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Most Underrated/Overrated characters?
Topic Started: Jun 3 2015, 05:40:42 AM (830 Views)
Bejita
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Dunno if a thread like this exists yet, so I made one. It should be fun. Who do y'all think is most underrated and overrated in DB/Z/GT?


For me:
Most Overrated: Freeza, Broly.
Most Underrated: Boo, Raditz.


I say this because both Freeza and Broly have so many dickriders, and I didn't find them interesting. Freeza isn't intimidating to me, and he sounds like a granny. Broly's backstory and overall character is boring. So... He is upset because Kakarot was crying as a child?... Kewl.


Boo and Raditz because I feel they don't get any love at all. I think that Boo is one of the top villains in the franchise, simply due to how drastically his personality changes, and Raditz is simply one badass motherfucker. The farmer's death will forever be the most epic DBZ defeat to me.
Edited by Bejita, Jun 3 2015, 05:41:23 AM.
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Demon Saiyan
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Overrated: Gotenks and Pan

Gotenks: Tons of fans believe Base Gotenks is stronger than Goku which is completely overrated.

Pan: Nowadays everyone place her as Ssjin4 tier idk.

Underrated: Gogeta and Boo Arc Goku

Gogeta always underestimate when it comes Boo Arc.

Goku: Same thing with Gogeta.
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Gin
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Overrated:Goku,Broly,Cell,Vegito

Underrated:King Cold,Raditz,Dabura
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Whipedkillsmiled
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Overrated: Broly, Gotenks
People think Broly can fight Gogeta there are literally people who think his power can gain to the point where not even Gogeta can take him.
Gotenks is just put extremely high in comparison to Buu arc Goku this is mainly because how happy Piccolo was when he sensed base Gotenks
Underrated: Gogeta, Fat Buu Pre and Post splitting
Gogeta is made 10 to 50 folds weaker than Vegeto for not sensible reason.
Majin Buu before splitting is highly underrated and people don't realise that because of his insane durability and the drainage of SSJ3 Goku had a chance loosing to him also it could've been extremely hard for Gotenks to beat him in SSJ
Post splitting people don't take into account that even post splitting he's stronger than an SSJ2.

Both underrated and overrated: Pan
Some think she's early Namek tier others think shes Gohan Buu tier
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Underrated:
- Dabra
- Majin Boo
- Krillin
- Piccolo

Overrated:
- Cell
- Broly
- Bardock
- Gotenks

Overrated and Underrated
- Gohan
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Mike
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Underrated would be the kids. I can't imagine how someone can actually let themselves believe the kids are Namek Goku tier / weaker than 1st form Freeza in base.

Overrated would be Super Vegetto. The excuses made to keep him above SVB1 get tedious after a while. Someone tell me how you look at this fight and conclude that Goku and Vegeta are even (especially since in the original Goku says Vegeta is MORE than an even match for him.)
Edited by Mike, Jun 3 2015, 07:52:52 PM.
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Fantastische Hure
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UnderRated: Farmer

He is a legend.
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Yusuke-sama
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This is strictly power related right?

Overrated: Gogeta, Broly, Tien

Underrated: Kids, Nappa, Freeza (RoF not included)
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Overrated:Gogeta, Tenshinhan, Broly, Post Z-Sword Gohan
Underrated:The kids/Gotenks, Krillin, Good Buu
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Overrated: Supreme Kai, Hercule
Underrated: Tien, Piccolo
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Kamikaze Pyro
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Overrated:

- East Kaioshin: It's not as commonly noticed, but it happens where he's perceived as Super Saiyan 2 tier due to holding Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan with his magic and surviving a nasty beatdown from Fat Boo. That kind of thinking would work if it wasn't his magic holding Gohan and Boo wasn't clearly toying with him.

- Vegetto: I dread Vegetto debates. He's heralded as the god of the series (because people like to ignore GT). He can do no wrong. He's invincible. You can put him up against anyone and he'll find a way to win because he's goddamned Vegetto. The fanboys of this guy are so hideously biased it's almost a pain to encounter them. Part of it is because he's comprised of Goku and Vegeta, so bias from those guys bleeds into him (the opposite for Gotenks, but we'll get to that later). Any excuse to keep this guy on top of the food chain can and will be used.

