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Take to the Skies!; Pegasus Knights or Wyvern Riders?
Topic Started: Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM (2,842 Views)
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that moron that forgot this is s11

Laugh at the fact that she can double enemy Mages and gain EXP and he can't double *anything* beyond the standard Knights, Soldiers, and Archers?

Been there, done that.

Ah, and five chapters equates to roughly five to six levels the enemies get. Six levels is worse to face than HHM bonuses.
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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7/0 Fiora
21 Hp
8 Str
11 Skl
13 Spd
6 Luck
6 Def
7 Res
5 Con

7/0 Heath
32 Hp
13.25 Str
9.75 Skl
8.5 Spd
7 Luck
11.25 Def
1.75 Res
9 Con

:richie:

I agree that Heath's bases are better, but I don't agree that his joining situation is better. HHM makes Heath's stats better, but he also becomes more difficult to train.

Both of these join with Axereaver, but Fiora's facing Pirates with normal Axes, while Heath's looking at Fighters w/ Swordreavers, backed up by Wyverns, Nomads, Mages, Monks and Ballistae(all things he hates). The next chapter after Fiora joins is full of mages that she can easily handle, while HHM Living Legend and Genesis are nightmares for Heath.
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that moron that forgot this is s11

Haha, even with HHM bonuses Fiora does more per hit to magic users and anything she can double and he can't. And there's a whole boatload of magic users in Imprisoner of Magic, for one, and there's also plenty of Boltings and various siege spells to deal with in Genesis.
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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Wait, how is she doing more per hit to Mages? Her Str is still less than Heath's. Maybe you mean she takes less?

And yeah, Heath is dead weight in HHM Genesis. Underlevelled wyvern facing promoted magic enemies = fail.
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Ack, not per hit. Overall. 8x2 > 13.25
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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rofl Chris
 
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Mario123v2
Jan 14 2007, 12:19 PM
Ack, not per hit. Overall. 8x2 > 13.25

And the stronger the weapon they both use the damage advantage is only magnified. (provided it doesn't swamp Fiora's speed lead <<)
However that would mean that Heath would require a stronger, more expensive weapon with less uses than Fiora for the same damage output in those situations.
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On the converse, there's no weapon either can equip where Heath's Str > Fiora's Spd; even with Slim Lances, 12x2 > 17.25.
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
God of Thunder - KISS

rofl Chris
 
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Jan 14 2007, 07:46 AM
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Jan 14 2007, 02:35 AM
Florina may not be a Hector, Oswin, Guy or Lowen but does that mean you are saying Heath is?
Heath IS good after hes cought up but that doesn't mean he is a valuable or needed unit.
He joins pretty late at level 7 with crappy Bases (Speed, Skill) equiped with heavy lances which are even more of a bother on Hector's mode (Any difficulty). He doesn't get the most opportune chances of easy level ups either. He joins in a chapter where he can easily be slaughtered and that still olds true in the next 2, 3 chapters. His supports are rather slow so I don't think ayone can rely on those to help him out while hes trying to level up.

What I'm trying to say is that as units, Florina and Fiora are better until Heath Catches up. But even then, Heath's Defence can be shaky, regardless of what averages say. (If I recall, he has 20% growth in Def)

But hey, don't get me wrong I LOVE Heath, but sadly, he isn't that awsome. He ain't no Zeiss or Melidy. :(

His growth in DEF is 30%. :hmm:

Gah Sorry, that was Cormag .__.
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Yup, even Tethys has a higher growth in Def then Cormag >_>

Not that her Def will ever beat his, but it was funny anyways.
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LAWL @ Saleh Def growth = Eirika Def growth > Moulder Def growth = Kyle Def growth = Cormag Def growth > Vanessa's Def growth.

All the >s are by 5% too. :XD:
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
God of Thunder - KISS

rofl Chris
 
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XD Silly Wyverns! Low Def Growths are for Peg Knights!
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Farina is an absolutely AMAZING unit. Though, HHM Heath and Vaida do take the cake for me. They both get +stats where none of the peggies do :(. The peggies can usually hold for themselves, so can the Wyverns, but when coming down to statistics, Heath, Vaida, and Farina are usually the ONLY fliers I use in HHM.
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I still don't get why Farina isn't like the Yuuno of FE6 or Syrene of FE8.
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I find all flyers to be useful, although I use Florina the most. I just find her to be a very useful unit, especially since she can use swords as a Falcoknight. I would probably use Fiora as well, but I just can't get into her. as for Heath, he's also a great character, but not as good as Florina. This is just me though. I do find him and pretty much any unit easy to train if you use Ninis's Grace on them before going into the arena, then rescuing them afterwards and replacing them in from of Ninian in the next round. It's quite possibly the best way to train units, in my opinion.
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It is, however in all things this forum puts rank, and thus turns used, into consideration, which pretty much means no arena.
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