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Do you want success in Iraq?; finally, and Iraq topic...
Topic Started: Dec 20 2005, 12:47 PM (2,635 Views)
Oujay
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Sentenal
Dec 28 2005, 04:35 PM

@Sam: We have not stolen any oil. If we went in for Oil, explain the high gas prices we have right now.

Noone else thinks this is funny? It's a little thing called price fixing, any baby economist can tell you about it, and its against the law. It goes like this:
All the companies that sell a particular product (i.e. oil) agree to raise their prices and not go below a certain point. Then, though they have plenty of rich, black, flavorful oil, they all make obscene profits just because noone is offering gas for cheaper than, say, $2.00. Though this has nothing to do with the war, justifying a statement by pointing to possibly (probobly) fixed gas prices is pointless.
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Oujay
Dec 30 2005, 12:48 AM
Sentenal
Dec 28 2005, 04:35 PM

@Sam:  We have not stolen any oil.  If we went in for Oil, explain the high gas prices we have right now.

Noone else thinks this is funny? It's a little thing called price fixing, any baby economist can tell you about it, and its against the law. It goes like this:
All the companies that sell a particular product (i.e. oil) agree to raise their prices and not go below a certain point. Then, though they have plenty of rich, black, flavorful oil, they all make obscene profits just because noone is offering gas for cheaper than, say, $2.00. Though this has nothing to do with the war, justifying a statement by pointing to possibly (probobly) fixed gas prices is pointless.
*the spelling here is bad cause my Word is being a bitch*

Why is that illegal? Seems perfectly fair to me. And besides, why do the oil companies need more oil? As long as they have customers, they're content.
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Stealing is a relative term, as I was discussing with Lucas on IM. We're not exactly going up to the Iraqis with a gun and saying "Put the oil in the bag! All of it!", but we're there on a liberation mission, and getting some oil on the side is not exactly my idea of the best thing to do. It seems to me this is a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" situation. We protect them, they give us oil. And that's not exactly the most noble thing to do, on this apparently totally noble mission.

Comprende?

@Cyrus: Why would they not want more black gold? o-o;
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Noone else thinks this is funny? It's a little thing called price fixing, any baby economist can tell you about it, and its against the law. It goes like this:
All the companies that sell a particular product (i.e. oil) agree to raise their prices and not go below a certain point. Then, though they have plenty of rich, black, flavorful oil, they all make obscene profits just because noone is offering gas for cheaper than, say, $2.00. Though this has nothing to do with the war, justifying a statement by pointing to possibly (probobly) fixed gas prices is pointless.
*the spelling here is bad cause my Word is being a bitch*

Let me make this clear: We do NOT have price fixing. THAT is illegal. What we have is anti-gouging laws. We have anti-monopoly laws. Gouging is raising the price of a product UNREASONABLE high. And I'm sure we all know what monopolies are. Gas prices are regulated by the Market, namingly Supply and Demand, and Competition.

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Stealing is a relative term, as I was discussing with Lucas on IM. We're not exactly going up to the Iraqis with a gun and saying "Put the oil in the bag! All of it!", but we're there on a liberation mission, and getting some oil on the side is not exactly my idea of the best thing to do. It seems to me this is a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" situation. We protect them, they give us oil. And that's not exactly the most noble thing to do, on this apparently totally noble mission.

Actually, stealing has a set meaning:
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Stealing, we are not.
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Dec 29 2005, 11:39 PM
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Noone else thinks this is funny? It's a little thing called price fixing, any baby economist can tell you about it, and its against the law. It goes like this:
All the companies that sell a particular product (i.e. oil) agree to raise their prices and not go below a certain point. Then, though they have plenty of rich, black, flavorful oil, they all make obscene profits just because noone is offering gas for cheaper than, say, $2.00. Though this has nothing to do with the war, justifying a statement by pointing to possibly (probobly) fixed gas prices is pointless.
*the spelling here is bad cause my Word is being a bitch*

Let me make this clear: We do NOT have price fixing. THAT is illegal. What we have is anti-gouging laws. We have anti-monopoly laws. Gouging is raising the price of a product UNREASONABLE high. And I'm sure we all know what monopolies are. Gas prices are regulated by the Market, namingly Supply and Demand, and Competition.

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Stealing is a relative term, as I was discussing with Lucas on IM. We're not exactly going up to the Iraqis with a gun and saying "Put the oil in the bag! All of it!", but we're there on a liberation mission, and getting some oil on the side is not exactly my idea of the best thing to do. It seems to me this is a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" situation. We protect them, they give us oil. And that's not exactly the most noble thing to do, on this apparently totally noble mission.

Actually, stealing has a set meaning:
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Stealing

n 1: the act of taking something from someone unlawfully; "the thieving is awful at Kennedy International" [syn: larceny, theft, thievery, thieving]

Stealing, we are not.

