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Do you want success in Iraq?; finally, and Iraq topic...
Topic Started: Dec 20 2005, 12:47 PM (2,644 Views)
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Eiji Kikumaru
Dec 21 2005, 01:35 AM
Huh? Their deaths were meaningless? How rude to the volunteer troops that opted to go. :(

Sounds good to me, Kashif. I don't want to take the risk. He didn't let us search, so our suspicions rose. I'm very glad we didn't take the chance and just went in there.

Don't let us search? Boom headshot! Done.

Dude, that logic doesn't apply in RL. That applies in CS: Source.
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Eiji Kikumaru
Dec 20 2005, 08:06 PM
Richie
Dec 20 2005, 08:41 PM
Liberating a nation is one thing, forcing a government upon them is another. =/

IIRC, they're voting on it and we're letting them choose. :lol:

They voted on whether they wanted a new government? =.

And besides, we all know how effective voting is. n_n;
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Richie
Dec 21 2005, 02:28 AM
Eiji Kikumaru
Dec 20 2005, 08:06 PM
Richie
Dec 20 2005, 08:41 PM
Liberating a nation is one thing, forcing a government upon them is another. =/

IIRC, they're voting on it and we're letting them choose. :lol:

They voted on whether they wanted a new government? =.

And besides, we all know how effective voting is. n_n;

In every democracy, there can be many parties. From Republican, and even Communists. After all, if the U.S. has the Democratic party, then Communists can be nominees for the elections. Therefor, they can choose their own government.

And forcing? 70% of the Iraqi population want's democracy. Tell me how that many people WANTING democracy is forcing.
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I'm glad I started this topic. Much better than that other one where everyone hates each other.

So Richie, we shouldn't have been there in the first place, so therefore we should lose? What kind of foolish logic is that? I don't give a damn if you don't think we should be in there. Because we ARE.

Why do you people think that Arabs are incapable of having a Democratic Republic? Here is why: You think that Arabs are inately violent, and you think that Arabs can't do anything else than kill each other. Otherwise, you would consider them to have the same capasity to live in a republic as to living in a dictatorship. Iraqis will be voting. In previous elections in Iraq, turnout has been VERY high. And elections are going to be high in the upcoming one. Why? Because a republic is better than what they had.

We had no right to go into Iraq? Bull shit. We had plenty justification to go into Iraq via both our consitution and serveral UN resolutions. Saddam was supposed to prove he had no WMDs. Actively. Instead, he pulled the same BS he pulled during the Clinton years. And lets not forget something: He has used WMD before. He gased tons of Kurds in the past. And this isn't even touching on what type of ruler he was. Our troops have found mass graves, rape rooms, etc etc. This man was a monster, and his rule was that of terror.
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Dec 21 2005, 04:00 AM
He has used WMD before. He gased tons of Kurds in the past.

And the infamous weapon that put Saddam Hussein on the map: the Iraq-Iran war 'Mustard Gas'.
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I don't think we had justification to go into Iraq, but there isn't a point to lose while we are in there. I want the US to defeat the insurgents and establish a stable country, and then get out as soon as possible.
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Dec 21 2005, 04:00 AM
He has used WMD before.

Do you, by any chance, know what counter he got those from :rolleyes: ? I think not.
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Dec 21 2005, 03:16 PM
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He has used WMD before.

Do you, by any chance, know what counter he got those from :rolleyes: ? I think not.

Actually, he got them from the US, for the Iran-Iraq. Before he was dangerous to us, and because we liked Iraq more than Iran. Trust me, I probably know more about it than you.
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Dec 20 2005, 10:00 PM
So Richie, we shouldn't have been there in the first place, so therefore we should lose? What kind of foolish logic is that? I don't give a damn if you don't think we should be in there. Because we ARE.

I never said we should lose. I said if our country's government had a goddamn sense of logic then we wouldn't even be there.

Reading is a lost art. ;)
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I knew that Sentenal, that's why I used the rolleyes smiley.
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Dec 21 2005, 04:38 PM
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So Richie, we shouldn't have been there in the first place, so therefore we should lose?  What kind of foolish logic is that?  I don't give a damn if you don't think we should be in there.  Because we ARE.

I never said we should lose. I said if our country's government had a goddamn sense of logic then we wouldn't even be there.

Reading is a lost art. ;)

Never said we should win either. Only said we shouldn't be in there, etc etc ;)
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Well if we "win" by forcing our government upon a country with no other alternatives, I don't consider it a victory at all. :unsure:
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No other alternatives? So, in other words, you would rather them be, as a whole, a radical militant Islamic state?
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Dec 21 2005, 05:20 PM
No other alternatives? So, in other words, you would rather them be, as a whole, a radical militant Islamic state?

I would rather the people did what they wanted to without looking out the window and seeing a huge US tank pointing towards their building.
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Dec 21 2005, 10:55 PM
Well if we "win" by forcing our government upon a country with no other alternatives, I don't consider it a victory at all. :unsure:

elaborate the forcing part when i refuted it a few posts back
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