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Topic Started: Jan 3 2006, 06:39 PM (2,259 Views)
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Sentenal
Jan 7 2006, 10:32 PM
Richie
Jan 7 2006, 11:17 PM
That's all fine and dandy, but there's one problem. Terror has to do with public reaction, not how bad the attacks were.

Richie, an act being a terror attack has to do with intent. All of those are terrorist attacks, and you would be insane to say otherwise. Terrorist intended to frighten the US.

For a list of terrorist attacks on the US (because there are alot more than what I listed:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html

Nonononononononononono.

The media and the people MAKE the terrorism. They are the ones who spread fear. All the terrorists do is start the embers.
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Jan 7 2006, 11:35 PM
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Jan 7 2006, 11:17 PM
That's all fine and dandy, but there's one problem. Terror has to do with public reaction, not how bad the attacks were.

Richie, an act being a terror attack has to do with intent. All of those are terrorist attacks, and you would be insane to say otherwise. Terrorist intended to frighten the US.

For a list of terrorist attacks on the US (because there are alot more than what I listed:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001454.html

Nonononononononononono.

The media and the people MAKE the terrorism. They are the ones who spread fear. All the terrorists do is start the embers.

I don't even see where your arguement is going anymore.
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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.


i dont see media, media liberals, media liberals butfuking, or anything of the source in there

terrorism is the intent, whether or not it does provoke it isn't the point

it doesn't even deserve grammar
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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.


i dont see media, media liberals, media liberals butfuking, or anything of the source in there

terrorism is the intent, whether or not it does provoke it isn't the point

it doesn't even deserve grammar

Ugh. Terrorism is not the intent. People don't just say, "Hey, let's scare a bunch of people," a lot of terrorists don't have the POWER to mass-produce such feelings. Terrorism is not just atomic weapons and anthrax. Sexual predators have a kind of terrorism, the criminal underworld have a kind of terrorism, it's all how the people portray it. They are the ones who exaggerate things, they are the ones who spread around their doings.
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Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.
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Jan 7 2006, 11:20 PM
Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.

For those of us who base our entire lives upon textbook definitions.
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Jan 8 2006, 05:22 AM
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Jan 7 2006, 11:20 PM
Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.

For those of us who base our entire lives upon textbook definitions.

Sometimes you do need to use textbook definitons because it involves the predicament you are in, but in most cases you don't need to. So I argee with Richie.Use such things as textbook definitons for everything you need to know closes your mind.
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Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.

For those of us who base our entire lives upon textbook definitions.

Sometimes you do need to use textbook definitons because it involves the predicament you are in, but in most cases you don't need to. So I argee with Richie.Use such things as textbook definitons for everything you need to know closes your mind.

Look, if you two want to go agianst what is a commonly accepted standard, just because it doesn't fall in line with your beliefs, thats fine. Its just childish. Things like a opinions and views can be debated and disagreed, but things like that? What the hell makes your definition of a word any better than a published defintion?
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Laharl: 48/2(9+3)=36
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Laharl: Also, you can't multiply a number by one.
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Laharl: I wasn't good at math. That doesn't make me an idiot!
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Jan 8 2006, 12:10 AM
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Jan 8 2006, 12:54 AM
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Jan 8 2006, 05:22 AM
Sentenal
Jan 7 2006, 11:20 PM
Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

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The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.

For those of us who base our entire lives upon textbook definitions.

Sometimes you do need to use textbook definitons because it involves the predicament you are in, but in most cases you don't need to. So I argee with Richie.Use such things as textbook definitons for everything you need to know closes your mind.

Look, if you two want to go agianst what is a commonly accepted standard, just because it doesn't fall in line with your beliefs, thats fine. Its just childish. Things like a opinions and views can be debated and disagreed, but things like that? What the hell makes your definition of a word any better than a published defintion?

...Terrorism means to bring terror. Who brings the terror? Well, the act is started by someone, but the terror itself is brought by the people's reactions and the spreading of said reactions. It's not a question of the word's definition, it's a question of how it's brought upon people.
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...Terrorism means to bring terror. Who brings the terror? Well, the act is started by someone, but the terror itself is brought by the people's reactions and the spreading of said reactions. It's not a question of the word's definition, it's a question of how it's brought upon people.

And why should I care what you think it is? Every other creditible definition uses the word "intent" or "intention", or something of the like.
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...Terrorism means to bring terror. Who brings the terror? Well, the act is started by someone, but the terror itself is brought by the people's reactions and the spreading of said reactions. It's not a question of the word's definition, it's a question of how it's brought upon people.

