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| Hatzegopteryx | Jun 17 2014, 12:41 AM Post #1 |
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| Mechafreezer | Jun 18 2014, 07:14 AM Post #2 |
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The dinocrocuta's bite likely has more crushing power, but I think the Hyaenodon's would be more actually damaging overall. If I remember correctly, there is not much of a size difference between these two. |
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| Hatzegopteryx | Jun 18 2014, 04:56 PM Post #3 |
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Yep, the size disparity isn't that considerable, depending on the sizes we take. |
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| Ausar | Jun 19 2014, 12:21 AM Post #4 |
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According to blaze on Carnivora, both might be around the same size, so this should probably be a more or less even fight. I'll see if I can do something on their bite forces later. Edit: according to the 'New Bite Force Study' on Carnivora, a 63.1 kilogram spotted hyena had a bite force of ~565.7N at the canine tips, and scaling that to ~200 kilograms (the probable real size of Dinocrocuta gigantea according to blaze) gives a bite force of ~1221N (rounded) for the percrocutid at the canine tips. Now, they're not in the same family, but it should give you a rough idea, given how hyena-like the Percrocutidae were. I read that Stephen Wroe calculated a ~60 kilogram Hyaenodon horridus to have a bite force of ~2650N at the canines. Scaling that to ~200 kilograms gives you ~5913N (rounded). Going from what I've posted, I think Hyaenodon might win, as both rely on bite force to make their bites potent, and from what I said above, the creodont (clearly) has more of it. Edited by Ausar, Jun 19 2014, 02:57 PM.
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| Hatzegopteryx | Jun 19 2014, 12:58 AM Post #5 |
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What formula did you use? I got a different result. Welcome to the forum btw.
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| Ausar | Jun 19 2014, 02:54 PM Post #6 |
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((cube root of (200/63.1))2)* hyena bite force 600/63.1=3.169572107765452. Cube root of that is 1.468926995170878. That squared is 2.157746517141745*565.7=1,220.637204747085 Newtons. That's how I got it. And thanks.
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| Hatzegopteryx | Jun 19 2014, 07:15 PM Post #7 |
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Ah, that's correct. I just calculated it again myself and got your result, I guess I just had a minor mistake in my calculation. And no problem! |
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