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Was Cell truly a Solar System Buster
Topic Started: Aug 30 2015, 01:18:16 PM (237 Views)
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What do you guys think?
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What I'm going to say is pretty unpopular but... until there is a shown feat or mention of a lost solar system due to Cell. I ain't believing it. Same thoughts on Beerus supposedly having universal power as well as Pure Boo.
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I wouldn't disregard a feat simply because it was thwarted. I take the feat at face value as I would take Semi Cell's claim that he could blow up the Earth at face value.
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Aug 30 2015, 01:35:40 PM
I wouldn't disregard a feat simply because it was thwarted. I take the feat at face value as I would take Semi Cell's claim that he could blow up the Earth at face value.
Fair enough, but at the same time Semi-Cell's is backed up by the fact much weaker fighters are capable of and have been blowing up planets.
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True, but then you'd need to disregard Saiyan saga Vegeta's Earth busting feat simply because that hadn't happened before. The "much stronger fighters never blew up solar systems" thing also never held too much weight for me personally due to Fat Boo destroying a fraction of the Earth and Ultimate Gohan's blast only blasting a hole in the Earth and whatnot. Just shitty consistency for the sake of plot.
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Kenshi
Aug 30 2015, 02:00:02 PM
True, but then you'd need to disregard Saiyan saga Vegeta's Earth busting feat simply because that hadn't happened before.
The one difference is that Goku believed it. The scene with Cell works whether he's actually capable of doing what he says or not. The same cannot be said of Vegeta's attack.

Personally, though I don't see a problem with Cell being able to do it. He said so, and I don't see any reason for him to lie.
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I'm not exactly opposed to the idea that Vegeta may have been lying. I'd be willing to do that if only to keep consistent on my thoughts on statement vs feats. Although Future brought up a way to back up Vegeta's statement.

The whole Cell solar system thing is thrown out of wack when SSJ2 Gohan throws a competitive KHH right back at Cell, and when the thing does win out the explosion doesn't even take out a planet. I understand controlling the ki and everything but he's apparently throwing out another KHH that apparently has enough force to "blow away the solar system." yet the best thing he did was blow over some trees and mountains.
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Bills so far is the only destroyer Solar System in an instant. Well anyone on their level.
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FutureProtagonist
Aug 30 2015, 02:03:34 PM
Kenshi
Aug 30 2015, 02:00:02 PM
True, but then you'd need to disregard Saiyan saga Vegeta's Earth busting feat simply because that hadn't happened before.
The one difference is that Goku believed it. The scene with Cell works whether he's actually capable of doing what he says or not. The same cannot be said of Vegeta's attack.

Personally, though I don't see a problem with Cell being able to do it. He said so, and I don't see any reason for him to lie.
No one called it out as a bluff when Cell claimed that though. Despite Cell's egocentricity he was capable of acknowledging Gohan's power was above his prior to the Zenkai, so from a writing perspective I doubt he'd overstate his destruction capacity at this time and stage.

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The whole Cell solar system thing is thrown out of wack when SSJ2 Gohan throws a competitive KHH right back at Cell, and when the thing does win out the explosion doesn't even take out a planet. I understand controlling the ki and everything but he's apparently throwing out another KHH that apparently has enough force to "blow away the solar system." yet the best thing he did was blow over some trees and mountains.


Cell's statement was specifically that he had enough ki to wipe out a solar system. Not that he was attempting to do so at that moment. Personally any explanation ranging from being able to do so with a 23rd Budokai Piccolo's explosion type of attack or simply detonating the sun with enough force to destroy all the nearby planets worked for me.
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Aug 30 2015, 02:43:11 PM
Bills so far is the only destroyer Solar System in an instant. Well anyone on their level.
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What's the point of Cell saying this anyway? Is blowing up the Earth not enough? Like, if Cell said "I'll blow up this planet!" Would Goku have simply been like "Well, shit, at least Neptune will be alright. Nothing to worry about."

As far as comparing Vegeta's claim of blowing up the Earth to semi-Cell, even if Vegeta was lying, we know for a fact that Final Form Freeza can do it, so I see no reason to doubt Semi-Cell.



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Beerus having universal DC was a shitty mistranslation by elspark iirc, Dragon Team made it to planet. In the latest ep tho, the solar system proposed DC is said by Beerus himself rather than Whis now. To answer the question, Cell was probably a sun-buster imo
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Aug 31 2015, 12:22:14 AM
Beerus having universal DC was a shitty mistranslation by elspark iirc, Dragon Team made it to planet. In the latest ep tho, the solar system proposed DC is said by Beerus himself rather than Whis now. To answer the question, Cell was probably a sun-buster imo
He has to be more than a Star-Buster becausr it was stated that Frieza is a star-buster
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Here's my idea on what Super Perfect Cell is:

He is most like a multi-star buster/low-level solar system buster. What I mean by that is that, hypothetically, he COULD blow up the Solar System, but it's unlikely, and it's more likely that he can wipe out a large star, much larger than the Sun.

Even if he could, Whis' statement about Beerus' solar system wipeout is more impressive because of its SPEED IMO.

Think about it: Whis states that Beerus could wipe out a solar system faster than a person could say, "Ah." (That's the literal Japanese translation). That implies that, with only a tiny bit of power, Beerus could wipe out the entire Solar System...in only a few seconds.

To put that into perspective, Frieza's destruction capabilities<<<Semi-Perfect Cell's capabilities because Frieza's capabilities require a long amount of time, whereas Cell could probably finish the job in only seconds.

In other words, it's not just the capability, it's the speed of it as well.
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