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Take to the Skies!; Pegasus Knights or Wyvern Riders?
Topic Started: Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM (2,843 Views)
Psiwri
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Ugh, the one time I want to see some people overreact to a statement of who's better I can't get any.
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Light Yagami
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Go to FEW and say Farina is better than Fiora. You'll get a shit load fo responses ;)
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I'm sorry, but I just can't tolerate low STR and DEF units. Yeah, they can dodge, and double for shit damage. Heath has decent avoid, not to mention that when he doesn't dodge, he doesn't get OMGWTFPWNED, since Heath has such good DEF.

The only advantage they have to Heath is joining time. Obviously, endgame, Heath is better. If you train up Heath, he would replace the pegs in your army for endgame as your flyer.

So, with this in mind, I don't see what the point of using them in the first place is. You don't really need flyers early game. Florina isn't a key figure in your army. She isn't a Hector, Oswin, Lowen, or Guy. Just bench Florina. EXP that would have otherwise gone to Florina, goes to other people. Your Oswins get stronger, which only benifits you. You Guys get stronger, which only benifits you. Your <insert cavalier>s get stronger. And if you are conserned about your EXP rank, this is only one character you are benching, and then when you get Heath, he will help you out in that area.

Ugh, I just hate pegasi.
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Light Yagami
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Florina may not be a Hector, Oswin, Guy or Lowen but does that mean you are saying Heath is?
Heath IS good after hes cought up but that doesn't mean he is a valuable or needed unit.
He joins pretty late at level 7 with crappy Bases (Speed, Skill) equiped with heavy lances which are even more of a bother on Hector's mode (Any difficulty). He doesn't get the most opportune chances of easy level ups either. He joins in a chapter where he can easily be slaughtered and that still olds true in the next 2, 3 chapters. His supports are rather slow so I don't think ayone can rely on those to help him out while hes trying to level up.

What I'm trying to say is that as units, Florina and Fiora are better until Heath Catches up. But even then, Heath's Defence can be shaky, regardless of what averages say. (If I recall, he has 20% growth in Def)

But hey, don't get me wrong I LOVE Heath, but sadly, he isn't that awsome. He ain't no Zeiss or Melidy. :(

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Florina is much better than Fiora.

Heath wins the lategame over the FalcoKnights. Actually, as soon as he can double attack consistently, he wins big time.
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I don't think I'd say big time, since their Atk Support is much better than his. But yeah, he wins at that point.

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So, with this in mind, I don't see what the point of using them in the first place is. You don't really need flyers early game. Florina isn't a key figure in your army. She isn't a Hector, Oswin, Lowen, or Guy. Just bench Florina. EXP that would have otherwise gone to Florina, goes to other people. Your Oswins get stronger, which only benifits you. You Guys get stronger, which only benifits you. Your <insert cavalier>s get stronger. And if you are conserned about your EXP rank, this is only one character you are benching, and then when you get Heath, he will help you out in that area.


Kinda ironic since Florina beats the tar out of Guy.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Jan 14 2007, 02:35 AM
Florina may not be a Hector, Oswin, Guy or Lowen but does that mean you are saying Heath is?
Heath IS good after hes cought up but that doesn't mean he is a valuable or needed unit.
He joins pretty late at level 7 with crappy Bases (Speed, Skill) equiped with heavy lances which are even more of a bother on Hector's mode (Any difficulty). He doesn't get the most opportune chances of easy level ups either. He joins in a chapter where he can easily be slaughtered and that still olds true in the next 2, 3 chapters. His supports are rather slow so I don't think ayone can rely on those to help him out while hes trying to level up.

What I'm trying to say is that as units, Florina and Fiora are better until Heath Catches up. But even then, Heath's Defence can be shaky, regardless of what averages say. (If I recall, he has 20% growth in Def)

But hey, don't get me wrong I LOVE Heath, but sadly, he isn't that awsome. He ain't no Zeiss or Melidy. :(

His growth in DEF is 30%. :hmm:
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Inui
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Florina beats Guy?

NM, yes

HM, fuck no.
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HM boosts aren't nearly big enough in this game to completely reverse a comparison.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Inui
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Florina's CON is too bad. Guy's got the same avoidance with better offense.
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Before promotion Guy's Str is only about 1 higher even w/ HHM boost, after promotion their Str is about the same, Florina has better weapons and much better offense support vs Guy's 15 Crit after promotion. I'd say Florina wins that.

Florina's Con is not a big deal, Slim Lance only has 1 less Mt than Iron Sword, and if Guy tries to go up to Steel Sword, his weapon has 1 more Mt than Iron Lance, but Guy's losing 1 more AS. And then Florina has the Javelin, and after promotion she gets Swords too.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Psiwri
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Where's my superior CON DEF and RES for Fiora? :(
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Inui
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Fiora's joining time is abysmal. It's basically the same as Heath's in terms of levels/hard enemies for her to fight, but without the lategame benefits Heath has.
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No, Fiora joins at the same level as Heath 5 or so chapters earlier. Fiora's better off in that respect.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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Inui
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Jan 14 2007, 03:19 AM
No, Fiora joins at the same level as Heath 5 or so chapters earlier.  Fiora's better off in that respect.

HM boosts even it out.

Look at a HM boosted Heath and a base Fiora...

Then laugh.
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