- Gogeta: This is basically the same as Vegetto. If it was stated in the manga that Gogeta was a fly compared to Vegetto, you can bet that would be ignored or called hyperbole so he could be placed second only to Godgetto. I can't decide whether his fanboys are worse than Godgetto's or not.

- Broly: The fanboyism used to be so much worse in the mid-2000s.

- Freeza: "He's the tyrant of the universe for a reason." Yeah, maybe until his story arc ended. Move on.

- Pure Boo: Final villain has to be the strongest, so many excuses and literature twisting, yada yada. It isn't bad when you've got a coherent, civil person to debate with, but people (you know who) that can't comprehend basic literary devices and rules should just be ignored.

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku: Same as Pure Boo.

- Tenshinhan: He's bald, stoic, loyal, always training, and farms and plays volleyball with Chaozu. "He held back Cell! omgzzz11!!" Awesome...now give the Shin Kikoho to Yamcha and let the nerfing unfold. I won't even get into the Krillin shenanigans.

Underrated:

- Goten/Trunks/Gotenks: It's pure bias against the characters at times combined with too much bias in favor of Goku. Debates about these characters are often filled with so much twisting and morphing of statements that you'd swear you were in a competition solely for that.

- Post-Boo Gohan: Sure, he's a pretty pathetic shell of his former Ultimate/Cell Games self, but the amount of nerfing I've seen for him in the past has bordered on disappointing. From outright ignoring the GT Perfect Files to simply making up random power placements for him, I think I've seen it all for this guy.

- Krillin: Usually in direct opposition of Tenshinhan bloating.

- Chi-Chi: Because she got one-shotted by wind and never did anything outside of filler/movies, people tend to ignore the rest of her fight with Goku at the 23rd TB, the praise she received, and the implications surrounding her entry into the tournament and even making it to fight Goku. Videl could beat her? Maybe in Universe 8 or something.
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No one said Super Android #13 is overrated yet. I am disappoint.
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Mike
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Underrated:

Rild - I don't really get why people are so insistent on him being comparable to Good Buu. You bring up Rild being stronger than Base Gohan and then the Gohan lost his Ultimate! argument comes up, despite him having his Ultimate-exclusive traits and being stated to train.

I really don't see why the writers would even hype a villain up so much if he was only comparable to one of the weakest Buus anyway.
Edited by Mike, Jun 5 2015, 10:39:20 PM.
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Underrated:
Yamcha - was always pretty unlucky so didn't get many chances to shine, resulting in him getting a lot of disrespect from fans. He was like the research case in a bunch of arcs (21st Budokai fighting Jackie Chun, 22nd Budokai fighting Tenshinhan, 23rd Budokai fighting Kami, Vegeta Saga finding out the Saibamen self-destruct, Android Saga finding the androids/Dr Gero).
Chichi - kicked ass in the 23rd Budokai and was p4p most beautiful chick ("hot" feels a bit off) in the series for a bit


Overrated:

Vegeta - lol ima spam weak ki attacks for the kazillionth time and then get owned
fight iq just a bit overrated
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Bejita
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SUPAH SAIYUH PEEPUL!

Yusuke: I was talking in general, not strictly power related, no.
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Overrated:

Goku - In general, from excuses to keep him powerful enough to keep up with SSJ3 Gotenks (which mostly involves outright IGNORING statements) to calling him a genius for the most basic crap a third grader writing horrid AF-esque fan fiction could think of.

Vegeta - The supposed "battle genius" has done nothing more than throw dirt in people's eyes and take his toys home when no one wants to play his way, most of his tactics backfire and result in him getting his ass handed to him on a silver platter. This is the equivalent of saying a Yugioh duelist is a genius for putting up a few Dark Bribes and having a Compulsory Evacuation Device on hand while his monsters get utterly destroyed.
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Most? Couldn't say...
A lot for each though.
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Underrated
Gohan - Reportedly, isn't stronger than Goku during the Cell Games (except SSJ2, but that's an unfair advantage) and also isn't stronger than Goku with his power taken beyond its limits, or if he is, that makes him a Mary Sue because he's too powerful for the plot. Of course, this doesn't apply to Goku because he earned his power; I guess the gibberish explanation for him not killing Fat Boy is satisfying as long as you direct your scrutiny and skepticism in only one direction.

