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Down with sony up with lik-sang
Topic Started: Oct 24 2006, 02:23 PM (323 Views)
Soja
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Slit1010
Oct 25 2006, 11:35 PM
I don't blame sony, I know they are evil and this is expected of them. What you need to see is that legal and right are not the same. Anything that takes away power from consumers is proabably bad imo.

Not really. By removing easy ways that outsourced consumers can obtain certain products, they create demand by alienating demographics. It's cruel and ebil, but it's business. There's a Japanese proverb that goes: "Business is war." D:
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that doesn't make it right, it just makes it more profitable at the expense of many gamers missing out for little reason.
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Oct 26 2006, 01:44 AM
that doesn't make it right, it just makes it more profitable at the expense of many gamers missing out for little reason.

Who are you to say whats right? Are you, or anyone, entitled to get cheaper games or systems? You are entitled to get their product however they want to get them to you. Business should have the freedom to do what they want with their product, and it is their obligation to do so to get maximum profit.
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Who are you to say whats right? Who are you to say what people are entitled to? If there is a product, and someone wants to buy it, they shouldn't be prejudiced against just because they live in a certain region.
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Actually, $ony, as a collective entity, must be amoral. Otherwise, it cannot turn a profit. Since that is the purpose of a business collective, right or wrong is moot so long as it stays within the laws of its nation.

That said, something that is "right" will benefit all. Something that is "wrong" will either cause harm to or harm to one party while disproportionately benefitting the next. Frankly, I don't think the consumer really has a right to tell $ony what they should have. If $ony wants to keep its customers, sure they listen. But they don't have to.
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Oct 26 2006, 02:02 AM
Who are you to say whats right? Who are you to say what people are entitled to? If there is a product, and someone wants to buy it, they shouldn't be prejudiced against just because they live in a certain region.

So, Sony shouldn't have a right at all what they do with their own product? I mean, after all, we don't live in a world of free markets and capitolism.

I find it sad, very sad, you think people are entitled to buy PS3s. People are entitled to next to nothing.
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I think that if someone in Europe wants to buy a PS3 that's already been bought OFF Sony then Sony has no right to say where it goes 'cause they don't own it anymore.
On the other hand, unbought PS3s, still owned by Sony have the right to be sold ONLY to the market Sony wishes.

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Oct 26 2006, 01:24 PM
I think that if someone in Europe wants to buy a PS3 that's already been bought OFF Sony then Sony has no right to say where it goes 'cause they don't own it anymore.
On the other hand, unbought PS3s, still owned by Sony have the right to be sold ONLY to the market Sony wishes.

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exactly.

Sent, the world may not be of free markets and capitolism, but living in America, I see these as ideals for the way things should be, whether thats how they are in the rest of the world or not.
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Lik-Sang was a Hong Kong company where the Hong Kong free trade laws apply. I'm still not quite sure how Sony won their case but they've absolutely kicked us European gamers in the nuts. They're charging us more than the rest of the world, giving us their systems far later, giving us retarded versions of most games and now they've made it extremely hard to import what the rest of the world is getting - a decent system and decent games.

As an import gamer, this has destroyed any chances of me getting a PS3 within the next two or three years (i.e untill it can be modded to play US and JP games).

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The laws of Hong Kong are clear when it comes to parallel trade. Hong Kong's legislation is based on the fact that allowing parallel and free trade will restore natural competition and benefit consumers with lower prices. Hong Kong, one of the pioneering countries respecting worldwide exhaustion of trademark rights, allows free trade once an item entered the market for sale.
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From what I hear, European versions of games with controversial content are far more butchered than North America's. Like Germany and Resident Evil 4, for example.

I've known that the EU market was hard on gaming, but geez. Well, you could always move to the U.S... :sentenal:
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Oct 28 2006, 07:13 PM
From what I hear, European versions of games with controversial content are far more butchered than North America's. Like Germany and Resident Evil 4, for example.

I've known that the EU market was hard on gaming, but geez. Well, you could always move to the U.S... :sentenal:

the US government would've have omg pwned liksang long ago. >_> That and the fact that the whole point of liksang was to import Japanese products to other parts of the world, so it kind of makes it useless when they're not in Japan.
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Oct 29 2006, 01:18 AM
Sojamania
Oct 28 2006, 07:13 PM
From what I hear, European versions of games with controversial content are far more butchered than North America's. Like Germany and Resident Evil 4, for example.

I've known that the EU market was hard on gaming, but geez. Well, you could always move to the U.S... :sentenal:

the US government would've have omg pwned liksang long ago. >_> That and the fact that the whole point of liksang was to import Japanese products to other parts of the world, so it kind of makes it useless when they're not in Japan.

They're in Hong Kong, China.
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Oct 29 2006, 01:22 AM
ZoSo
Oct 29 2006, 01:18 AM
Sojamania
Oct 28 2006, 07:13 PM
From what I hear, European versions of games with controversial content are far more butchered than North America's. Like Germany and Resident Evil 4, for example.

I've known that the EU market was hard on gaming, but geez. Well, you could always move to the U.S... :sentenal:

the US government would've have omg pwned liksang long ago. >_> That and the fact that the whole point of liksang was to import Japanese products to other parts of the world, so it kind of makes it useless when they're not in Japan.

They're in Hong Kong, China.

*asian, same thing.
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Hong Kong is strangely nexus-like, and even then China makes special concessions for its businesses that gives them what many other countries see as an "unfair advantage" and even charges of "commercial privateering."
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Mirar on Sep 8 2007
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for all you sony haters; sony simply ordered them to stop selling import ps3's to european markets but lik-sang went emo and is blaming their closure on sony much like emos like to cut themselves and much like middle aged white males like to spend their time on an rpg forum and talk about super smash brothers being competitive
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