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Take to the Skies!; Pegasus Knights or Wyvern Riders?
Topic Started: Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM (2,848 Views)
Hatake Asuka
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True, although I still don't count EM when discussing. HNM and HHM are IMO the only real modes. HNM is easy enough if that's what you're going for, and you're missing out on a lot when you do EM. D:
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Jan 7 2007, 12:27 AM
True, although I still don't count EM when discussing. HNM and HHM are IMO the only real modes. HNM is easy enough if that's what you're going for, and you're missing out on a lot when you do EM. D:

Well, you miss out on a Energy Ring by doing Hector mode.

Also, since both modes are sooner or later forced (well, Hector's isn't, but you'd be a fool not to try it) they should play equal roles, IMO. Maybe HHM matters more, but it shouldn't make EHM nonexistant.

Outside of the official debates, that is.
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Both apply, though.

EDIT: In reference to both EM v HM and Farina being there half the time v half the game.
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Jan 5 2007, 07:56 PM
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Sometimes though, I don't feel like raising the Peg. Knights because of all the babysitting they need, so I just stick with Heath.

Wow, that's ironic.

Heath is by far easier to raise than the 3 Peg. Knights. And he turns out better, too.

Sorry, I know this is a little late but...


How the hell is Heath easier to raise than the other Pegs?!

Heat joins at level 7 with some crappy base speed and skill so he will either

a: miss
b: Hit only once.

The enemies in Kingship's Bond aren't push overs, either. Well compared to him atleast.
Also in the Next Chapter, a lot of the units happen to be magic users and archers and his Res Sucks and his Dodge is crap so <.<

The peg knights are with you for most of the game. Farina joins later but can esily kill all those monks and that bishop with her good Res.

Don't get me wrong, I love heath. I usually have him promoted (20/2) by Crazed Beast, but he is not easier to train than the Peg Knights.
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Peg Knights and Falcoknights. They don't need to be babied too much as long as you use them correctly. And yeah, saying that Heath is useless because he comes late in the game is false.

Nino is a good example, I got her from level 5 to level 18 in that water temple, while leveling up all of my other units perfectly well. If I recall correctly, I got Florina from a 20/7 Falcoknight to a 20/10 Falco at the same time. Plus, Nino is worth the trouble to raise. Nino as a 20/1 and above Sage = Win.


Nino may come very very late but she does cap at nearly every stats after getting to like 20/15. She just performs really awesome with even the heaviest Anima tomes such as Flimbvtr and Excalibur.

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Hmm...short list of why she's not useful:

1) Joins extremely late
2) Doesn't join ready to go (something neccessary when you join that late)
3) Too much effort for too little gain

Oh, and if you ask me, Florina is the best, narrowly beating Fiora. Heath comes next, then Vaida, then Farina. That's ranked, BTW, and Heath and Vaida are both interchangeable as far as I'm concerned.


Nino pwns every other mage all over the place. But despite the fact that it does take alot of EXP to raise her that could be fed to the other characters. It's just to say that it's a risky choice on wether you want to raise her or not. If you have already have trained Erk then otherwise I would go with him rather than Nino as not only that he comes much much earlier and can gain the extra levels needed since that he can be used in Lyn's story.

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Agreed on the whole, unless you were saying Florina's the hardest to raise of all the fliers, in which case Florina's easier to raise than Heath.

If you're talkin about Florina being the hardest-to-raise pegasi, I'm in complete agreeance.


Florina is harder to raise without the Angel Clothes yes. But that is what the Angel Clothes are generally for in Lyn's Mode since it will be gone after chapter 10.. Lyn or Florina WILL need it than anyone else in that mode. And Matthew doesn't need it because the speed that he will gain most than anyone else in that mode will save him in the battles.

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No, she's definitely underlevelled. That's an *advantage* to her you're leaving out; not only can she help the Exp rating, but she has the stats of a 15/0 unit without being at 15/0. The Exp rating argument, though, is pretty moot because of how much she hurts the Funds rating in contrast.

