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Favorite Disney Movie?
Topic Started: Aug 23 2014, 09:35 PM (792 Views)
TheCheetahwings
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AmandaYoung
Sep 6 2014, 12:44 AM
TheCheetahwings
Sep 6 2014, 12:42 AM
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Sep 5 2014, 09:09 PM
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Sep 5 2014, 06:48 PM
Gaga didn't do it just to shock... before the performance she explained the song she was singing was about rape (since the song is about her being raped) and the "puking" was symbolic of the disgusting & horrific thing that happened to her, and the entire performance/song is chaotic and represents that. It was pretty blatant. So no it isn't just for cheap shock value.
So... she found a girl that pukes, thought it'd be shocking, and came up with a (very loose) way of tying it in. As for trying a higher profile place, the VMAs probably aren't fond of vomit art.

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2) Miley Cyrus acting sexual is not even the slightest bit shocking nor disturbing to me.


Repo also said this, but the thing is, eating a stranger's underwear isn't "sexual". It's a gross out. Just like getting vomited on.
So your writing off the entire explanation as something she came up with? Okay... this is clearly pointless. :rip:
Nnnnnnnnn the unintentional rudeness :rip:
In case you didn't notice, I did too. And I LIKE Gaga. And in our defense, you're also instantly accepting her explanation without putting any thought into "Well maybe she made it up for shock value?"
It wasn't rude at all. :wtf2: It's just clear if he isn't going to believe the story and meaning behind it (that she herself gave) there's literally no point in debating this (let ALONE in the Disney Movie thread :lolno: ). I don't see whats wrong with my statement?

With Gaga, I don't see how you can say you like her as a person and then go on to say she lied and used a story of her being RAPED as a desperate chase for attention and shock value. So if you don't believe it why do you like her at all as a person? You should hate her for being a disgusting attention seeking liar who uses rape stories for attention. Which is exactly what she is (if she actually is lying, like you seem to believe she is).

And as for me "instantly believing" and not putting any thought into my beliefs (which is honestly feels far ruder than me saying the debate was pointless...) It's not blindly believing her like it seems your implying, it's that I've been a fan for years & I trust her (and why shouldn't I?). But If your gonna call me a delusional fan then idk what else to say :rip:
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AmandaYoung
Sep 6 2014, 12:44 AM
TheCheetahwings
Sep 6 2014, 12:42 AM
Smeagollum
Sep 5 2014, 09:09 PM
TheCheetahwings
Sep 5 2014, 06:48 PM
Gaga didn't do it just to shock... before the performance she explained the song she was singing was about rape (since the song is about her being raped) and the "puking" was symbolic of the disgusting & horrific thing that happened to her, and the entire performance/song is chaotic and represents that. It was pretty blatant. So no it isn't just for cheap shock value.
So... she found a girl that pukes, thought it'd be shocking, and came up with a (very loose) way of tying it in. As for trying a higher profile place, the VMAs probably aren't fond of vomit art.

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2) Miley Cyrus acting sexual is not even the slightest bit shocking nor disturbing to me.


Repo also said this, but the thing is, eating a stranger's underwear isn't "sexual". It's a gross out. Just like getting vomited on.
So your writing off the entire explanation as something she came up with? Okay... this is clearly pointless. :rip:
Nnnnnnnnn the unintentional rudeness :rip:
"Unintentional". :P Ken, I read the explanation and it just sounded like a reach. Even if it weren't coming from someone who regularly uses shock tactics. I can't read her brain or put her on a lie detector so idk how else I should be evaluating it.

Back on topic, Frankenweenie (made by NBC's Tim Burton) was under the Disney label so I put it under my "traditional" pick. Subdivisions are Miramax, Dimension, Touchstone, Marvel, etc, and for them I put Pulp.
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TheCheetahwings
Sep 6 2014, 01:01 AM
AmandaYoung
Sep 6 2014, 12:44 AM
TheCheetahwings
Sep 6 2014, 12:42 AM
Smeagollum
Sep 5 2014, 09:09 PM
TheCheetahwings
Sep 5 2014, 06:48 PM
Gaga didn't do it just to shock... before the performance she explained the song she was singing was about rape (since the song is about her being raped) and the "puking" was symbolic of the disgusting & horrific thing that happened to her, and the entire performance/song is chaotic and represents that. It was pretty blatant. So no it isn't just for cheap shock value.
So... she found a girl that pukes, thought it'd be shocking, and came up with a (very loose) way of tying it in. As for trying a higher profile place, the VMAs probably aren't fond of vomit art.

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2) Miley Cyrus acting sexual is not even the slightest bit shocking nor disturbing to me.


