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| Do you want success in Iraq?; finally, and Iraq topic... | |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 22 2005, 12:54 PM Post #61 |
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Maybe. Maybe the aspect of losing the US's protection influenced the election. Who knows? |
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| Zexion | Dec 22 2005, 02:16 PM Post #62 |
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70% of Iraqi's want democracy. If thats not what the majority wants, correct me. |
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| Harmato | Dec 22 2005, 04:36 PM Post #63 |
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According to the the latest issue of Time, the Iraqis want democracy but also want us out of there. |
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| Mind Bomber | Dec 22 2005, 05:42 PM Post #64 |
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Looking back, I don't think the election itself was rigged. If it was, there's no way radical fundamentalists could've won. That's the problem with making democracies: The will of the people isn't always the will of the people that matter. |
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| Sentenal | Dec 22 2005, 08:05 PM Post #65 |
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First people go on a rant about the US fixing elections, or us forcing our government on people. Then, when its clear that we are not fixing elections, or forcing our government on people, and they choose what they want, the complain. We are there to help them get a representative republic going, one where THEY choose what they to vote on. They voted for their Transitional Government. They voted on a constitution that guarantees the rule of law, freedom of assembly, property rights, freedom of speech and the press, freedom of religious belief and practice, women's rights, and the right to vote. And recently, they elected who they wanted, who suprise, wasn't the US's choice canadiate. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 23 2005, 01:18 AM Post #66 |
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Results from a poll taken by a country that went to war and has lost 2,000 lives in this liberating mission. =) |
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| Sentenal | Dec 23 2005, 02:50 AM Post #67 |
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Compare causalitys to Revolutionary War, Civil War, World War 1, World War 2, Koran War, or Vietnam. EDIT: Scratch that, I'll do it for you. Revolutionary War American Troops: 217,000 American battle deaths: 4,435 American Civil War Union Troops: 2,213,363 Union battle deaths: 140,414 Confederate Troops: 1,050,000 Confederate battle deaths: 74,524 World War 1 US Troops: 4,734,991 US battle deaths: 53,402 Other US deaths: 63,114 World War 2 US Troops: 16,112,566 US battle deaths: 291,557 Other US deaths: 113,842 Koran War US Troops: 5,720,000 (1,789,000 serving in-theatre) US battle deaths: 33,741 Vietnam War US Troops: 8,744,000 (3,403,000 serving in-theatre) US battle deaths: 47,410 |
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| Inui | Dec 23 2005, 08:34 AM Post #68 |
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You beat me to it, Sentenal. Kids these days don't know what a real war is. A bunch of pussies, IMO. 2000 lives is nothing compared to other wars, people. It's a teeny little sacrafice to make the world a better place. |
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| Zexion | Dec 23 2005, 01:47 PM Post #69 |
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NEVER say that 2,000 is something to be all like "omfg no way not worth it". 2,000 deaths, though saddening, is NOTHING. |
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| Sam767 | Dec 23 2005, 02:03 PM Post #70 |
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Arf
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Watch it. This is a debate, not a shouting match.
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| Brazy CK | Dec 23 2005, 04:11 PM Post #71 |
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2000 is a lot for a fucking liberation INVASION. There's one thing I don't get. Generally wars are between countries, not terrorist groups. |
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| Reaver | Dec 23 2005, 04:57 PM Post #72 |
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I disagree with that. I don't think the lives were worth this war, even if I am blood related to one of the casualties. CNN, Fox, none of them even bothered to say soldiers died on the first Iraqi elections. He was killed going back to his base by an IED. No life was worth it. All young men that should've had a better shot at a better future. |
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| Zexion | Dec 23 2005, 06:37 PM Post #73 |
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Guess what? Soldiers die everyday. That's war. Oh, and I'm related to 2 people in Iraq, and have 4 family friends there. Last time I checked, they all said this was worth it. Ask your dead relative if it was worth it when you get to heaven. He'll slap you for making such a disrespectful comment and tell you it was worth it. As for a better future, what if Zarqawi manages to obtain a nuclear warhead, or Osama for that matter. We pull all our troops out, and then wham, our country goes to hell in a handbasket. That's some future we have there.
a 2 year long invasion wow didnt know. i thought we had iraq in our control apparently were still attacking it than defending hm k 2000 is nothing, considering they ALL didn't die in the invasion, but over 2 and a half years. Guess what, that's war. Don't like it? Don't have to, but now you hopefully know how many people die in a war. Oh, and wars today aren't necessarily fought between two countries. What would you call civil wars then? And what would you call the war on terror? Just because something isn't in your definition of war, doesn't mean it's not a true war. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 23 2005, 06:40 PM Post #74 |
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Civil wars are fought between a country. This "war" is an invasion, we just barged in and took over the place. If we had not gone over there to begin with, the 2000 lives would be not lost. ANY amount of lives lost in a cause this rash is horrible. |
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| Harmato | Dec 23 2005, 06:40 PM Post #75 |
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We should be very concerned with Zarqawi. He poses much more of a threat than bin Laden currently. @Richie: You need to break a few eggs in order to make an omelette. A harsh analogy yes but an accurate one as well. |
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