Androids (#19/#20) - Most of this likely comes from Freeza fanboys. Sure they were irrelevant, had stupid designs and were pushovers, but that doesn't make them weaker than Freeza, no matter how much more intimidating he might be. Freeza became a clown after Trunks raped him. Yes, he's still a clown to this day.

Broly - Weaker than MSSJ Gohan.

Kami - Thanks, guidebooks! If you can fuck that one up, you can fuck anything up.

Overrated
Broly - Only ever uses 1% of his power.

Gogeta - Anyone who says he's equal to Vegetto.

Mr. Popo - Thanks, TFS!
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Ah, yeah, I was also going to put Broly on both sides of the coin but opted not to for some reason.

Super Android #13 is usually overrated, to tag onto Yoshi's post. I once had a debate with someone on a now-defunct forum from way back in the MFG days where he said 13 was retardedly strong because of the way he was defeated.

"Goku had to absorb a Spirit Bomb and 13's skin was literally MELTING OFF. Have you EVER seen that before or after? No, because 13 was just that strong and required such a high level of defeat. He'd rape Semi-Perfect Cell for sure and probably be able to fight Perfect Cell too, maybe win."

The same guy overrated the hell out of Broly too. He was one of those "Broly one-shotted the galaxy" guys, and even after I showed him the Japanese subs, explained over and over that the destruction was in present tense over time, and even went so far as to explain centrifugal force and planets flying out of whack, he still was adamant that Broly one-shotted the galaxy. It was one of the longest back-and-forth and infuriating debates I've ever had because of how blatantly stubborn the guy was. A couple people from MFG tried helping shut the guy up but they eventually got tired of it as well. To make matters worse, his username was based off of some super smart historic guy (can't remember what it was), and he was well-respected on that forum, probably because he could articulate himself well because it couldn't be because of how intelligent he was if he was that misguided.
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I've seen many people say that they find people who overrate 13's power, but I don't really remember ever coming across these people myself.

Speaking from less of a power standpoint and more of a character one:

Overrated

Broly
So popular that he got 3 movies. It's easy to see why: he's shown to be incredibly powerful and therefore comes off as quite badass in at least his first two movies. But I find him bland and his story nonsensical, even by DBZ's more simplistic standards.

So, he remembers an infant Goku's crying making him upset when he was also an infant? Okay. He knew that it was Goku despite being incapable of looking over his crib/cradle/whatever he was in to take a look at the source of his annoyance? Okay. Fine. Let's grant for the sake of argument that this is cool. Now, he holds a greater grudge against Goku than he does Vegeta? Nope. Not buying it. You could say Vegeta never did anything directly to him, meanwhile Goku humiliated his infant power-level-of-10,000 self (uhh...). I'd say it's still far more believable that a grudge he holds against King Vegeta would be transferred over to his nigh identical looking son. Goku making him cry is trivial in comparison and a ridiculous motivation that I can't get behind.

On top of that, he's boring. I'll admit that I can sometimes get hyped when he's kicking ass in M8, although that still took up like half the film. The novelty wore off. And then in M10 he's a bumbling shadow of his former self ego does the same shit. And then there's Bio Broly...

Tenshinhan
Seems to be the fan favorite among the humans. I won't bother arguing against that, but I still think he's overrated in general.

Aside from being shafted post-Piccolo (nice moment of sacrifice against Nappa though I suppose), I find him overrated in his own arc. He's one of the few characters Toriyama tries to develop, and I think it just falls flat to an extent. My issue can be summed up like so: it's too rushed and forced. Roshi lectures him and because he's Roshi, his words get stuck in Ten's head. His very next fight is with Goku and even after attempting to kill him once, he suddenly decides that he wants to fight fair and square after some fighting. This is supposed to be due to Roshi's influence. But it came up too suddenly, too out of the blue, so it's jarring. On paper it was a good idea, but it was handled poorly.

Aside from that, he gets overrated power-wise just because of the Kikoho. I dislike seeing the Kikoho on Cell being brought up as a power feat so often.


I'll do underrated later, I'm on my phone and this is too hard. If there are mistakes in there then that's why.
Edited by Kyo, Jun 6 2015, 02:09:16 AM.
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