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SuperNatural
Topic Started: Nov 3 2005, 09:26 PM (864 Views)
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This topic is too vague, it completely depends upon your definition of supernatural.
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Air Grady
Nov 5 2005, 01:01 AM
This topic is too vague, it completely depends upon your definition of supernatural.

then espress your feeling in your own definition.
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Cyrus


Time Travel:
Why the heck would anybody want to go back in time when there's chaos theory?

Dragons:
The "Giant Flying Lizard" has traveled through many cultures. It's a popular idea. It's so popular that it's taken many forms.

Prophecies:
Real to an extent. There were certain people like Nostradamus who were very logical and good at predicting what the future would be like. Three evil's? Do you think there will be three people who most other people hate in the next 100 years? Flying machines dropping explosives? As a long sought human ambition to fly, do you think there will be flying machines in the future? And of course they'll have some sort of military application. Flight gives an advantage on the battlefield.
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I think that some supernatural stuff do exist. Just... not bigfoot. And why would anyone want to travel through time? What's done is done, live with it.
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Nostadamus was so vague, his soppused prophecies can mean anything. Really, anything. He's so metaphorical, he soppusedly predicted Napolean, Clinton, Hitler, and Charlemange in the SAME PROPHECY. <_< It's not real, some guy craving attention. I must admit, the book written in 1890's entitled The Titan, has STRIKING resamblance to the events of the Titanic.

Biblical prophecies are kinda the same thing, but different too. They're hard to understand, because half of the time, Isiah refers to Isreal, and the other half is Jesus, and he uses them interchangibly. But I don't think it's coincidence that Isiah describes crucifiction seven hundred years before it was invented.

Uri Gellar used telekinesis, making stopped clocks work and spoons to bend, on stage, LIVE, and filmed. He only failed once, and it was later discovered the clock was failed with cement, making it impossible.

NDE's are real, or at least the people who experience them believe they are. Most lie detectors and psychaiatrists prove that.

Dragons are scientifically possible. Scientists have created working "Dragons". Most dragons exhibit the same triats in legends. It's a wierd thing to think of your own. Unicorns even to an extent.

ESP is quite fascinating to study. Mind-Reading has been seen in people, mostly men for some reason. Ironically, those who have the skill tend not to show them and sometimes push away the skill.

Having seen two ghosts, that's all the proof I need. But really ghosts are the hardest to confront because it's religous poison. I subscribe to a lenient interpretation of the Bible, believing that Hell doesn't exist as a fiery inferno but an enternal life on earth, never able to escape. It'd give more about that, but I'd rather this didn't become religously oriented.

Many people have used Ouija boards, no one really explains why they work. Go out and buy one, they do work.

Crop circles I'm willing to be lenient with. I suppose they might be extraterrestiral, maybe even the Nazca Lines.

Even atheists don't doubt the existance of Stigmata, they instead try to find scientific explanations.

Personally, I prefer proof before I believe something.

EDIT: Forgot Bermuda Triangle: Real I guess, although i can't think of an explanation why.
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Please keep Christian bashing to a minimum. This is mainly the American South (and mainly Evangelical death cults), which is similar to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

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Clones are create and people can't bore a clone. Scientifically they are called born and not created. The only way to pre-determine their genes is if they are already out in the world usually in a pod that would resemble the sac in a mothers womb. Take Star Wars for example.

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Most people give themselves stigmata. Crazy Christians who want to show others that they have suffered.

Can you share your ghost stories, please?
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Aliens: Real. The probablities speak for themselves.
I agree the exist, but I wouldn't call it supernatural.
Near Death Experiences: Real. They've been documented and are shown to have
extreme personal effects on those who experience them.
Real, I can almost die.
Zombies: Not real. Never any proof.
FAKE
Levetation: Not Real. No Proof.
FAKE
Invisibility:Not Real. Impossibility.
FAKE
ESP:Real. It has been recorded to the point past improbabilities.
Fake. No one can clearly make a prediction and be right. There are too many factors that pool in and while some may be correct, many aren't.
Telekinesis: Real. Uri Gellar could utilize whenever he wanted.
Fake. That means you could displace matter with your mind.
Bigfoot and Nessie: Not Real. No proof.
Faker than Fake
Werewolves: Not Real. Only Rumors.
FAKE
Dragons: Once Real, Now Extinct. The possibilities of every civilization forming a legend about gigantic fire breathing beast is almost as unlikely as the Aztecs forming their own legend about a man very similar to Jesus and exhibting genetic links to Jews.
FAKE. While I'd love to believe, there are no bones or traces anymore, you'd think if it was only as recent as the early 1100's we'd have traces.
Time Travel: Not Real, never will be. Whatever Einstien may say.
FAKE. While the idea is cool, it couldn't happen. Time is only existant because we made it that way.
Shroud of Turin: Not Real. Been disproven.
Unknown, I've neve heard of this.
Crop Circles: Not Real. Pranksters.
FAKE. If the lasers were that powerful, they would have scorched earth.
Ghosts: Real. They've been documented, firm disbelievers have collapsed after seeing only one.
FAKE. Dellusions are real, but ghosts are a fine excuse to explainthe unexplained.
Ouija Boards: Probably. What else would make them work.
FAKE. Again, I can go over letters and say that somethign will happen.
Stigmata: DEFINATELY. There is little doubt from documented cases.
FAKE. TWant me to make cuts in my hand, I';ll gladly do it.
Marian Apparations: Probably not. If God were to send an apparation, why not Jesus? Why Mary?
REAL. Imagination is Limitless, no?
Prophesies: Biblical, yes. All others, no. I haven't seen much proof to the contrary.
FAKE.


