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| Sentenal | Jan 8 2006, 10:41 AM Post #91 |
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There you go agaign, trivializing terrorist attacks.
Okay, first I'll address what Psio said about Earthquakes.
That doesn't prevent earthquakes, sorry. Now, back to your anti-Israel part. After WW2, the British controlled the terroritory out there. The Jews who suffered under Hitler needed a homeland. What better than their ansestrial homeland, Israel? The British created the nation of Israel, and gave it to the Jews, and they created the Nation of Palestine, and gave it to the Palestinians. It didn't take long for the Arabs to get pissed because those damn jews were next door. Nearly every middle eastern country invaded Israel, and tryed to destroy it. The Israelis fought back. They took over Palestine, and occuptied parts of serveral of their agressors. Learn your damn history.
The only reason someone would argue that Terrorism is only created by the media is if one wants to demean the said attacks. Saying that the attacks I listened arn't terrorist attacks trivializes them. |
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| (*Jman*) | Jan 8 2006, 11:18 AM Post #92 |
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Kakatte Koi!
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[size=6]Something's liek busted, becuz I see teh quote tags in teh post...[/size]
Earth to Sentenal: The chances that tapping phones in America will stop terrorist attacks outside of America is a negative %.
Yeah, you did a GREAT job with that. </sarcasm>
Yeah ok. Wonderful argument.
Why are you such a n00b? I have no idea. But you do not know your history yourself, you hypocrite.
It looks like YOU need to learn your damn history. The British had it after WWI, not WWII. The "nation" of Palestine had existed under Muslim control for liek a looong time.
As stated earlier, the Ottoman Empire lost it after they got pwned in WWI. Thus, the Jews had it for liek...well that depends on what you believe. But no one would argue that it was liek...teh Egypt who had it. The first documentation of Israel is
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| Sentenal | Jan 8 2006, 11:38 AM Post #93 |
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Was the land controlled by the Brits after WW2? Yes? Okay then, you made yourself look like an ass. Because the Brits didn't give up control there until after WW2, which was my point.
Fact: Before the Romans took over, Jews controlled Israel.
Don't be a moron. I asked what we can do to prevent earthquakes, and he said to build safer houses, basically. That doesn't prevent earthquakes.
Here is what your are saying: The only thing that differs from a Terrorist attack, from a "regular" attack, is how the media makes it out. And that trivializes it, because conventitional attacks between countrys and terrorist attacks are two very different things. |
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| Psiwri | Jan 8 2006, 11:44 AM Post #94 |
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of course it doesn't stop earthquakes, it stops the damage they do, and stops the loss of lives and property, which was the whole point about the earthquakes, that they were causing DEATHS |
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| Reaver | Jan 8 2006, 11:49 AM Post #95 |
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Exactly. If the media said how terrible it was that the Cole was sunk and had 24/7 coverage of it, along with papers making it a coverstory and continued to tell it for weeks, it would be more widely known as a terrorist attack. Since 9/11 was NOT ONLY from Logan airport (45 min from my home in decent traffic), BUT it had live Media coverage and it even got every paper and newstation in America printing out special editions and giving it ten times the support. I heard so much about the terrorist attacks in the papers and Media it was crazy. |
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| dilbertschalter | Jan 8 2006, 12:12 PM Post #96 |
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I read about that story constantly. The main why it's not as well known is because the public (rightly or wrongly) cares more about civilian deaths than soldier deaths.
You're just trying to hide the fact that his arguement is correct overall by pointing out an irrelevent factual error. Your "history lesson" is factually correct but does nothing to his arguement. |
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| Brazy CK | Jan 8 2006, 01:07 PM Post #97 |
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Oh god. A terrorist attack is made by a group of people who do something that effects a minor amount of people but spreads fear across the rest of the populus through various forms of communication. Ha bisogno di esso qualunque piu chiaro? |
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| Sentenal | Jan 8 2006, 01:25 PM Post #98 |
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I'm giving up on you. Your arguement has lost any core it once had. Just to remind you, your argueing that those terrorist attacks I posted arn't terrorist attacks.