And why should I care what you think it is? Every other creditible definition uses the word "intent" or "intention", or something of the like.

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Sweet Jesus.

Tell me you didn't just say that.

Did you pay ANY attention whatsoever to what I just said? T_T

Regardless of what the definition is, the point of it is to bring TERROR, and who brings terror better than the media?
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Jan 8 2006, 06:17 AM
Sentenal
Jan 8 2006, 12:10 AM
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Jan 8 2006, 12:54 AM
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Jan 8 2006, 05:22 AM
Sentenal
Jan 7 2006, 11:20 PM
Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

Quote:
 
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.

For those of us who base our entire lives upon textbook definitions.

Sometimes you do need to use textbook definitons because it involves the predicament you are in, but in most cases you don't need to. So I argee with Richie.Use such things as textbook definitons for everything you need to know closes your mind.

Look, if you two want to go agianst what is a commonly accepted standard, just because it doesn't fall in line with your beliefs, thats fine. Its just childish. Things like a opinions and views can be debated and disagreed, but things like that? What the hell makes your definition of a word any better than a published defintion?

...Terrorism means to bring terror. Who brings the terror? Well, the act is started by someone, but the terror itself is brought by the people's reactions and the spreading of said reactions. It's not a question of the word's definition, it's a question of how it's brought upon people.

That is true, I had never looked at it that way.
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Jan 8 2006, 07:07 AM
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Jan 8 2006, 06:17 AM
Sentenal
Jan 8 2006, 12:10 AM
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Jan 8 2006, 12:54 AM
Richie
Jan 8 2006, 05:22 AM
Sentenal
Jan 7 2006, 11:20 PM
Maybe you didn't read this part of his post...

Quote:
 
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Thats the definition of terrorism.

For those of us who base our entire lives upon textbook definitions.

Sometimes you do need to use textbook definitons because it involves the predicament you are in, but in most cases you don't need to. So I argee with Richie.Use such things as textbook definitons for everything you need to know closes your mind.

Look, if you two want to go agianst what is a commonly accepted standard, just because it doesn't fall in line with your beliefs, thats fine. Its just childish. Things like a opinions and views can be debated and disagreed, but things like that? What the hell makes your definition of a word any better than a published defintion?

...Terrorism means to bring terror. Who brings the terror? Well, the act is started by someone, but the terror itself is brought by the people's reactions and the spreading of said reactions. It's not a question of the word's definition, it's a question of how it's brought upon people.

That is true, I had never looked at it that way.

Please do not make a post without contributing. Posts such as "I agree" or "Oh." are not good. ^_^
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Just because you were like 5 when they happend doesn't mean they didn't get any media attention.


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Those 5 I listed were in the UNITED STATES, not elsewhere. Most of the other terrorist attacks on that page kill under 10 Americans. And tapping phones in the United States will not help to stop attacks outside the United States.

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Ask yourself: What can we do agianst Earthquakes? Then ask yourself, what can we do agianst Terrorism?


This is what you can do.

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What can we do against earthquakes?

Build homes that can take the shaking and install safety features, i've seen them, and with funding it can be done, but plenty of people wouldn't want to move into a new home or pay for that safety.


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Your insane. Stop supporting Israel!? Yeah, let us ALLOW the other middle eastern countrys go in there and destroy Israel. Screw the Jews, THEY are in the wrong.</sarcaism>


They are. They should never have been a country. Palestine kindly let Jews in after World War II. And how did they repay Palestine? By taking away most of their land.

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We do NOT bash their religion (at least our government doesn't), and we DO help them. See overthrowing Saddamn Hussian. Here is a FACT. Arab Terrorist attacked us FIRST. Surrender to those scum is not an option.


LOL. SadDAMN Hussein. Heh heh heh. Anyways, because we entered Iraq, liek 5-10x the amount of civilians that died in the United States in 9/11 died there. I can't say for sure, but that # sounds higher than the amount of people SadDAMN killed yearly.

And the point Richie is trying to make is this: Media spreads the terror and fear. Sure, terrorists are the ones who do awful things. But would anyone be scared if the media didn't spread it liek woah? Nope.
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A terrorist attack doesn't have to have a high kill count to matter; all it has to really do is unsettle the public.

9/11 is the big one, because it still gets the stories. Simple as that. Stories about the Cole (who were in my ship's battle group) don't push copies of the New York Daily News, or the Post, etc. They're just a bunch of faggot sailors in Virginia, right? They don't count!
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