her mind, she's no longer a 40-50 year old woman incapable of birthing children, but a mother who will love her child until the end of time in the afterlife alongside her husband. Um, yeah. More growth, full circle aspects, and development than Oenamaus had
I missed a friendship detail with Doctore, not his entire introduction and character arc. These guys can't be LGBT? And I trust IMDb a lot more than forums (hello FD3, greatest FD movie ever). Wouldn't Spartacus, Crixus, and Illythia be the objectively better characters over Batiatus? His whole appeal is that he's fun to watch, he's not deep or anything. I've been calling Oenamaus the second most developed since you brought up Lucretia.  Ken, by "Ken-doll" are you referring to the bland guy with one facial expression that is only good at being handsome and smooching other bland things...much like a Ken-doll? I'm sorry, but referring to Oenamaus, whose actor could probably be accused of being OTT, as having "no personality", is kind of insane.  Tell the truth, guise, it's the armor you don't like.  Said friendship is literally all he's involved in for the entire 2nd half of Vengeance  Thus why I linked to FIVE different sites. Also, if we're going by IMDB boards, Stannis is the most popular character of Game of Thrones season 3 and Dany is the most hated character of the series.
John Hannah gave the best performance while Viva Bianca gave one of the worst. Plus, he is pretty well developed while still being fun.
Oh, I thought you were trying to he was the MOST developed and Lucretia was 2nd Speaking of, why's she behind him? More developed, more engaging and fun, and a much better actress.
"Ken Doll" is referring to his almost plastic abs/chest-plate (which I didn't pay much attention to till Kenny pointed it out) I don't deny he's well developed just.... he literally isn't engaging to me. At all. In any way. Agron really isn't half a bad as you try to make him out to be either I also don't get where you're saying he's almost OTT. At all. His performance was incredibly bland and forgettable  And ANOTHER link showing Agron is popular  http://www.fanpop.comwww.fanpop.comwww.fanpop.com/clubs/spartacus-blood-and-sand/picks/results/1183404/favorite-character
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Jul 4 2014, 01:21 PM
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Gannicus>Agron>Spartacus>Crixus for me. I do love them all, though.
Spoiler: click to toggle WOTD Crixus was just too compliant with Naevia and overlooking her mistakes.
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The steel was polished to such a high sheen that she could see her reflection in the breastplate, gazing back at her as if from the bottom of a deep green pond. The face of a drowned woman, Catelyn thought. Can you drown in grief? She turned away sharply, angry with her own frailty. She had no time for the luxury of self-pity.
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Jul 19 2014, 06:10 PM
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Forget about the bloody gods and lsiten to what I'm telling you
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Gannicus>Agron>Spartacus>Crixus for me. I do love them all, though. Spoiler: click to toggle WOTD Crixus was just too compliant with Naevia and overlooking her mistakes.
Spoiler: click to toggle WOTD is actually my fav season for Crixus and the reason I have him at 2nd. The Naevia stuff was annoying, but I loved his overall arc and his relationship with Spartacus
Glad to see another Agron fan too
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Oct 9 2014, 03:29 PM
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Spartacus.
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So hello from the other side I must've called a thousand times To tell you I'm sorry, for everything that I've done But when I call you never seem to be home
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Spartacus. Ranking?
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Oct 9 2014, 03:34 PM
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Spartacus>Gannicus>Crixus>Argon I think
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So hello from the other side I must've called a thousand times To tell you I'm sorry, for everything that I've done But when I call you never seem to be home
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