Repo also said this, but the thing is, eating a stranger's underwear isn't "sexual". It's a gross out. Just like getting vomited on.
So your writing off the entire explanation as something she came up with? Okay... this is clearly pointless. :rip:
Nnnnnnnnn the unintentional rudeness :rip:
In case you didn't notice, I did too. And I LIKE Gaga. And in our defense, you're also instantly accepting her explanation without putting any thought into "Well maybe she made it up for shock value?"
It wasn't rude at all. :wtf2: It's just clear if he isn't going to believe the story and meaning behind it (that she herself gave) there's literally no point in debating this (let ALONE in the Disney Princess thread :lolno: ). I don't see whats wrong with my statement?

With Gaga, I don't see how you can say you like her as a person and then go on to say she lied and used a story of her being RAPED as a desperate chase for attention and shock value. So if you don't believe it why do you like her at all as a person? You should hate her for being a disgusting attention seeking liar who uses rape stories for attention. Which is exactly what she is (if she actually is lying, like you seem to believe she is).

And as for me "instantly believing" and not putting any thought into my beliefs (which is honestly feels far ruder than me saying the debate was pointless...) It's not blindly believing her like it seems your implying, it's that I've been a fan for years & I trust her (and why shouldn't I?). But If your gonna call me a delusional fan then idk what else to say :rip:
the way it was phrased came off a LOT meaner than what was meant. Lol. It more sounded like "ugh you're so biased it's not even worth trying to reason with you."

I didn't call you a delusional fan so please don't put words in my mouth. And I didn't say you put in no thought, I said you never have really considered the idea that these people lie to justify shock value :P Which is kinda true, when have you ever accused a celeb of lying about the explanation for a controversial event? Nothing wrong with that, some people just walk away with different interpretations of the same event.

We should get on topic tho, but it's not a Disney Princess thread
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You're also instantly accepting her explanation without putting any thought into "Well maybe she made it up for shock value?"


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I didn't call you a delusional fan so please don't put words in my mouth. And I didn't say you put in no thought, I said you never have really considered the idea that these people lie to justify shock value



How is that not saying I didn't put any thought into it? You literally say I'm instantly accepting and believing her explanation & not putting any thought into it. :rip: And you may not have called me a delusional fan directly but saying that I instantly believe her and don't put any thought into believing her is totally calling me a delusional stan. Especially when you say "in OUR defense, you didn't put any thought the fact that she made it up for shock value!". Which feels like singling me out as the Delusional Gaga Stan (and even though you like her she's not your FAVE like she is with me).

And you ignored the fact that Gaga lying about being raped for attention and shock value = makes her a terrible person, so if you believe it Idk how you can say she's a good person. :rip: :rip: :rip: :rip: :rip:
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You're also instantly accepting her explanation without putting any thought into "Well maybe she made it up for shock value?"


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I didn't call you a delusional fan so please don't put words in my mouth. And I didn't say you put in no thought, I said you never have really considered the idea that these people lie to justify shock value



How is that not saying I didn't put any thought into it? You literally say I'm instantly accepting and believing her explanation & not putting any thought into it. :rip: And you may not have called me a delusional fan directly but saying that I instantly believe her and don't put any thought into believing her is totally calling me a delusional stan. Especially when you say "in OUR defense, you didn't put any thought the fact that she made it up for shock value!". Which feels like singling me out as the Delusional Gaga Stan (and even though you like her she's not your FAVE like she is with me).

And you ignored the fact that Gaga lying about being raped for attention and shock value = makes her a terrible person, so if you believe it Idk how you can say she's a good person. :rip: :rip: :rip: :rip: :rip:
Well I'm sorry. That's not what I'm trying to say :rip: And I thought swift was your fav? Traitor.

No one said she lied about being raped. We said we don't think the vomit was thrown in for anything but cheap controversy REGARDLESS of her contrived explanation.

Anyways, can we get BACK ON TOPIC
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I suggested we get back on topic before you made a reply so I wasn't going to just ignore it. :rip: The last thing I'll say on the matter is I wasn't only saying that you were saying she lied about the rape. But attaching that story to what you call cheap controversy and a contrived explanation would also make her a pretty terrible person. IDK how you can possibly like her if you actually believe that. :shrug:


As for favorite Disney movie- Toy Story trilogy :legend:
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...NNN I just go to the last page of this thread and ?!?!?!?! :spideyup:
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Sep 6 2014, 08:03 PM
...NNN I just go to the last page of this thread and ?!?!?!?! :spideyup:
Moral of the story: don't ask what people think of a Disney song cover or you'll end up talking about religion and what constitutes rape symbolism. :emofish:
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I probz should move the posts or something :emofish:
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