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| Superbus | Dec 26 2005, 10:30 PM Post #121 |
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We can't. The damage is done. Now, if we were to pull out right now, we'd have a REAL problem on our hands; there'd be a brutal civil war the likes of which we've never seen, and whoever won would be a MAJOR problem for us. If that were to happen, Iraq would be the kind of hotbed that President Bush has pretended it's been for a while. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 27 2005, 12:54 AM Post #122 |
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Then talk about democratic representatives, not democrats in general. |
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 01:00 AM Post #123 |
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Tell me, Richie, just who do those politicans represent? |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 27 2005, 01:56 AM Post #124 |
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The 51%.
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 02:17 AM Post #125 |
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Democrat politicians represent Democrats, Republican politicans represent Republicans. So, Democrat's representation in the House voted for defeat. So if they don't accurately represent mainstream Democrat's view on this, they will be voted out of office. But it probably won't happen. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 27 2005, 02:21 AM Post #126 |
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They represent them, they do not necessarily share their opinions on every matter. Just because the representatives think one way does not mean the whole group thinks the same way. Generalizating. |
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 02:27 AM Post #127 |
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The job of Representatives is to represent the people's ideas and views on a national level. If they don't do that, they should be replaced by someone who does. And I can garantee you that most of these people won't loose any support from their base because of this. Well, at least to the extend where it would matter. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 27 2005, 02:28 AM Post #128 |
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Change "people's" to "party's" and we've got an agreement. |
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 02:33 AM Post #129 |
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Okay...
So their job is to represent their party's view. And the way they represent their party's view is agianst success. What do you think the chances are that the democratic party will vote them out of office? I mean, obviously, their views on defeat doesn't match their party's, so apparently they arn't doing their job. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 27 2005, 02:38 AM Post #130 |
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Their job isn't to represent their party's views, but that is what you have to do to become popular. Not necessarily all politicians follow that rule, hence why some break away from the flock. Mind defining exactly what you mean by defeat? I'm assuming you mean pulling out prematurely. |
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 02:45 AM Post #131 |
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But that IS their job. They are there to represent the people. Now days, its representing your party, but its core purpose is giving the people national voice. And if they go off on their own thing, rather than represent their constituents, they are not doing their job. Defeat, as in not winning. The war has not been won yet. So yes, pulling out prematurally, which would negate every positive thing we have done there. |
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| Brazy CK | Dec 27 2005, 02:50 AM Post #132 |
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The idea that any politician anywhere represents the people is laughable. I agree, we've gone in too deep to pull out just yet. Explain to me how we "win" the war, then? |
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 03:04 AM Post #133 |
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For an example of one that did, take Zell Miller, a former Georgia Govenor and Senator. He was a democrat. But he represented his state's views and beliefs, and was hated by the Democratic party because of it. And we win in Iraq by training their army so that they can defend themselves, and to protect their government while it establishes itself. This is done by combating the terrorist now in Iraq, and obviously training the Iraqis to do this. |
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| (*Jman*) | Dec 27 2005, 10:40 AM Post #134 |
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Kakatte Koi!
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Guess what, he went and raised taxes after he was voted into office. Politicians LIE to get people's votes. They claim they'll do what's popular. They don't actually do it though :o., |
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| Sentenal | Dec 27 2005, 06:00 PM Post #135 |
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Guess what? George W. Bush said he would cut taxes, and he did. |
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