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Mary Jane
Topic Started: Jan 7 2006, 02:13 AM (2,106 Views)
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And I'm not comfortable with anyone telling me that some things are OK (alcohol, nicotine, etc), while some aren't (Ephedra, marijuana, stanizabol, etc.)
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Jan 9 2006, 01:16 AM
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Jan 9 2006, 06:24 AM
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And I'm still for making it so people who Abuse Alcohol not able to buy it VIA special I.D. It just rids the roads and everything from one less asshole.

Agreed. Alcohol can be very dangerous if abused.

So can caffene. Are we going to ban that, too?

ANYTHING is dangerous if not used in moderation.

But certain things are more dangerous and detrimental than others.

One of the smartest kids in my class does weed. His friends know, his parents know, he does it to relax. He thinks cocaine and heroin and all are disgusting. He described the feeling of being high to me as, "a sort of spiritual thing, you are in control of your body but it's sort of an out-of-body experience."

Now, I'm not saying that drugs are GOOD for you, they do hyperdrive your body in ways that shouldn't be done, but marijuana is one of the weakest drugs ever, far weaker than even nicotine (the most addictive legal drug), and when taken in moderation (that is, not overdosing), it's definitely no more harm to yourself or those around you than cigarettes or alcohol are.

@Pyro: T_T Exactly, if it was never banned, it would never have brought so much attention to it, and people wouldn't hate it so much, and maybe pay attention to the actual facts of it instead of what DARE is sputtering out, "OMGOMGOMGDRUGZRBAD4UBUYTHEMANDGOTOHELLBITCHES".
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Jan 9 2006, 08:55 AM
And I'm not comfortable with anyone telling me that some things are OK (alcohol, nicotine, etc), while some aren't (Ephedra, marijuana, stanizabol, etc.)

Personally, I don't think the former things are okay either.

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One of the smartest kids in my class does weed. His friends know, his parents know, he does it to relax. He thinks cocaine and heroin and all are disgusting. He described the feeling of being high to me as, "a sort of spiritual thing, you are in control of your body but it's sort of an out-of-body experience."


I doubt he will be one of the smartest kids in your class in years to come.

I really don't see the point in legalizing marijuanna, and I think my argument makes more sense than most, considering I am also against alcohol and nicotine.
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To be honest, I'm for either legalizing marijuana or banning nicotene and alcohol.
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Jan 10 2006, 01:41 AM
To be honest, I'm for either legalizing marijuana or banning nicotene and alcohol.

I am just wondering; what is your logic for assuming both positions?
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Jan 10 2006, 12:49 AM
Personally, I don't think the former things are okay either.

Now here's the question: do you want the government to shut them down for everyone, and make them illegal? Or are you trusting enough of yourself to say "no thanks, to each his own"?

That's the issue here: the US Government really needs to let each be his own, and control their own destiny.
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To be honest, I'm for either legalizing marijuana or banning nicotene and alcohol.

I am just wondering; what is your logic for assuming both positions?

Because marijuana, as I have explained before, is not much more harmful than nicotene or alcohol, so it only seems fair to either legalize the trio (which will probably cause less disturbance, considering how well banning alcohol and cigarettes has worked for us in the past), or ban all three of them (not worked well in the past).
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To be honest, I'm for either legalizing marijuana or banning nicotene and alcohol.

I am just wondering; what is your logic for assuming both positions?

Because marijuana, as I have explained before, is not much more harmful than nicotene or alcohol, so it only seems fair to either legalize the trio (which will probably cause less disturbance, considering how well banning alcohol and cigarettes has worked for us in the past), or ban all three of them (not worked well in the past).

And as I've said before, there is a difference between whats fair and whats right.
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Jan 10 2006, 01:41 AM
To be honest, I'm for either legalizing marijuana or banning nicotene and alcohol.

I am just wondering; what is your logic for assuming both positions?

Because marijuana, as I have explained before, is not much more harmful than nicotene or alcohol, so it only seems fair to either legalize the trio (which will probably cause less disturbance, considering how well banning alcohol and cigarettes has worked for us in the past), or ban all three of them (not worked well in the past).

And as I've said before, there is a difference between whats fair and whats right.

Elaborate, you vile fiend.
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Fairness in this situation: Either let all drugs have their fun ruining people (all legal), or none (all illegal). Thats the fair way for this.

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Rightness in this situation: Just because some are legal, doesn't mean we have to give people even more options to kill themselves.

It would be nice if they all were illegal, but cigarettes and beer are unfortunately too woven into society. We shouldn't let the same happen with yet another.
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Marijuana doesn't actually kill you. It makes you more lethargic, it increases appetite, but it isn't addicitve and abusing it won't directly kill you any faster than tobacco. Getting hit by a car because you're trying to hold a conversation with a traffic light might, but it wasn't the weed itself that got you. Alcohol and nicotine are far more dangerous, addictive, and lethal than smoking-grade hemp.

Also, if I may inject some humor into the situation: If marijuana was legal, HMOs would ensure that no one would be able to get any. ;)
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Weed is just as dangerous as Alcohol. In every way.
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People drink alcohol to get drunk. People smoke weed to get high. People do it for the same reasons. High is an illusion and drunk is crazy self confidence, both not good. If one is legal, so should the other =/. Besides, apparently Netherlands don't abuse it as much as us.
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Jan 9 2006, 10:39 PM
Fairness in this situation:  Either let all drugs have their fun ruining people (all legal), or none (all illegal).  Thats the fair way for this.

But...

Rightness in this situation:  Just because some are legal, doesn't mean we have to give people even more options to kill themselves.

It would be nice if they all were illegal, but cigarettes and beer are unfortunately too woven into society.  We shouldn't let the same happen with yet another.

Read that^. Fairness does not equal right. Its stupid to that just because people are allowed to ruin their life one way, we have to enable them to ruin it other ways as well.
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So letting a substances which kills the most teens in America should be legal?
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