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| Brazy CK | Jan 8 2006, 01:56 PM Post #99 |
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...The attacks you posted were small and fairly unpublicized, as I would have heard of them had they truly envoked terror.
English is such an ugly language. |
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| Wind Sword | Jan 8 2006, 02:56 PM Post #100 |
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Woah, this got outta hand fast.
Fact: Before the Europeans took over, Natives owned America. I don't see the UN giving them their own country, rather than shoving them in Indian OK, the whole terrorism being relient on the media thing undermines the whole point. Terrorism has been happening long before an organized media. The Italian Mafia, the Knights of Templar, the Ku Klux Klan, even the Sons of Liberty(Boston Tea Party anyone?) were all terrorists. Their terror spread via word-of-mouth. No newsteam or newspapers. Well, maybe for the Sons of Liberty. How the HELL did we get on EARTHQUAKES? That's rhetorical people, I don't want an answer.
2000 plus people died in the attacks. We just hit the 2000 mark of soldiers dead, and that's with Afghanistan. Permit me to say you should have at least checked on that before you posted it.
The Brits/League of Nations gave them their own country. We can see how happy the Palestines were by how little conflict there is today. Okay, let's suppose OmniHax is right about earthquakes, Israel, WWI, the media, Pearl Harbor, Palestine, textbook definitions, the Cole, and whatever else. What's that have to do with Wiretaps? Stay on topic, or I'll delete the last two pages completely. |
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| (*Jman*) | Jan 8 2006, 06:07 PM Post #101 |
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Hey n00b, teh way your post was written, it implied that the Brits only had it after WW2. Fact: That's liek how many years ago? Yah, that's what I thought.
Read Psio's response. Of course, you decided to just ignore the Earth to Sentenal: The chances that tapping phones in America will stop terrorist attacks outside of America is a negative %.
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the media spreads the terror that is created.
I was referring to the # of IRAQI CIVILIANS, not AMERICAN MILITARY. |
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| Sentenal | Jan 8 2006, 08:46 PM Post #102 |
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You do realize a good number of Indian tribes are getting rich from casinos, right?
Irrelevant.
Irrelevant.
Okay, media spreads terror that is created. So how does that make a terrorist attack any more or less than what it is? I remind you that have been arguing terrorist attacks are only terrorist attacks if they get suffient media support (as in reporting).
No they wern't. They weren't huge like 9/11, but there was alot of reporting on them. I remmber asking my brother about how the Cole bombing would factor into the 2000 election. There wasn't mass hysteria, but it did get its fair amount of reporting. You just didn't know about it because either A) too young, or didn't care to look.
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| (*Jman*) | Jan 8 2006, 09:23 PM Post #103 |
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Ok. Guess that means wire tapping is irrelevant too.
Answer to the question: It doesn't. What the media does is spread fear and hysteria. If it was not for the media, people would not be as afraid. Response to the rest of that statement: No one has been saying that terrorist attacks are only terrorist attacks if they get suffi[size=6]C[/size]ient media support. At least, I know [size=6]I[/size] haven't been. |
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| Superbus | Jan 9 2006, 01:08 AM Post #104 |
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This is becoming a flamefest. Richie, Sentinal, calm it down, eh? |
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| Bosceon | Jan 16 2006, 12:55 AM Post #105 |
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*jumps in* No matter reason, this WAS against the law. Though, it would be rather pointless, if we gave a suspected terrorist a little peice of paper saying, "Yeah, we tapped your phone, jus lettin ya know." Then, we'll just get nothing terrorist related or some messed up talk in code. Bush did have it was in time of war deal, BUT, the people he was tapping were possibly terrorist related, NOT war related. So, Bush needed a warrant which he did not get. Whether or not he presented it to the people he tapped, he didn't even have a warrant in the first place. I do agree with his decision, but he could've found a better way of doing this, and he did break the law. |
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I don't see the UN giving them their own country, rather than shoving them in Indian
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