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| Patriotism; More good or more bad? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 30 2006, 03:01 AM (961 Views) | |
| Crysta | Jan 30 2006, 03:01 AM Post #1 |
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Discuss. Do you agree or disagree? Why? Do you think this may be applicable in modern times? Do you think William Shakespeare sucks? Do you think he would be a Republican or a Democrat today? Do you think there are dire consequences when one puts complete faith in their nation and it's government? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop? |
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| Cyrus | Jan 30 2006, 09:37 AM Post #2 |
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It's a lot better than drafting an army.
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| Sentenal | Jan 30 2006, 01:54 PM Post #3 |
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Are you impling that loving the country that gives you so many rights and freedoms, and to be willing to protect that country on behalf of your friends and family, is a bad thing? |
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| Guru | Jan 30 2006, 03:18 PM Post #4 |
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OBJECTION
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^agreed. |
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| Reaver | Jan 30 2006, 04:38 PM Post #5 |
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Patriotism defines this country. But once you take it too far, you get things like the Patriot Act and "Freedom" Fries that are just plain stupid. If you're so patriotic that you think everyone who's against you is a wuss or an Anti-American Person, then you've tken it to a point of nationalism. I don't mind Patriotism to rally or just being proud of your country, but I think some statements above prove why it is indeed a double-edged blade. .Toxic: We back out statements here, "Agreed" is not acceptible here.
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| Brazy CK | Jan 30 2006, 05:08 PM Post #6 |
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Have you ever been in a mob or a gang before? A group infuriated at a common enemy or inspired with a common cause can often be a dangerous thing, as they get caught up in whatever cause they're in to stop and think. |
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| Superbus | Jan 30 2006, 06:34 PM Post #7 |
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It's OK to be patriotic. But not to be blind about it. It's like a child: you love your child unconditionally, and want to do everything you can for it. However, when a child misbehaves, you have to discipline it. Much like this country; constructive criticism of our ways is viewed as unpatriotic nowadays, and that's wrong. I fought for America. I love America. But that doesn't put me above wanting to put America over my knee for a good spanking every now and then. |
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| Oujay | Jan 30 2006, 07:23 PM Post #8 |
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I think that at least a tiny bit of patriotism is essential to being a productive member of society, but a little bit of the big P word goes a long way. I wholeheartedly agree that at a point, patriotism becomes blatant hatred for all things un-American, or disagreement with anything American, and we can't have that. |
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| Sentenal | Jan 30 2006, 07:35 PM Post #9 |
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Where was I talking about mob mentality? Patriotism is loving your country, a country that gives you rights and freedoms that few match on the planet. Patriotism is also being willing to protect it, because its the country that gives you your rights and freedoms, and it is your home, the place where you grew up, where your family and friends (probably) reside. Patriotism is not mob mentality.
I wouldn't question your patriotism, as you have fought for your country. There is nothing un-patriotic about debating ideas, or calling into question actions of the government you disagree with. Its wanting whats best for your country, because of what I said in my first paragraph. |
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| Brazy CK | Jan 30 2006, 07:37 PM Post #10 |
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Feeling strongly about anything can go wrong if you don't have enough conciousness to tell when it's going too far. |
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| sephiroth667 | Jan 30 2006, 07:49 PM Post #11 |
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You are fully aware that Sentenal, in the quoted post, pretty much agreed with your idea Patriotism is a good thing until taken to far. That's why I prefer Funky Fries instead of freedom fries. Then again I think the guy at McDonalds thinks I'm retarded. |
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| Brazy CK | Jan 30 2006, 07:58 PM Post #12 |
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I was responding to him saying that Patriotism isn't a mob mentality. =. |
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| Sentenal | Jan 30 2006, 08:11 PM Post #13 |
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Sentenal never said Patroitism was mob mentality. |
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| Crysta | Jan 30 2006, 09:03 PM Post #14 |
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No. When you think criticism and disagreeing with your president is the mark of someone who is unpatriotic and it causes emotional distress on your behalf, then it is. |
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| Wind Sword | Jan 30 2006, 09:33 PM Post #15 |
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The alternative is everyone hating their country. It works decently for North Ireland, but I'd prefer not to break out in civil war every Thursday. Never could get the hang of Thursdays. |
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