Everything exists in mental reality on that list, I'm referring to Physical Reaility.
Neon,June 8 2005
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Stigmata...
Have been recorded to bear no evidence of self-infliction
ALWAYS follow periods of intense medetation
Have never been able to heal by conventional means.
On one occasion it wouldn't go away until St. Francis prayed for them to do so.
Never give off smells typical of wounds, never smell.
On two occasions, the stigmata gave off flowery and wholesome smells.
Although hundreds of stigmata have been recorded over the ages, the Catholic Church only records those that have been proven not to be in anyway not "divinely induced."
Stigmata may not nessecarily be Christian. They have been recordings of a pigeon recieving the exact stab wound of another, not being able to heal and not smelling, and a stigmata resembling the battle scars of Mohammad.

Therefore, Stigmata are
1. NOT self-induced. Most occured to common peasents who had never heard of stigmata and being illiterate had no way to. Unless the pigeon stabbed itself. :ph43r:
2.NOT definate proof of God. The varrying forms seem to indictae that they are not divine in nature, unless Allah and God are double teaming us or you believe, like me that they are one and the same. Unfortunately, I believe Mohammad is a fraud, so meh.
3.NOT Psychosymatic. Of One hundred people hypnotized to believe that they could make themselves bleed through their wrists and feet, none did. Granted, one did develop red sores on his arms, although they believe it was unrelated. And of course, pigeons aren't the brighest creatures on the block.
4.DEFINATELY supernatural. Most people tend to deny this because its the same as saying God exists, but as i stated before, it's not really conclusive at all.

I did my homework on this one.

I love how Reaver more or less denied everything. :)

Watch as I magically prove telepathy and mind reading in one!
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Professor Victor Weisskopf physicist who studied under Niels Bohrr worked on the A bomb and over saw the development of European atom smashers.
"I was shocked and amazed how Mr Geller bent my office key at MIT while I was holding it. The sturdy key kept bending in my hand; I can not explain this phenomenon I can only assume that it could relate could relate to quantum chromo dynamics".
From George Edward Pake, appointed to the President of the United States Science Advisory Committee and the inspirational creator and Sounding Research Director of the Xerox Corporation, Palo Alto Research Centre Parc and member of the American Physical Society "I met Mr Geller while he was being studied at SRI during our conversation he demonstrated his mind reading techniques and plucked out of my mind an image I was thinking of, it was very impressive"

Jack Sarfatti - PhD, Physicist "My personal judgement as a PhD physicist is that Geller demonstrated genuine psychoenergetic ability at Birkbeck which is beyond the doubt of any reasonable man, under relatively well-controlled and repeated experimental conditions. ".

"I have spent my life in neuropsychiatry and have been interestedin strange mental states and odd phenomena for a number ofyears. I first met Uri three years ago and was able to watchhim bend a spoon on a colleagues's outstretched hand. I tooka spoon from the table. Uri did not touch it, I put it on my colleagues's hand and asked Uri to bend it. Uri ran his finger above the spoon and stood back. Nothing happened. We expressed some dissapointment, still watching the spoon. He said, Wait and Watch. Slowly, as we watched, with Uri standing well away, the spoon started to curl in front of us, and within four minutes the tail of the spoon had risen up likea scorpions sting. I then took the spoon, the first time I had handled it since I put it there, and sure enough, it remained a normal spoon with a marked bend. "Dr.Peter Fenwick. MB, BChir, DPM, FIRCPsych
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Please keep Christian bashing to a minimum. This is mainly the American South (and mainly Evangelical death cults), which is similar to Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Touching.

Scientology
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Clones are create and people can't bore a clone. Scientifically they are called born and not created. The only way to pre-determine their genes is if they are already out in the world usually in a pod that would resemble the sac in a mothers womb. Take Star Wars for example.

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Stigmata is a strange scientific phenomenon. Padre Pio was a well known father with stigmata, and was ordianed into sainthood. Then agian, many people have admitted their hoaxes. Hypochondriacs will just want the attention and pierce themselves. Then again, there are are also other signs of the stigmata like whiplashes, wounds in the head supposedly form a Crwon of Thorns, and a wound in the side from a spear. Honestly, I think this is one of those issues that relies on faith.
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It really does rely on faith. There has been plenty of evidence that bigfoot exists. There has also been a lot of evidence that telepathy and mind-reading exist. So which to believe? Telepathy puts people in the spot-light, and it's a form of entertainment.
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I have no Idea what Stigmata is...But I know what the rest is, ghosts are real, every creature exists in either physical or mental reality, I don't believe in that phycic crap, its just a bunch of Bullshit, and I am pretty sure Aliens don't exist.
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I love how Reaver more or less denied everything.  :)
Oddly enough I take that as a compliment.

