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Prefered Paladin
Topic Started: Nov 23 2006, 12:15 AM (2,285 Views)
Michael
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Besides, what's the point of all this? You aren't restricted to one Paladin. An A-Supported Kent and Sain beat all.
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Michael says:
-So....when worse comes to worse, how should I write -BlackLion out of the RP?
Psio says:
-eaten by a lion
Psio says:
-whle in a car
Michael says:
-hmmmm...fittting
Psio says:
-and the lion has a ">:3" face
Psio says:
-and says "rawr"
Michael says:
-....so I should sick Kovu after him?
Rock says:
-yes
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Inui
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Nov 25 2006, 07:09 PM
I'd expect the Cavaliers to mostly eliminate Marcus's usefulness well before they promote. Sain, for example, matches Marcus's base Str and Spd by 13/0.

But he still gets crushed in SKL and RES and loses in HP and DEF. >_>;

Marcus stays useful as long as his SPD is enough to make him double attack. Which is up until chapter 22 or so. Longer if he gains extra SPD.
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hmmmm who'd i pick
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Seth
Nov 26 2006, 04:08 AM
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Nov 25 2006, 07:09 PM
I'd expect the Cavaliers to mostly eliminate Marcus's usefulness well before they promote.  Sain, for example, matches Marcus's base Str and Spd by 13/0.

But he still gets crushed in SKL and RES and loses in HP and DEF. >_>;

Lower Than Marcus Skl/Res is hardly a handicap. He's behind by about 2 points in Hp/Def; after 2 more Levels, he's only behind in those by one, and now ahead in both Str and Spd.

At these Levels, no, he's not all-around superior to LvL 1 Marcus, but he's close enough that there shouldn't be many things Marcus can do and he can't. So the orange wonder is no longer completely indispensable, especially with Kent and Lowen out there as well, not to mention the specialist units.

Marcus is still worth bringing along up through Chapter 22, sure, but I would not call him "invaluable" for that entire stretch.
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Nov 25 2006, 10:19 PM
Seth
Nov 26 2006, 04:08 AM
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Nov 25 2006, 07:09 PM
I'd expect the Cavaliers to mostly eliminate Marcus's usefulness well before they promote.  Sain, for example, matches Marcus's base Str and Spd by 13/0.

But he still gets crushed in SKL and RES and loses in HP and DEF. >_>;

Lower Than Marcus Skl/Res is hardly a handicap. He's behind by about 2 points in Hp/Def; after 2 more Levels, he's only behind in those by one, and now ahead in both Str and Spd.

At these Levels, no, he's not all-around superior to LvL 1 Marcus, but he's close enough that there shouldn't be many things Marcus can do and he can't. So the orange wonder is no longer completely indispensable, especially with Kent and Lowen out there as well, not to mention the specialist units.

Marcus is still worth bringing along up through Chapter 22, sure, but I would not call him "invaluable" for that entire stretch.

I'd go so far as to say that it's MUCH harder to S-Rank without touching Marcus than it is to do so without touching Raven.
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When I played for my S ranks, I didn't use Raven.

I only used RNG proof units, Lords, and units with very high starting power such as Guy.
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. . . . good for you . . .
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Michael says:
-So....when worse comes to worse, how should I write -BlackLion out of the RP?
Psio says:
-eaten by a lion
Psio says:
-whle in a car
Michael says:
-hmmmm...fittting
Psio says:
-and the lion has a ">:3" face
Psio says:
-and says "rawr"
Michael says:
-....so I should sick Kovu after him?
Rock says:
-yes
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Nov 26 2006, 02:15 AM
. . . . good for you . . .

Yes.

They were very effective and made things easy.
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Nov 25 2006, 04:09 PM
I'd expect the Cavaliers to mostly eliminate Marcus's usefulness well before they promote. Sain, for example, matches Marcus's base Str and Spd by 13/0.

It's Marcus's superior stats in all areas that make him generally more useful early on. He's even more useful than the lords (yes, including Hector) in my opinion at least until the chapter you get Raven. Even then he's still more useful than most units until the early 20s. Unless you power level a single unit, but that's stupid and kills ratings.

Sidenote: Don't underestimate luck and resistance. Luck, especially, is one of the best stats in the game.

Mind you I'd still vote Kent, Lowen and Sain over Marcus simply because they do match him at an earlier level and are statistically superior later on. Later game is more important than early game, no matter how important early game is.

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Nov 26 2006, 03:34 AM
Mind you I'd still vote Kent, Lowen and Sain over Marcus simply because they do match him at an earlier level and are statistically superior later on. Later game is more important than early game, no matter how important early game is.

Fact of the matter is, though, you don't NEED Sain, Kent OR Lowen in the late game. As long as the team you have is solid, all's well, and those three characters are not necessary for a solid team.

You do, almost necessarily, NEED Marcus for the early game.
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Nov 23 2006, 05:15 AM
I vote for Lowen. His Defense kicks ass and he's pretty good, IMO.

Agreed Lowen seems to gain better stat gains than the others. Sain lacks at weapon level and str and Kent lacks at gaining some speed. Isadora seems to be a fairly good unit as I have officially used her seriously in one playthrough.
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Nov 26 2006, 12:52 PM
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Nov 23 2006, 05:15 AM
I vote for Lowen. His Defense kicks ass and he's pretty good, IMO.

Agreed Lowen seems to gain better stat gains than the others. Sain lacks at weapon level and str and Kent lacks at gaining some speed. Isadora seems to be a fairly good unit as I have officially used her seriously in one playthrough.

Kent is the fastest Paladin. What are you talking about.

Isadora is a piece of trash that has even less total stats than Marcus. She has the lowest averages in the game.

Lowen is only good in HP, LUK, and DEF. The rest of his stats are pretty mediocre.


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No, it isn't.

In the earlygame, your units are weak and the enemies are powerful.

In the lategame, your units are now much stronger than the enemies.

The lategame is always easier due to having leveled up units. The earlygame is harder and more crucial to your rankings because you must work with a weaker team to accomplish the same things, and there are usually more tasks in the earlygame along the lines of saving villages and recruiting.
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Kent seems like a very solild Cavalier. Luke, why don't you like him again?
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Seth
Nov 26 2006, 05:20 AM
When I played for my S ranks, I didn't use Raven.

I only used RNG proof units, Lords, and units with very high starting power such as Guy.

Used Guy for "very high starting power," but not Raven ?_?
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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Nov 26 2006, 01:15 PM
Seth
Nov 26 2006, 05:20 AM
When I played for my S ranks, I didn't use Raven.

I only used RNG proof units, Lords, and units with very high starting power such as Guy.

Used Guy for "very high starting power," but not Raven ?_?

Guy = level 3 Myrmidon when most of your units are that level, and his SKL/SPD makes him very powerful.

Raven = only a level 5 Mercenary when most of your units are nearing level 10 or possibly higher, and even Marcus is likely to have gained a level.

Raven's extremely poor LUK and RES make me bench him. His starting power isn't extremely overwhelming like Guy's was way back when he joined.

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Kent seems like a very solild Cavalier. Luke, why don't you like him again?


Combination of mediocre STR and RES and extremely poor LUK.

And he's boring.
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