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Take to the Skies!; Pegasus Knights or Wyvern Riders?
Topic Started: Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM (2,832 Views)
C475_1337
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Rubbish. There are 7 Cavaliers up there, and Cormag can’t one-round them, so he has to take attacks from each of them at least twice. The ones with Iron Lances do 4-5 Dmg, so each one of those is 9.5 Dmg to him, and there are 4 of them. Cormag would die to those 4 alone, not even counting the others that are there, or the fact that two of those four have Javelins as well.
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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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that moron that forgot this is s11

Even if he *could* survive their attacks singlehandedly, he can't kill them in time before the mission ends.
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
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>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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rofl Chris
 
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There is a light that never goes out...

He has a freaking Killer Lance, he is gonna be one rounding some of them. I don't think anyone but like... Seth will be able to solo anything at that point, so I don't think that is a point in either's favor. I do know Tana isn't a dodge tank at the point, and is worse off defensively, and would fair worse against them.
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Jan 22 2007, 01:53 PM
He has a freaking Killer Lance, he is gonna be one rounding some of them. I don't think anyone but like... Seth will be able to solo anything at that point, so I don't think that is a point in either's favor. I do know Tana isn't a dodge tank at the point, and is worse off defensively, and would fair worse against them.

Some, maybe, and he could be capable of killing them all by the chapter's end assuming quite a bit of luck with the Killer Lance and infinite durability (he can't DA, so he either crits or they live to attack another day). That's the problem, though: he doesn't have infinite durability and he needs to critical a good four or five times to reliably kill all the eemies there. Oh, and if he fails to critical one, it gets nearly fully healed by the nearby Troubadour.

The bold is either contradicting to what was addressed or outright irrelevant; it was originally claimed that Cormag could finish off that entire group by himself, so to say no one but Seth can do so fails to change the fact that Cormag can't. Stating Tana can't kill the group is irrelevant because the statement made was that Cormag could kill the group.

As for units who can? Killer Lance Gilliam has a better offense due to better Str for higher Atk and Skl for slightly higher Crit. Gilliam can also use the Silver Lance or (maybe, forget if it's available yet) the Horseslayer to wound on the Player Phase and kill on the Enemy Phase (or vice-versa). Defensively, Gilliam's durability may or may not be infinite, but it's a heck of a lot better than Cormag's thanks to Gilliam's higher HP, Def, and Avd from terrain bonus. In addition, Ephraim with the Reginleif or a Killer/Silver Lance can easily wipe the floor with the Cavaliers; his base Avoid at 4/0 is higher than Cormag's and his overall *base* durability and offense are better (Forest bonus give him an extremely large Avoid lead that seals the defensive deal and the WTA helps him more with RN conversions since his base Avd is so much better; offensively, 30/33 Mt or 14/15 Mt plus 1 AS > 10/11 Mt). Oh, and that's all at Ephy's base level, he blows Cormag out of the water against them when properly levelled.

The paragraph above this statement is irrelevant to the discussion, just something to throw out there that Seth is indeed *not* the only one who can do that at this point.
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Fraulein Holls
Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
Some Kind Of Monster - Metallica

>> Metallica wub all of a sudden

Say, I know a member currently going by Ron DeLite who also loves Metallica, you two should totally hook up.
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rofl Chris
 
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someone
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What Simon said. And keeping that Killer Lance on Cormag = lame. Other units who can double more make better use of its higher Mt and Crit.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

---

SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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There is a light that never goes out...

It wasn't me who claimed that he could take out that group.

BTW, after seeing Altenna in FE4, I can safely say Wyverns>Pegs in that game too.
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I don't feel like reading through those massive pieces of text that all say the same thing. I know I always let Cormag rape those cavaliers on top, and he does so easily. Let him stay there, position him so that only one cavalier can attack him. Heal in your team. He can take 3 hits, so if he manages to take out 2 with a critical and simply hurt the third one, no new enemy can attack him so he won't die.
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Let him stay there, position him so that only one cavalier can attack him. Heal in your team.


If you're healing Cormag, he's not exactly killing the enemies by himself.

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I don't feel like reading through those massive pieces of text that all say the same thing. I know I always let Cormag rape those cavaliers on top, and he does so easily.


Stop playing easy mode.
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

---

SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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As much as I like Cormag, WJC is right >_>

He cant take those Cavs all; by himself.
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Jan 23 2007, 03:08 PM
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Let him stay there, position him so that only one cavalier can attack him. Heal in your team.


If you're healing Cormag, he's not exactly killing the enemies by himself.

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I don't feel like reading through those massive pieces of text that all say the same thing. I know I always let Cormag rape those cavaliers on top, and he does so easily.


Stop playing easy mode.

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If you're healing Cormag, he's not exactly killing the enemies by himself.


I mistyped, I mean: Let him heal himself on his turn. (He DOES come with a vulnerary, right?

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Stop playing easy mode.


Stop insinuating that I'm a noob. You thinking that I'm playing FE8 Easy/Normal mode is very, VERY insulting. :pacman:
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I fail to see why playing FE 8 Normal is an insult either way >_>

When I play FE8, I play Normal mode.
I play it cuz I want to plain bash stuff into tiny bits.
If I want a challenge, I'll play HHM, or even FE5, as I'm doing ATM.
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Jordan says:
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Weird as fuck, isnt he?
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It is insulting to me :pacman:
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True enough >_>

DUTCH FURY!

Rawr! :pacman:
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Jordan says:
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There is a light that never goes out...

Some try to argue Fee>Altenna!
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I mistyped, I mean: Let him heal himself on his turn. (He DOES come with a vulnerary, right?


Nope.

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Stop insinuating that I'm a noob. You thinking that I'm playing FE8 Easy/Normal mode is very, VERY insulting.


No one said anyone is a "noob." Now, are you not playing easy or normal mode?

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Some try to argue Fee>Altenna!


That's where it stops :pacman:
Reikken: I'm halfway through reading it, but it's so bad; I can't finish.

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Inui: You say Ilia holds more weight, but I don't, since Shin >>> Pegs and Sacae is more fun due to enemies that aren't fail and not having to move through forests all day.

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SACAE. It's more fun than Ilia.
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