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Take to the Skies!; Pegasus Knights or Wyvern Riders?
Topic Started: Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM (2,851 Views)
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that moron that forgot this is s11

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All-in-all, saying that Heath comes in too late to be useful is like saying Nino comes in too late to be useful.

Is there a problem with that? Nino does come in too late to be useful.

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Sometimes though, I don't feel like raising the Peg. Knights because of all the babysitting they need, so I just stick with Heath.

Wow, that's ironic.

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Nino is a good example, I got her from level 5 to level 18 in that water temple, while leveling up all of my other units perfectly well. If I recall correctly, I got Florina from a 20/7 Falcoknight to a 20/10 Falco at the same time. Plus, Nino is worth the trouble to raise. Nino as a 20/1 and above Sage = Win.

Hmm...short list of why she's not useful:

1) Joins extremely late
2) Doesn't join ready to go (something neccessary when you join that late)
3) Too much effort for too little gain

Oh, and if you ask me, Florina is the best, narrowly beating Fiora. Heath comes next, then Vaida, then Farina. That's ranked, BTW, and Heath and Vaida are both interchangeable as far as I'm concerned.
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Jan 6 2007, 12:05 AM
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Jan 5 2007, 03:18 PM
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Jan 5 2007, 03:27 PM
Peg Knights and Falcoknights. They don't need to be babied too much as long as you use them correctly. And yeah, saying that Heath is useless because he comes late in the game is false.

Nino is a good example, I got her from level 5 to level 18 in that water temple, while leveling up all of my other units perfectly well. If I recall correctly, I got Florina from a 20/7 Falcoknight to a 20/10 Falco at the same time. Plus, Nino is worth the trouble to raise. Nino as a 20/1 and above Sage = Win.

ROFLMAO

Nino is like...what, 40th best character on the tier list?

Farina for me when unranked, Vaida when ranked.

D= I know, but for some reason I still find her to be stronger than Pent for me (either that or I'm just lucky. >_>).

No, you weren't lucky. Nino is bound to be the Strongest in terms of Stats BUT she joins so late and at such a low level she's usless.

Also Her Con is crap. The better tomes will weigh her down so she loses out on what she depends on: Speed, since her HP and Def suck.
She won't be dodging like a goddes until she maxes Speed and has terribly high luck.

Also, I really do hate this argument but it's true. She's an EXP whore. Taking all the EXP that can be use don your other units for a Sage that can't even hold a decent tome without AS lose.

Lets not forget how useless she is and what Vageta pointed out ;)

I think any reasonable player would rather spend all that EXP on other units.

But hey, if you're playing in a "poops&giggles" sorta way then go for it.
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Even after she catches up Nino has trouble beating a Supported Erk or Pent. Considering how badly they crush her in initial utility, nothing more needs to be said.
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I <3 Farina

Wyverns sorta suck in this game, IMO.
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Jan 6 2007, 03:13 AM
Even after she catches up Nino has trouble beating a Supported Erk or Pent. Considering how badly they crush her in initial utility, nothing more needs to be said.

X__X I forgot about Supports.
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There are two flying units in this game that I like, and they are Farina and Vaida. Farina has nice bases and growths, and she actually has decent defense AND resistance. Her only problem is the amount of money it requires to recruit her, which can hurt your ranks.

Vaida is amazing. You can't go wrong with her. I've seen people claim that Vaida sucks and is one of the worst pre-promoted characters in the game, but I just don't see it. Sure, her base speed is crap and her resistance sucks, but she has a reasonably good 40% speed growth and it isn't as though her class is known for having high resistance. On average, Vaida is nearly even with Heath in strength and skill, and she actually beats him out in defense and--oddly enough--constitution. Her lead in con is a double-edged sword, though....

The other three aren't bad, but I just don't particularly care for them. Florina and Fiora have never been consistantly good in my experiences. Heath is powerful, but I also don't think he quite lives up to the hype. He starts out at level 7 with a base speed of 7.... For the time he joins, that isn't very impressive at all. Really, if I want a hard-hitter with lots of mobility, I'll just stick with Sain, thanks. The same applies if I want a mobile tank, just replace Sain with Lowen and later on Vaida.

EDIT: On second thought, I take back my point about Vaida's lead in con. It hurts more than it helps. ~_~ Still, it's kind of unusual to see a female unit beat a male in con. XD
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Jan 5 2007, 09:31 PM
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Jan 6 2007, 03:13 AM
Even after she catches up Nino has trouble beating a Supported Erk or Pent.  Considering how badly they crush her in initial utility, nothing more needs to be said.

X__X I forgot about Supports.