I'm still skeptical about the mind-reading trick, and as a few people have said, people have come forth with faking stigmatas. What about the people who didn't?
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RabiestheOstrich
Nov 8 2005, 08:46 PM
I have no Idea what Stigmata is...But I know what the rest is, ghosts are real, every creature exists in either physical or mental reality, I don't believe in that phycic crap, its just a bunch of Bullshit, and I am pretty sure Aliens don't exist.

God, you make me look smart... <_<

Stigmatas are the wounds on Jesus' hands and feet.[/defintionfrom the top of my head]

Everybody, its ok to call Rabies stupid, Reaver doesn't care. XD


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Aliens: Real. The probablities speak for themselves.
Real.
Near Death Experiences: Real. They've been documented and are shown to have
extreme personal effects on those who experience them.
Real.
Zombies: Not real. Never any proof.
FAKE
Levetation: Not Real. No Proof.
FAKE
Invisibility:Not Real. Impossibility.
FAKE
ESP:Real. It has been recorded to the point past improbabilities.
Fake.
Telekinesis:
Fake
Bigfoot and Nessie: Not Real. No proof.
Faker than Fake
Werewolves: Not Real. Only Rumors.
FAKE
Dragons:
FAKE
Time Travel:
Fake
Ghosts:
Fake
Stigmata:
Real
Prophesies: Biblical, yes. All others, no. I haven't seen much proof to the contrary.
Nope


I think I have more fakes then reaver did.. B|
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Bosco
Nov 8 2005, 09:23 PM
I think I have more fakes then reaver did.. B|

Nope, you didn't. Just one less.
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I don't believe in much of that.

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Aliens: Real. The probablities speak for themselves.
This is probably one of the most likely that has no real proof out there. Although being a skeptic, this one has to be proven before I believe it.
Near Death Experiences: Real. They've been documented and are shown to have
extreme personal effects on those who experience them.
I'm not totally sure how this is Supernatural. People can almost die but not die.
Zombies: Not real. Never any proof.
Again, one that I would love to believe
Levetation: Not Real. No Proof.
I doubt it.
Invisibility:Not Real. Impossibility.
I doubt it again.
ESP:Real. It has been recorded to the point past improbabilities.
I have no clue really.
Telekinesis: Real. Uri Gellar could utilize whenever he wanted.
I'd say I kinda believe it. I'm actually quite a believer in mind over matter, its worked for me many times (not telekinesis of course).
Bigfoot and Nessie: Not Real. No proof.
Being in the northwest, there are a lot of claimed Big Foot sightings around here. My dad has a picture that is just a forest, but looking to the back there what looks a great deal like a dark creature between two close trees. Theres really no saying what this is, but who knows.
Werewolves: Not Real. Only Rumors.
False, they are actually lions (see Brotherhood of the Wolf).
Dragons: Once Real, Now Extinct. The possibilities of every civilization forming a legend about gigantic fire breathing beast is almost as unlikely as the Aztecs forming their own legend about a man very similar to Jesus and exhibting genetic links to Jews.
I really doubt it.
Time Travel: Not Real, never will be. Whatever Einstien may say.
Naw.
Shroud of Turin: Not Real. Been disproven.
I've don't have a clue what this is.
Crop Circles: Not Real. Pranksters.
Pretty much been disproven.
Ghosts: Real. They've been documented, firm disbelievers have collapsed after seeing only one.
I'd love the believe, and ghosts scare the hell out of me, but never been proven, not gonna believe it. That thing Jaffar said is interesting, I do wonder about that. At the same time each night at my moms house the screen door on the outside would slam, no matter if it was latched or not. Our house was built around 1918 though, hardly pre Civil War.
Ouija Boards: Probably. What else would make them work.
I have a ouija board (is that seriously how you spell it?), it has never worked.
Stigmata: DEFINATELY. There is little doubt from documented cases.
No clue what this is, but it just sounds fake, since its sounds like a very religious thing.
Marian Apparations: Probably not. If God were to send an apparation, why not Jesus? Why Mary?
Why not Allah?
Prophesies: Biblical, yes. All others, no. I haven't seen much proof to the contrary.
I'd wouldn't say they are real. Anyone can make a lucky guess. Hell I've been thinking about a certain song in my mind, then it will come on the radio, I find this happens about 70% of the time, but it still was me just guessing.


Now some others I decided to add.

Mummies: Wow, one I actually believe in. After researching Tutenkamen (SP? yea sad I know, but it was years ago) theres just too much here. After finding the mummy, all the workers die, and Howard Carter later gets a scar on his cheek that is identical to one found on the mummies body (in the same place), which was speculated a bug bite that perhaps killed the boy.

Well thats actually all I can think of at the moment. I'll do some more later.
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