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Dec 28 2005, 05:26 PM
I'm just going to say this.

Iraqis have had their elections.

They want us out.

Henceforth, let's get out.

Too bad they don't want us out. Doesn't anyone listen to me? You know, the fucking IRAQI WAR VETERAN?
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Dec 30 2005, 02:27 AM
neccy60
Dec 28 2005, 05:26 PM
I'm just going to say this.

Iraqis have had their elections.

They want us out.

Henceforth, let's get out.

Too bad they don't want us out. Doesn't anyone listen to me? You know, the fucking IRAQI WAR VETERAN?

Now why would they all do that?

It makes too much sense and requires basic logical thinking.

Sadly, the words of an actual war veteran are not as powerful as the filth spewed by the liberal media.
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People, don't act like smart-asses here. I don't want to debate with little kids who think their so smart, making snid remarks.


The irony...it's so thick, Miss Lina couldn't leave an indent in it.

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Private oil companies =! US government.


Then he acts like he knows Java. Unfortunately for Sentenal, that statement wouldn't make it to run time. You'd get a compiler error right away, stating that the operator "!" is not applicable to US government. Why? Because that n00b put the signs in the [size=4]wrong[/size] order. Sentenal, go take an AP Computer Science Class and get back to me :D.
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Dec 30 2005, 05:17 AM
@Cyrus: Why would they not want more black gold? o-o;

It's not "black gold" until people buy it. Right now, the oil companies have it good. Less oil means high prices, which is great because SUV's probably won't exist in a decade or two. (Expanded parking lots are killing our forests :( ) Having all that oil just sitting around will make the public angry. Very angry. Very very angry. Now why would the oil companies want that? :(
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Dec 30 2005, 10:03 AM
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Dec 30 2005, 05:17 AM
@Cyrus: Why would they not want more black gold? o-o;

It's not "black gold" until people buy it. Right now, the oil companies have it good. Less oil means high prices, which is great because SUV's probably won't exist in a decade or two. (Expanded parking lots are killing our forests :( ) Having all that oil just sitting around will make the public angry. Very angry. Very very angry. Now why would the oil companies want that? :(

Despite the fact that EVERYONE wants it. =.

@Superbus: I respect the fact that you are a war veteran, but is it honestly possible that while you were deployed you interviewed every single Iraqi on their opinion of the United States? =/
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He probably got a good idea of the majority of Iraqis. If he didn't see guys in the streets burning flags, we can assume they're the minority.

I still think they should get out already. I think we should at least pull out like one-third of the troops. I don't know the exact situation, maybe Superbus could clarify, but it doesn't seem to me they are being overrun. Maybe we put the Iraqi troops into action and have them get some experience.
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Dec 30 2005, 04:18 PM
He probably got a good idea of the majority of Iraqis. If he didn't see guys in the streets burning flags, we can assume they're the minority.

I still think they should get out already. I think we should at least pull out like one-third of the troops. I don't know the exact situation, maybe Superbus could clarify, but it doesn't seem to me they are being overrun. Maybe we put the Iraqi troops into action and have them get some experience.

That's probably true, but still, don't you think the people might be a afraid to demonstrate disapprovement of the people rolling around in huge tanks outside their city?

Then again, Superbus is definitely more experienced in it than I am. As long as the Iraqi's want us there, not necessarily NEED us, but want us, we should stay there.
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Dec 30 2005, 05:39 AM
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Noone else thinks this is funny? It's a little thing called price fixing, any baby economist can tell you about it, and its against the law. It goes like this:
All the companies that sell a particular product (i.e. oil) agree to raise their prices and not go below a certain point. Then, though they have plenty of rich, black, flavorful oil, they all make obscene profits just because noone is offering gas for cheaper than, say, $2.00. Though this has nothing to do with the war, justifying a statement by pointing to possibly (probobly) fixed gas prices is pointless.
*the spelling here is bad cause my Word is being a bitch*

Let me make this clear: We do NOT have price fixing. THAT is illegal. What we have is anti-gouging laws. We have anti-monopoly laws. Gouging is raising the price of a product UNREASONABLE high. And I'm sure we all know what monopolies are. Gas prices are regulated by the Market, namingly Supply and Demand, and Competition.


Then can someone explain to me how gas prices rose to obscene highs, almost three bucks a gallon, and then when there was talk of prosecuting oil companies for price fixing, it fell to a nice price of about two dollars eleven, at least where i live, despite there being more oil refineries temporarily shut down in Iraq? That doesnt show signes of fixing?
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Is that what did it? I need to read the paper more often. I thought it was because hydrogen was starting to look economical compared to oil. <This sentence guaranteed sarcasm-free. Really.

I'm listening to Superbus. No better source than firsthand, and if the majority of the civilians want us there, we should stay there. That doesn't mean we can't at least reduce the troop involvement there, though.

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