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Topic Started: Jan 7 2006, 02:13 AM (2,107 Views)
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Agreed, and that is one of the options I listed above; either legalize weed or illegalize alcohol and nicotene.

GIVE A BENIFIT FOR THIS.

Wait, there are none? Then why are you arguing for it? There is a difference between right and fair.
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Prohibition failed because too many people were good at hiding and selling drinks without getting caught by the government and police. This is the same for marijuana, we cannot possibly track down every smoker.

The other thing is that dealers can lace their marijuana with LCD and Cocaine, making the person addicted to more drugs. Just like how people made bad alcohol during Prohibition. If the goverment legalized it, then pharmicies would sell it, making it that much safer. :)
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Sentenal
Jan 7 2006, 09:39 PM
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Agreed, and that is one of the options I listed above; either legalize weed or illegalize alcohol and nicotene.

GIVE A BENIFIT FOR THIS.

Wait, there are none? Then why are you arguing for it? There is a difference between right and fair.

Then there is the media and the government trying to make weed seem worse than killing someone. It is not. You just ignored every argument I made saying how marijuana is no worse than cigarettes and alcohol.

The benefits? Eliminating hundreds upon thousands of crimes, and therefore eliminating the tendency of which one does more crime after doing one, and therefore eliminating the amount of people in jail cells, which eliminates the amount of jails we need, which eliminates some of the taxes people have to pay.

As for the argument that legalizing marijuana will actually INCREASE the number of users, there are no facts supporting either side, are there?
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The benefits? Eliminating hundreds upon thousands of crimes, and therefore eliminating the tendency of which one does more crime after doing one, and therefore eliminating the amount of people in jail cells, which eliminates the amount of jails we need, which eliminates some of the taxes people have to pay.

Jails are not full of pot smokers. I'm not even sure if its a felony to smoke pot.

So the only benifit you can find is that people who are breaking the law right now wouldn't be put into jail. Thats a benifit?
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My posts seem to be ignored. Just have to make them more blatant.

We cannot ban all of those drugs because the government will NEVER, EVER be able to track every single dealer and every single supplier of marijuana. Many people do marijuana and cocaine, hell, some high school students can access marijuana easy enough, shows how great we are at enforcing illegal substances.

To top everythign In the above paragraph, dealers can lace their marijuana with other drugs, hooking their customers and making marijuana that much more dangerous. If we took government control of it, marijuana would be that much safer, government controlled, and would be treated like Alcohol. It's brilliant.

And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.
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And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.

Agreed. Alcohol can be very dangerous if abused.

My main thing thing agianst pot being legalized (other than doing so has not benifit), is that unlike Alcohol, pot effects those around you. If someone is smoking pot in the same room as you, with poor ventalation, your gonna get high too. If someone is drinking next to you, your not going to get drunk. Them getting drunk is their problem, but someone getting high next to me becomes mine.
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Jan 7 2006, 10:19 PM
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The benefits? Eliminating hundreds upon thousands of crimes, and therefore eliminating the tendency of which one does more crime after doing one, and therefore eliminating the amount of people in jail cells, which eliminates the amount of jails we need, which eliminates some of the taxes people have to pay.

Jails are not full of pot smokers. I'm not even sure if its a felony to smoke pot.

So the only benifit you can find is that people who are breaking the law right now wouldn't be put into jail. Thats a benifit?

It is a felony is posess marijuana, yes.

Did you even read my post? o_o;
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Yeah, you said it would eliminate crime. Only, the crime would smoking pot. And thus reduce the numbers in jails.

Here are the problems with that:
1.) Its not really eliminating a crime, its just saying its okay now.
2.) Jails are not full of pot heads. We wouldn't save a substancial ammount of money by legalizing it for our prison system.
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Jan 8 2006, 04:57 PM
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And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.

Agreed. Alcohol can be very dangerous if abused.

My main thing thing agianst pot being legalized (other than doing so has not benifit), is that unlike Alcohol, pot effects those around you. If someone is smoking pot in the same room as you, with poor ventalation, your gonna get high too. If someone is drinking next to you, your not going to get drunk. Them getting drunk is their problem, but someone getting high next to me becomes mine.

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And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.

Agreed. Alcohol can be very dangerous if abused.

My main thing thing agianst pot being legalized (other than doing so has not benifit), is that unlike Alcohol, pot effects those around you. If someone is smoking pot in the same room as you, with poor ventalation, your gonna get high too. If someone is drinking next to you, your not going to get drunk. Them getting drunk is their problem, but someone getting high next to me becomes mine.

Second Hand Smoke. GGNORE.

I didn't realize that you could get second hand smoke from Alcohol...
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No offense guys, but US is a messed up country. o_o;;

Here there is a thing with alcohol, in which you can drink it legally without people calling your attention when you're...over 15, I think. You can buy it when you're 18. And we have less problems than you guys, who have drinking ages at 21. .__.;;

And marijuana is legal in the Netherlands. They haven't had many problems with that, as far as I know of. But I'm not really sure with this one.

IMO, people smoke pot cause everybody is like "OMGZZZWEEDISBADFORJOO!!!11ONE". =/ that calls people's attention, making them lean more towards trying it.

That's just my view.

And banning alcohol? XD I'd never heard of that one. =O

But meh. I know more than one person is gonna bash me for this post. =/
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Jan 9 2006, 02:22 AM
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No offense guys, but US is a messed up country. o_o;;

Here there is a thing with alcohol, in which you can drink it legally without people calling your attention when you're...over 15, I think. You can buy it when you're 18. And we have less problems than you guys, who have drinking ages at 21. .__.;;

And marijuana is legal in the Netherlands. They haven't had many problems with that, as far as I know of. But I'm not really sure with this one.

IMO, people smoke pot cause everybody is like "OMGZZZWEEDISBADFORJOO!!!11ONE". =/ that calls people's attention, making them lean more towards trying it.

That's just my view.

And banning alcohol? XD I'd never heard of that one. =O

But meh. I know more than one person is gonna bash me for this post. =/

Wait what country are you from?

Well It could go either way really. If we legalize it people'll do it out in the open, if it remains illigalized it'll stay being used for various reasons.

Not all people use it for the sole purpose of rebellion, there are other reasons such as depression or whatever. Not condoning what they do just some people have other reasons or excuses as to why they do what they do.
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I'm from Panama. One of the small countries in Latin America. In case you didn't know. o.o;;

(I think I've said that too many times already XD)

And yeah, marijuana isn't used only for rebellion, but many teens are like "hm, I wonder why they make such a fuss on it...I wonder what it's like" and that's how some of them start. I know that because one of my friends was like that. But he got over it in a couple of weeks so meh.

My view on this is that if people didn't exaggerate about this so much society wouldn't have so many problems. -_-;;
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Jan 8 2006, 04:57 PM
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And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.

Agreed. Alcohol can be very dangerous if abused.

So can caffene. Are we going to ban that, too?

ANYTHING is dangerous if not used in moderation.
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And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.

Agreed. Alcohol can be very dangerous if abused.

So can caffene. Are we going to ban that, too?

ANYTHING is dangerous if not used in moderation.

But certain things are more dangerous and detrimental than others.
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