She's still not very good in my eyes, though, not only because of how much she hurts Funds, but also because of how she hurts Funds. She docks money directly from your cash flow, so you have to sell things to recruit her if you've been stingy with items. At least with, say, Dart, I don't have to sell items to promote him; I wouldn't mind the 25kG from the Ocean Seal, but unlike with Farina, I'm not dircetly losing money by promoting him.

I hope I'm making sense with this. ;>_>


Your quite right she WILL hurt your funds rating and that what Light Yagami says about training her with the Monks would be the most efficiant way to do so. Sell the Ocean Seal because you can buy them in the chapter that has Limstella in it as the boss. That amount of money can be used to recruit Farina and that Dart can wait on his promotion a little later. But be sure to brinng him in the chapter that has Limstella in it however.
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Nino owning all mages all over the place? >_>

??/10 Pent

35 Hp
19.2 Mag
21.8 Skl
18.6 Spd
12.2 Def
17.4 Res
15.6 Luck

20/5 Nino
32.5 Hp
17.5 Mag
19.4 Skl
21.7 Spd
9.8 Def
19.5 Res
18.6 Luck

Pent will have a level lead, unless you extremely baby Nino, and I fail to see why Nino wins 'all over the place'.

Pent's more durable, and he can use more then a Fire without AS loss to enlarge his Atk lead.
Nino is a bit dodgier, but then again, if she wants to compete with Pent's Atk, shell lose that dodge, since anything but Fire weighs her down, and Pent can use Elfire with two AS loss, and Thunder without any.
Wins all over the place how? >_>
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SirHakado
Jan 12 2007, 04:12 PM
Nino owning all mages all over the place? >_>

??/10 Pent

35 Hp
19.2 Mag
21.8 Skl
18.6 Spd
12.2 Def
17.4 Res
15.6 Luck

20/5 Nino
32.5 Hp
17.5 Mag
19.4 Skl
21.7 Spd
9.8 Def
19.5 Res
18.6 Luck

Pent will have a level lead, unless you extremely baby Nino, and I fail to see why Nino wins 'all over the place'.

Pent's more durable, and he can use more then a Fire without AS loss to enlarge his Atk lead.
Nino is a bit dodgier, but then again, if she wants to compete with Pent's Atk, shell lose that dodge, since anything but Fire weighs her down, and Pent can use Elfire with one AS loss, and Thunder without any.
Wins all over the place how? >_>

Well gee that's funny. :rolleyes: She never seemed to attack only once with any tome. And besides that she can be fed a Body Ring if you have it. ^_^

But let me list the locations of the Body Rings to make this easier on you. ^_^

Other

1. From the Mario Kart Double Dash bonus disk link up. This is generally on how you can get the Silver Card in the NM and that to get the Emblem weapons even though they may sound unique but they have no power over any better than the Iron Weapons. :(

EM

1. Chapter 22. Excavate it in the Sands southwest of Pent's starting location.

2. Chapter 29 In the southwest treasure.

HM

1. Chapter 23. Excavate it in the sands southwest of Pent.

2. Chapter 31 Treasure southwest.

Anyways I cannot really comment on Pent since that I have never used him. Tell me something is he really ALL that unique. ;)



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Ah, but if Nino gets a stat-booster, then Pent gets one too, else you're just skewing the odds.
Also, unique? He's the best Sage, so naturally I'm comparing him to Nino, if youre saying she owns all mages.
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Ahh yes but you did not answer on whether he is good or not. Is his stat growths really something to write home abour? :huh:
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SirHakado
Jan 12 2007, 04:33 PM
Ah, but if Nino gets a stat-booster, then Pent gets one too, else you're just skewing the odds.
Also, unique? He's the best Sage, so naturally I'm comparing him to Nino, if youre saying she owns all mages.

I'd beg to differ. Also, Pents stat growths arent that awesome, but combined with his bases, he's indeed awesome.

Also, if we wish to continue this, I say we make it an official debate.
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I prefer Pegasus Knights.
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Inui
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Someone wants to debate Pent vs <insert magic user>?

I'll do it if I'm Pent. :)

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Debate Ayanami with NIno XD
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Hey now, I called that one first >_>

If she wants to defend Nino, I get Pent.

I could use the practice.
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Pent vs Nino is total rape, not practice.
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