Ehhhhh... You win. XD

But I still find her highly useful for Light. And she's not too much of an EXP Whore for me. I still have everyone I need for Light at level 20/17+ by then. Mostly 18's or 19's, some 20/20's. I don't mind the trouble. Anyway, back on topic.

Vaida phails at life. >=[ I use all three Peg Knights on Hector Story, but on Eliwood's, I usually just bother with one of them. I <3 the three sisters together. >.>
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Jan 5 2007, 11:06 PM
There are two flying units in this game that I like, and they are Farina and Vaida. Farina has nice bases and growths, and she actually has decent defense AND resistance. Her only problem is the amount of money it requires to recruit her, which can hurt your ranks.

Vaida is amazing. You can't go wrong with her. I've seen people claim that Vaida sucks and is one of the worst pre-promoted characters in the game, but I just don't see it. Sure, her base speed is crap and her resistance sucks, but she has a reasonably good 40% speed growth and it isn't as though her class is known for having high resistance. On average, Vaida is nearly even with Heath in strength and skill, and she actually beats him out in defense and--oddly enough--constitution. Her lead in con is a double-edged sword, though....

The other three aren't bad, but I just don't particularly care for them. Florina and Fiora have never been consistantly good in my experiences. Heath is powerful, but I also don't think he quite lives up to the hype. He starts out at level 7 with a base speed of 7.... For the time he joins, that isn't very impressive at all. Really, if I want a hard-hitter with lots of mobility, I'll just stick with Sain, thanks. The same applies if I want a mobile tank, just replace Sain with Lowen and later on Vaida.

EDIT: On second thought, I take back my point about Vaida's lead in con. It hurts more than it helps. ~_~ Still, it's kind of unusual to see a female unit beat a male in con. XD

I agree completely, but since rescuing is worthless in the lategame, Vaida's CON is great. She can bust out good weapons without hurting her already mediocre SPD.

In HM, her DEF is ridiculous.
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Jan 6 2007, 05:33 AM
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Jan 5 2007, 09:31 PM
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Jan 6 2007, 03:13 AM
Even after she catches up Nino has trouble beating a Supported Erk or Pent.  Considering how badly they crush her in initial utility, nothing more needs to be said.

X__X I forgot about Supports.

Ehhhhh... You win. XD

But I still find her highly useful for Light. And she's not too much of an EXP Whore for me. I still have everyone I need for Light at level 20/17+ by then. Mostly 18's or 19's, some 20/20's. I don't mind the trouble. Anyway, back on topic.

Vaida phails at life. >=[ I use all three Peg Knights on Hector Story, but on Eliwood's, I usually just bother with one of them. I <3 the three sisters together. >.>

( But Nino is still as useful as that Earth Seal Nils gives you in VoD)


Vaida doesn't fail. Her Defense is awsome and her Str is usually on par with Heath. She may have crappy Speed but it grows nicely with the 40% growth.

I mean compared to Heath, yeah she isn't so Godly but she isn't crappy at all.
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Jan 6 2007, 12:14 AM
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Jan 5 2007, 09:31 PM
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Jan 6 2007, 03:13 AM
Even after she catches up Nino has trouble beating a Supported Erk or Pent.  Considering how badly they crush her in initial utility, nothing more needs to be said.

X__X I forgot about Supports.

Ehhhhh... You win. XD

But I still find her highly useful for Light. And she's not too much of an EXP Whore for me. I still have everyone I need for Light at level 20/17+ by then. Mostly 18's or 19's, some 20/20's. I don't mind the trouble. Anyway, back on topic.

Vaida phails at life. >=[ I use all three Peg Knights on Hector Story, but on Eliwood's, I usually just bother with one of them. I <3 the three sisters together. >.>

( But Nino is still as useful as that Earth Seal Nils gives you in VoD)


Vaida doesn't fail. Her Defense is awsome and her Str is usually on par with Heath. She may have crappy Speed but it grows nicely with the 40% growth.

I mean compared to Heath, yeah she isn't so Godly but she isn't crappy at all.

(Mehhhh... Each to his own stubbornness.)

Well, even so. Vaida, with me at least, has horrible luck. Not statistically speaking, but in VoD, she always gets criticaled to death for me. Which is why I stopped using her, and I refused to use her.
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Vaida takes physical damage?
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Is that possible?
By any chance, do you play HHM, where her Def is OMG???

Also, there are only a few units that can actually Critical.
(The SMs and a Druid with Luna. )
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And since the swordmasters can't come near damaging her, I fail to see a problem.
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Doesn't Vaida's base Defence beat Heath's 20/20 average? D:

Anyway, my favourite fliers in this game are Farina and Vaida. I'm not a fan of Heath much, Fiora isn't . . . anything special and I hate Florina beyond reason.
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